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Old 07-07-2012, 11:02 PM   #1
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Default proclaiming 'YA RASOOLALLAH' is permissible!!!!
Please provide evidence for the permissibility of proclaiming Ya Rasoolallah.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:06 PM   #2
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Salam `Aleykum,

Ya Rassul-Allah means: "O Prophet of Allah".

I don't see any problem in this, do you?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:08 PM   #3
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No. However, the Wahhabis consider proclaiming ya rasoolallah as sin. So if anyone could provide evidence of permissibility?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:08 PM   #4
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Salam `Aleykum,

Ya Rassul-Allah means: "O Prophet of Allah".

I don't see any problem in this, do you?


nope.. me neither..

so if all agree, can we close the thread
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:09 PM   #5
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No. However, the Wahhabis consider proclaiming ya rasoolallah as sin. So if anyone could provide evidence of permissibility?


please substantiate that they consider it as such.

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Old 07-07-2012, 11:16 PM   #6
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please substantiate that they consider it as such.

That wasnt by question.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:22 PM   #7
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please substantiate that they consider it as such.

Well they do consider it impermissible if one does it while making dua seeking to use him as a waseela for the acceptance of their dua.

So I think you should ask the OP to which Salafi claim he is responding by saying that saying "Ya Rasulullah" is permissible as even the Salafis (at least if Islam Q&A is an accurate gauge of what most Salafis believe) says that it is permissible to do so unless one intends to call upon him or unless one believes that even from afar he hears your statement. See post #7 of this thread: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...mad-%28pbuh%29 [sorry that I wasn't able to find the original statement from the website itself]
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:28 PM   #8
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Please go search the forum for it.

We don't need to have a new thread of arguments.

Searching on the forum isn't a difficult task.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:28 PM   #9
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I have found on other websites that proclaiming Ya Rasoolullah is permissible and so is Tawassul
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:33 PM   #10
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this should help in searching the forum:

site:sunniforum.com 'ya'

site:sunniforum.com 'calling on other than Allah'

site:sunniforum.com 'istigatha'

you can make up your own combinations.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:38 PM   #11
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this should help in searching the forum:

site:sunniforum.com 'ya'

site:sunniforum.com 'calling on other than Allah'

site:sunniforum.com 'istigatha'

you can make up your own combinations.
Please go away!
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:41 PM   #12
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Imam Zain al-‘Abideen Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho (son of Imam Husain Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho) called out thus when proceeding towards Yazeed:

یارحمة للعلمين ادرک لذين العابدين
محبوس ايدی الظلمين في موكب المزدهم
O the Mercy of the worlds! come to the help of Zainul Abidin,
He is in the clutches of the tyrrants in the crowds of the people.
Source? What have the Ulema said regarding the authenticity of the narration?
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:42 PM   #13
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Well they do consider it impermissible if one does it while making dua seeking to use him as a waseela for the acceptance of their dua.

So I think you should ask the OP to which Salafi claim he is responding by saying that saying "Ya Rasulullah" is permissible as even the Salafis (at least if Islam Q&A is an accurate gauge of what most Salafis believe) says that it is permissible to do so unless one intends to call upon him or unless one believes that even from afar he hears your statement. See post #7 of this thread: http://www.ummah.com/forum/showthrea...mad-%28pbuh%29 [sorry that I wasn't able to find the original statement from the website itself]
akhi,

you realize that my question was more of an ilzami one. OP's claim is mutlaq, while your clarification is muttasaf bil hai'yyah.

And Br. JaaAlHaqq.. make sure you do not search the SF as br. Imam Ghazali has asked you. Who knows you might find 10s of such threads..

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Old 07-07-2012, 11:44 PM   #14
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Please go away!
hmmm so you aren't really looking for answers but have come here , like your predecessors to teach us and wage fitnah of argumentations and debates.
i repeat: this has been discussed before. if you have anything new kindly go to the relevant thread where it was discussed and add your view there.
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:46 PM   #15
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Source? What have the Ulema said regarding the authenticity of the narration?
Sirr al-Shahadatayn – Page 72]
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:47 PM   #16
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http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...on-istighathah

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l-Sunnah/page5
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:50 PM   #17
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حديث ابن عمر أنه خَدِرَت رِجْله، فقيل له: ما لِرِجْلِك؟ قال: اجتمعَ عَصَبُها. قيل له: اذْكُر أحَبَّ النَّاسِ إليك قال: يا محمدُ، فَبَسَطَها
Sayyiduna ‘Abdullah ibn 'Umar Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho once suffered from a cramp. Someone advised him to remember the person whom he loved the most. He proclaimed loudly, “Ya Muhammada!” He was immediately relieved. [al Adāb al Muf'rad, Page 250, Hadith 964]


OK everything is clear now

Imam Zain al-‘Abideen Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho (son of Imam Husain Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho) called out thus when proceeding towards Yazeed:

یارحمة للعلمين ادرک لذين العابدين
محبوس ايدی الظلمين في موكب المزدهم
O the Mercy of the worlds! come to the help of Zainul Abidin,
He is in the clutches of the tyrrants in the crowds of the people.

After the demise of Sayyiduna ‘Umar al-Faruq Radi ALLAHu Ta'ala Anho in 18 AH, there was a severe drought due to which Sayyiduna Bilal Ibn al Harith proclaimed, “Ya Muhammadah”. [al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya, Vol 7, Page 91]
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:51 PM   #18
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nope.. me neither..

so if all agree, can we close the thread
Ya Akhi Close it
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Old 07-07-2012, 11:54 PM   #19
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Its a shame when someone opens a thread with ulterior motives and then copies and paste from a barelwi website. SubhanAllah.. What has the haqq come down to.

Thread closed.

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Old 01-16-2018, 06:28 PM   #20
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When I came across these types of forum post which are very sensitive in nature and can easily affect many people. It is always good to see that there are no religious topics are posted. If you see vikings essay blog in that the moderator does not allow any this kind of posts.
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