[Stasher11]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m8qROL2D40

[AcecePesFeacy]

Lol

[Stasher11]

Lol

Don't laugh brother just do a dua for Ummah.

We are in crucial time & not in circus. OK?

[AcecePesFeacy]

Don't laugh brother just do a dua for Ummah.

We are in crucial time & not in circus. OK?

I am laughing at the fact that such 'secular' people will make an Islamic welfare state. I wonder. It will be more of an Islamic 'secular' state, which is synonymous to 'Islami Jamhuooriyah Pakistan'. I have no hope from any politician. Sorry, no offence.

[Stasher11]

I am laughing at the fact that such 'secular' people will make an Islamic welfare state. I wonder. It will be more of an Islamic 'secular' state, which is synonymous to 'Islami Jamhuooriyah Pakistan'. I have no hope from any politician. Sorry, no offence.

And who is secular among them and how?

[AcecePesFeacy]

And who is secular among them and how?

I am talking about Imran Khan. He who was taught abroad, his property is abroad, who believes British are his friends, who believes that marrying a kafir woman is jaiz, who believes that trasparent democracy will bring justice to Pakistan, who talks about empowerment and freedom of women, he who is using the 'pro Musharraf' party men to make an ISLAMIC WELFARE STATE. haha. no reason that I am really surprised how they can make fool of the public!

[Stasher11]

I am talking about Imran Khan. OK!

He who was taught abroad So what? There are many Muslims living abroad. What do you think of them?

his property is abroad
It seems that you are outdated. Go & check the video of press conference in which declared of his assets in Pakistan and showed the property transfer document of bringing all of the money to Pakistan. Now, question is why his money was in abroad? Because who he the international cricketer who played in London.

who believes British are his friends I have British friends too. SO?

who believes that marrying a kafir woman is jaiz inna lilahe wa inna elahe rajeun. She became a Muslim. Don't call her an infidel. Allah is watching you.

who believes that trasparent democracy will bring justice to Pakistan And talks about the system of Khilafat e Rashida for Pakistan

who talks about empowerment and freedom of women He is not offering any secular activities for women. Just wanna educate sisters, MashAllah !

he who is using the 'pro Musharraf' party men to make an ISLAMIC WELFARE STATE No matter from where people are joining his party, all are becoming members on the basis of the Constitution of Party and there is nothing wrong written in that as you could check it on PTI site.

haha.
Don't laugh! as it's not a circus.

no reason that I am really surprised how they can make fool of the public! Now, I must laugh ....

[RerRibreLok]

Here, I must agree with br. xtreme. Currently anyone living in pakistan with a good sense of events knows that Imran Khan is probably the best choice at their disposal. Whether good or not will be seen in future. Atleast we can hope he will stop the drone attacks, some how..

[ValintinoV]

, the right choice for Pakistan will be the person who will be independent from any foreign power and the pakistani establishment. The country needs an individual who is independent and does not has to take orders from anywhere to take us out from this foreign policy mess. Although I do believe that Imran Khan is going to put all those things right in which he will have real authority. Lets see if the bureaucracy, the military establishment, and this newly founded "independent" judiciary lets him work if he ever comes to power.

[9TWSg835]

I think PPP will come into power again.

Even if imran khan does come, im sure he wont be able to do anything.

[RerRibreLok]

I think PPP will come into power again.

Even if imran khan does come, im sure he wont be able to do anything.

umeed peh duniya qa'im hai
umeed on bro!

(world runs on hope
hope on bro!)

[Karensmith]

this is the catch...just putting an islamic label on one's party or ideology doesnt make it actually islamic. you take even 0.1% of islamic shariat (which is why pakistan was created) and it doesnt remain shariat. it becomes secularism. and this is what is PTI and what is ikhwan ul muslimeen in egypt. secular parties who like to talk about Islam. manifesto says otherwise unfortunately.
nor do i believe claims of some PTI supporters about 'gradualism': that they will gradually bring islam into the constitution. how many of the supporters and the PTI hardcore elite will accept rajm and qata yad as hudood? how will they destroy corruption without qata yad?
if imran khan comes in power liberals will run amok in pakistan. the society will be further secularized. this is exactly how the secular minded muslims fooled the indian muslims when pakistan was being created.

i have tons of other reasons why one should not vote for PTI. and an answer to the ridiculous question: if not PTI then whom?

[qilmuz6v]

Go here:

http://www.globaliamagazine.com/

Top Right of the page you can click on Globalia magazine, if you go to page 42 there is a great assessment of Imran Khan, very positive. Use the right arrow to navigate to the page. Let us hope and pray that he does not get harmed by the kuffar.

[numinertyuesk]

this is the catch...just putting an islamic label on one's party or ideology doesnt make it actually islamic. you take even 0.1% of islamic shariat (which is why pakistan was created) and it doesnt remain shariat. it becomes secularism. and this is what is PTI and what is ikhwan ul muslimeen in egypt. secular parties who like to talk about Islam. manifesto says otherwise unfortunately.
nor do i believe claims of some PTI supporters about 'gradualism': that they will gradually bring islam into the constitution. how many of the supporters and the PTI hardcore elite will accept rajm and qata yad as hudood? how will they destroy corruption without qata yad?
if imran khan comes in power liberals will run amok in pakistan. the society will be further secularized. this is exactly how the secular minded muslims fooled the indian muslims when pakistan was being created.

i have tons of other reasons why one should not vote for PTI. and an answer to the ridiculous question: if not PTI then whom?

Assalamualaikum,

I would like to read the answer to whom should be voted other then PTI?

[RerRibreLok]

Assalamualaikum,

I would like to read the answer to whom should be voted other then PTI?

This I would like to know too. There is no choice on the ballet which says Islamic Khilafat, or Imam Mahdi.. so when it comes to crunch .. who does on pick?

[Karensmith]

This I would like to know too. There is no choice on the ballet which says Islamic Khilafat, or Imam Mahdi.. so when it comes to crunch .. who does on pick?

the answer is that one will vote for PTI but only if they amend their secular manifesto to include islamic shariah.
and why shouldn't they? after all they are promising an 'islamic' welfare state.
this way if this gets propagated perhaps their top brass might actually do it.

[Karensmith]

Go here:

http://www.globaliamagazine.com/

Top Right of the page you can click on Globalia magazine, if you go to page 42 there is a great assessment of Imran Khan, very positive. Use the right arrow to navigate to the page. Let us hope and pray that he does not get harmed by the kuffar.

i read this.
old PTI rhetoric: starts from his cricketing career, then his rediscovery of islam, the cancer hospital and now the portrayal of PTI as the enforcer of islamic law and the 'only way out from war on terror'

anybody who understands or knows why AQ and US are fighting in pakistan would know this is laughable. as for the assertion that he will stop drones: boys, drones arent the problem, the so-called sovereignty of pakistan isnt the problem. the problem is we have come too far and we betrayed the wrong people.

abu zakir i thought since you had shared it, this might contain info as to how PTI plans to replace riba-based and banking and paper currency in pakistan. all i got was the rhetoric of 'islamic welfare state'
i am disappointed.

[RerRibreLok]

the answer is that one will vote for PTI but only if they amend their secular manifesto to include islamic shariah.
and why shouldn't they? after all they are promising an 'islamic' welfare state.
this way if this gets propagated perhaps their top brass might actually do it.

the problem with that is their perception of "islamic shariah" vs your perception thereof. It differs. while they are trying to bring their ideology of islamic environment and shariah, they cannot promise jamat islami people their understanding of islamic shariah, or ghamdi follower their ideology or alike..

So the issue will boil down to.. you have what you have on your plate.. who do you pick.. if its PTI for now.. then rest the case and hope for best. Perhaps get in touch with their personale to get your views accrossed but dont expect him to wholly accept your views, otherwise you might as well stand in his place.

[numinertyuesk]

the answer is that one will vote for PTI but only if they amend their secular manifesto to include islamic shariah.
and why shouldn't they? after all they are promising an 'islamic' welfare state.
this way if this gets propagated perhaps their top brass might actually do it.

Assalamualaikum,

So that means we let PPP carry on their work to destroy Pakistan?

Or is there any other better solution at this rate?

[Karensmith]

let me burst the theory of 'gradualism' that is propagated by PTI supporters in response to 'why don't you implement shariah?'. they respond with 'PTI will do it gradually - this is a stepping stone'

what is gradualism?
This is gradualism:
The President to his cabinet:
"...also we have to rid this country completely of the music concerts, whether open or underground, so that our society gravitates towards Islam and the work of tabligh is made easy because of absence of open sin. we are not going to ban everything over night. what we will do is make booking of concerts difficult by upping prices of import of equipment, concert venue and advertisement. we will not encourage foreign musicians to visit our country. we will up the rents on music shops and music accessories shops. authentic educated material speaking against music written by scholars of islam will be made easily available online, distributed to all book stores and portions of it introduced in the curriculum as per the education level.

in next phase we will disallow 'underground concerts' (played in dens and hip-garages)and ask them to play in the stadiums etc commonly used for concerts. we will up the price further for booking of concerts. meanwhile we will up the price for advertising and make sure the media channels obey a code of conduct with which there are certain times of the day they cannot play music and have to run the azaan.

we will keep on increasing the booking price of concert venues and equipment by introducing higher taxes on them. now we will ban concerts in schools and colleges and only allow them in few venues.

after prolonged practice of the above rules there will come a time where we will openly discourage concerts and music shows and eventually stop giving permits. without announcing it to the whole world.

Secretary: you are a genius sir.

What is not gradualism?
The President:
"...also tell the people we will ban concerts and music shows. it is in line with our policy of 'islamic state' and to get the vote of these mullahs and madrassah kids.
however we don't want to lose our secular and liberal votes. so what you do is say that ' if we come in power within 90 days we will ban concerts and music shows because we are an islamic state!!!!'. yes write that in my speech. but for appeasing of liberals what we should do is call Bono to Pakistan. you know he has got this peace and justice and humanity thing going on for him so yea it will be great for our image. make sure he sings Sunday Bloody Sunday with the crowd.
Then allow those headbangers to bring in Iron Maiden. then bring those Green Day lot and make them perform with Noori. then something for hip hop lovers so bring in usher and eminem and make sure they perform with ainee so that you know - conservatives don't feel uneasy.

Secretary: sir iron maiden won't be available until after the elections do you think we can wait or -

President: you do know we aren't going to put any such ban? the liberals will run riot. international condemnation. we can't become like North Korea. whenever they are available we are free for them : )

Secretary: *under his breath* "baghairtaa..."

The End.

this wasn't too serious. but you get the drift.
also notice the singers and musicians with PTI. and the unapologetic concerts at every 'tsunami flooding' in different cities. this is a purely secular party.