[borasolit]

I thought it would be useful to take a poll of the forumers' views on the exact nature of taqleed for one not qualified for ijtihad.

Taqleed shakhsi is taqleed restricted to one Imam/Madhab.

Taqleed ghayr shakhsi (a.k.a. taqleed mutlaq) is unrestricted taqleed of any scholar regardless of madhab.

No arguments necessary just vote.

[socialkiiii]

I think circumstances play a major role here. If a person is new to Islam or if a person is rediscovering Islam, I'd say that he should first start with following a scholar. Later on, as one gets more knowledge, they should restrict themselves to a particular madhhab. Of course this level of knowledge does not mean the same level as a mufti.

[borasolit]

I think circumstances play a major role here. If a person is new to Islam or if a person is rediscovering Islam, I'd say that he should first start with following a scholar. Later on, as one gets more knowledge, they should restrict themselves to a particular madhhab. Of course this level of knowledge does not mean the same level as a mufti.

That would come under number 3 then that both can be tolerated.

[aburva.org]

As Mufti Mohammed Sajjad put it in his article regarding Taqlid, the obligation is generally to do Taqlid of scholars if you aren't one, and this comprises of both Shakhsi and "general" Taqlid. And this would go with answer n. 3.
But there is a further point: due to the corruption of our times, nowadays the specific Shakhsi type of Taqlid is wajib. And this would go with answer n. 1.

So, theoretically, 3; practically, 1.

[Amorsesombabs]

the poll doesnt state who we are referring to. General folk, students of knwoledge, or scholars.

Both Salafis and deobandis agree with this division. The first thing my shaikh did when I requested to study with him, was to find out which category I fall under so he could know what things to teach me.

If its general folk, taqleed is necessary and it should just be of a reliable scholar in his locallity without enquiring his madhab. If its a student of knowledge, he should study a madhab under an alim, first making taqleed, and then learning teh evidences. If its an alim, he may need to make ijtihad, taqleed may be haraam for him depending on teh circumstance.

The ironic thing is both salafi and deobandis scholars agree on this point. Most of th disputes on this issue arise from the laymen who take it upon themselves to debate each other and try to being each other to the other side when in reality, no benefit will be gained should one change from blind following a salafi to blind following a deobandi or vice versa. the oppinions he follows will change, but no tanligible benefit wil be gained. Each side should leave the otehr side to get on with it, and focus on making sur ethey arepraying 5 times a day etc

[borasolit]

As Mufti Mohammed Sajjad put it in his article regarding Taqlid, the obligation is generally to do Taqlid of scholars if you aren't one, and this comprises of both Shakhsi and "general" Taqlid. And this would go with answer n. 3.
But there is a further point: due to the corruption of our times, nowadays the specific Shakhsi type of Taqlid is wajib. And this would go with answer n. 1.

So, theoretically, 3; practically, 1.

interesting response. Just to let you know Mufti Sajaads article has been responded to elsewhere, begins here.

The style of that response may not be palatable for everyone, so they might have to take a lesson from this before reading.

[xquFzpNw]

It depends on what is deemed as picking and choosing. One is where one literally picks and chooses everyday to do the same action differently.
the other is where you pick a opinion and then stick to it. so if you decide you want to pray salah as a shafi'i,then you adopt that method along with its rulings everyday and not,when one day you start bleeding, you suddenly say i'll take ruling of the shafi'i school.........to get out of this fix due to not being able to be bothered to repeat wudhu. Ive read a article by a erudite scholar who stated it was normal for people of the past to pray salah as a hanafi yet adopt another madhab for a another part of deen,like say zakaah etc. Its not as abnormal as its being made out.

[trorseIrripsy]

Vote: Taqleed Shakhsi---should be adhered to if there is not a valid reason to switch between madhabs

[mygalinasoo]

I am amazed that 7 people voted "I believe Taqleed shakhsi is obligatory"

[intendepods]

Salam Aleykum,

I did not vote, I believe people can pass by some or all of these stages during their lives.

[RLRWai4B]

You forgot taqlid shakhsi of the Salafi madhab, i.e. Albani, Uthaymeen, Bin Baz etc.

[SaLifHoq]

I voted for number 4 as i am gradually getting convinced that Taqleed (or atleast Taqleed e Shakhsi) is the root of many problems.

[mygalinasoo]

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[antiggill]

I voted for number 4 as i am gradually getting convinced that Taqleed (or atleast Taqleed e Shakhsi) is the root of many problems.

All the while you are associating your madhhab with the great name of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal .

We can help if you are confused.

[SaLifHoq]

All the while you are associating your madhhab with the great name of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal .

We can help if you are confused.

I think that won't lead to any contradiction. There has never been that staunch sort of the Taqleed among the Hanabilah. The strict form of Taqleed is primarily propagated by the Hanafis who while making arguments for Taqleed love to talk for the rest of the three Madhahibs in a way as if the rest of the three are in a perfect agreement with them.

[Fainnamoony]

I voted for number 4 as i am gradually getting convinced that Taqleed (or atleast Taqleed e Shakhsi) is the root of many problems.

gradually getting convinced, eh? LOL Who are you fooling? All it takes is one look at your post history. . .

[SaLifHoq]

gradually getting convinced, eh? LOL Who are you fooling? All it takes is one look at your post history. . .

Present my posts in which i have opposed Taqleed e Shakhsi.

[intendepods]

Since we're bringing up the Hanbali madhab it always confuses me, I read a couple of the sayings of Ahmad (rah) and he obviously was no fan of taqleed but how is it that he has a Madhab and a Muqallideen then???

[SaLifHoq]

Since we're bringing up the Hanbali madhab it always confuses me, I read a couple of the sayings of Ahmad (rah) and he obviously was no fan of taqleed but how is it that he has a Madhab and a Muqallideen then???

Once Shaykh Bin Baaz rahimahullah was asked a similar question and he replied by saying that i am a Hanbali as i follow the usool laid down by Imam Ahmed but as far as the Shari' rulings are concerned , i will not uphold the opinion of Imam Ahmed if i found an Ayaat or a Sahih Hadith against it and that is what Imam Ahmed rahimahullah would have done as well.
You can see the case of Shaykh Ul Islam Imam Ibn Taymiyyah rahimahullah. The Salafis quote him for his anti-taqlid stances and the Hanafis would call him a Hanbali. The same goes for the Ibn Qayyum rahimahullah.
The main issue is that before the demise of Turk Caliphate , the four Madhabs were living together. It was the best chance to show the beauty of a collective society of the four madhabs to the world but that did not happen. Infact they kept on fighting eachother and 4 Musalas were placed in Masjid Nabwi where all the four will make their own Jamaa't. This "love and respect" for the four Madhabs and Taqleed came up after they encountered the monster of Salafism. Its mainly a product of 'counter the Salafis mentality'.

[Fainnamoony]

Since we're bringing up the Hanbali madhab it always confuses me, I read a couple of the sayings of Ahmad (rah) and he obviously was no fan of taqleed but how is it that he has a Madhab and a Muqallideen then???

Well I heard that Imam Ahmad was a muhaddith, and he didn't like people writing down anything besdies ahadith. However, when the mu'tazili fitnah occured, and our Imam was beaten, his popularity rised and students flocked to him. Some of his students disobeyed his command not to consign to writing his usul, after he passed away, and hence his madh-hab survived. Wa Llahu a'lam.