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Old 01-14-2012, 06:05 PM   #21
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I'm surprised harun Yahya didn't just come out & say the mehdi will speak Turkish?
He did claim to be the mehdi at one stage.
One thing I can't understand is how do you fully understand Islam without an excellent understanding of Arabic?
I have been told many deviant things from Turkish people like:
- the Quran in Turkish is the same as Quran in Arabic
- the best Arabic writing/calligraphy/poems etc comes from turkey
- upon questioning in the grave when asked what is your religion alot of Turks will reply Turkish Muslim, not just Muslim?
- RIBA is halal because an sheikh in turkey said so?
- a close Turkish freinds family freind cried when she found out profit Mohamad (saws) was Arab and not Turkish.... Lol
I could post more but don't want to offend anyone..
P.S my wife is Turkish, so no I don't have a racist issue with Turks but have found alot are very racist towards other cultures especially Arabs.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:56 PM   #22
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I'm surprised harun Yahya didn't just come out & say the mehdi will speak Turkish?
He did claim to be the mehdi at one stage.
One thing I can't understand is how do you fully understand Islam without an excellent understanding of Arabic?
I have been told many deviant things from Turkish people like:
- the Quran in Turkish is the same as Quran in Arabic
- the best Arabic writing/calligraphy/poems etc comes from turkey
- upon questioning in the grave when asked what is your religion alot of Turks will reply Turkish Muslim, not just Muslim?
- RIBA is halal because an sheikh in turkey said so?
- a close Turkish freinds family freind cried when she found out profit Mohamad (saws) was Arab and not Turkish.... Lol
I could post more but don't want to offend anyone..
P.S my wife is Turkish, so no I don't have a racist issue with Turks but have found alot are very racist towards other cultures especially Arabs.


through forums i have found that some turkish people are VERY nationalistic and will not hear a word against turkey or turkish people.
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Old 01-14-2012, 08:01 PM   #23
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Nationalism (pride over the patch of dirt one happened to be born over) is one of the diseases of the heart that has contributed hugely to the virtual destruction of this Ummah.

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Old 01-14-2012, 09:29 PM   #24
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Does anyone have the Arabic text of the extract from Harun Yahya's book that they can share:

“He (Hazrat Mahdi (as)) is someone who acquires the truth and closely resembles his forefather (Muhammad (saas)). He does not speak Arabic very well...
It has been mentioned in the Hadith that Imam Mahdi alayhissalaam will speak with a stutter. He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh. I think this was mean but somehow lost in translation. He is 'Arab so will speak Arabic well.


This proves that he is 'Arab and Ahl Bayt

The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt)." Reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4085

Hadhrat Umme Salmah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, " After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madinah) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:31 AM   #25
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A couple years back, I was surprised when my Arabic teacher, who is a hardcore Salafi, would always say Imam 'Ali ('alayhi al-salam), but if you look at the books of early scholars, you'll see that it is not uncommon at all for them to say 'alayhi al-salam after the names of Ahl al-Bayt. Open up al-Maktabah al-Shamilah, go to the search feature, go to the "kutub al-mutun" section, select all the books, and search for "علي عليه السلام." You will be surprised at how many muhaddithin say عليه السلام after mentioning his name. Not sure why it has come to be a distinguish feature of the shi'as in our time...
I'll try that, jazak Allah.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:19 AM   #26
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It has been mentioned in the Hadith that Imam Mahdi alayhissalaam will speak with a stutter. He will speak with a slight stutter and occasionally this stutter will frustrate him causing him to hit his hand upon his thigh. I think this was mean but somehow lost in translation. He is 'Arab so will speak Arabic well.


This proves that he is 'Arab and Ahl Bayt

The Prophet (PBUH and HF) said: "al-Mahdi is one of us, the members of the household (Ahlul-Bayt)." Reference: Sunan Ibn Majah, v2, Tradition #4085

Hadhrat Umme Salmah (R.A.) narrates that Rasulullah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, " After the death of a Ruler there will be some dispute between the people. At that time a citizen of Madina will flee (from Madinah) and go to Makkah. While in Makkah, certain people will approach him between Hajrul Aswad and Maqaame Ibraheem, and forcefully pledge their allegiance to him.
madina is the arabic word for "a city" also when Imam Mahdi doesnt speak arabic very well is not in conflict that he will be from the progeny of prophet Mohammad saas.

And Ahmad, Nu'aym ibn Hammad, al-Hakim and Abu Nu'aym narrated from Thawban [radhiyallahu 'anhu] that he said:
"The Messenger of Allah [sallallahu 'alayhi wa-sallam] said:
"When you see the black banners have come forward from Khurasan, then go to them even if you have to crawl over ice, for among them is Allah's khalifah, the Mahdi."


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Old 07-04-2012, 03:21 AM   #27
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Once Imam Mahdi appeared from bombay in Peace TV conference. I still cant forget that guy
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Old 07-04-2012, 05:54 AM   #28
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Salam `Aleykum,

Not one respectable report suggests that the Mahdi doesn't know Arabic very well.

So to save you time, drop the issue it is a waste of time.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:36 AM   #29
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There is no need to take Ibn Arabi seriously either. He has said stuff which has harmed the foundations of Islam and this one ie "Imam Mehdi does not speak Arabic well" is of trivial importance when compared with the other deviations he tried to induct into Islam. He has been declared a disbeliever by Shaykh ul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah ra , Imam Al Dhahabi , Imam Ibn Kathir , Imam Ibn Rajjab al Hanbali and many other scholars.
Fortunately there are many other scholars in Muslim Ummah than the ones mentioned above. Many other scholars equal or greater in caliber hold him in high esteem and address him as shaikhul akbar.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:42 AM   #30
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I'm surprised harun Yahya didn't just come out & say the mehdi will speak Turkish?
He did claim to be the mehdi at one stage.
One thing I can't understand is how do you fully understand Islam without an excellent understanding of Arabic?
I have been told many deviant things from Turkish people like:
- the Quran in Turkish is the same as Quran in Arabic
- the best Arabic writing/calligraphy/poems etc comes from turkey
- upon questioning in the grave when asked what is your religion alot of Turks will reply Turkish Muslim, not just Muslim?
- RIBA is halal because an sheikh in turkey said so?
- a close Turkish freinds family freind cried when she found out profit Mohamad (saws) was Arab and not Turkish.... Lol
I could post more but don't want to offend anyone..
P.S my wife is Turkish, so no I don't have a racist issue with Turks but have found alot are very racist towards other cultures especially Arabs.
He did say imam mahdi as will speak turkish, he will be of arab descent but will emerge from turkey and form the turkish union or something of that sort. His website is messed up but his books are good which i doubt he wrote now.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:47 AM   #31
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Salam `Aleykum,

Not one respectable report suggests that the Mahdi doesn't know Arabic very well.

So to save you time, drop the issue it is a waste of time.

is there any report about imam mahdi as emerging when muslim give up hope and forget about imam mahdi? i read somewhere imam mahdi as will emerge at a time whn very few muslims will know of him or remember him? if thats true cant be anytime soon?
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Old 07-04-2012, 10:45 PM   #32
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is there any report about imam mahdi as emerging when muslim give up hope and forget about imam mahdi? i read somewhere imam mahdi as will emerge at a time whn very few muslims will know of him or remember him? if thats true cant be anytime soon?
السلام عليكم


What is authentically reported is that the earth will be filled with tyranny and oppression before his appearance. And he shall lead an army later on in his Caliphate with black flags from Khurasan, and he will receive his Bay`ah between al-Rukn and al-Maqaam (Makkah).

So you can't really miss him, don't worry. As for the condition of Muslims, without much effort I'll tell you that the condition of the Muslims before the Mahdi will be bad, there are many narrations such as "This religion has begun as a stranger and it will return to being a stranger".
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