[Kghyutgykim]

RIYADH: The King Saud University (KSU) has been awarded two medical patents from US Patent and Trademark Office.
Dr. Khalid bin Saad Al-Saleh, the university's supervisor of the Program of Intellectual Property and Licensing of Technology, said the patents were awarded for the "Detection of lung cancer by photolysis of body fluids" submitted by KSU's Faculty of Medicine and for "A way to distinguish between malignant and benign prostate tumors" submitted by Princess Al-Joharah Al-Ibrahim Chair for Prostate Cancer Research.

http://arabnews.com/saudi-arabia/ksu...-patent-office

Who says saudi isnt making any developments or advancements? I wonder what research and development exists in other muslim lands?

[Sydrothcoathy]

we really never stop comparing ourself to west?
secondly, I dont know if patents is something islamic, it is allah who gave us abbilities which we have to develop in this world.
I dont get it why we need wests approval to be smart, educated, good in science, medicine.....
Would not be enough if muslim university awards adn promotes him? Or are we not able to do it insufficient way, avoiding greed?

it is refreshing to hear that muslims are so excellent, but do include him to western scale of values, seems to me worthless

w aslikum assalam

[Muhabsssa]

Great News! The Saudi's must be in their 'element' for receiving recognition from their heroes!

[drgshmcm]

Saudi sustains the American riba based dollar economy. Oil for dollars are exchanged and the dollars are then sent back to American corporations producing weapons and armaments...boosting the American economy and keeping it going. Saudi is one of the states making up the United States of America.

[Kghyutgykim]

we really never stop comparing ourself to west?
secondly, I dont know if patents is something islamic, it is allah who gave us abbilities which we have to develop in this world.
I dont get it why we need wests approval to be smart, educated, good in science, medicine.....
Would not be enough if muslim university awards adn promotes him? Or are we not able to do it insufficient way, avoiding greed?

it is refreshing to hear that muslims are so excellent, but do include him to western scale of values, seems to me worthless

w aslikum assalam

sister, a pantent isnt looking for approval, its ensuring other countries dont steal our ideas without paying us royalties.

Seeing as we have to pay the west whenever we wish to use their technology then why shouldnt we equally do the same in return?

I agree we dont need the wests permission but that isnt what has happened here

Many of you are incredibly ignorant concerning how to run a country and know very little of what is happening in teh muslim world in terms of development, engineering, economy etc. You are ruwaybidah, you speak on this issues with absolutely no knowledge of what you are talking about.

Saudi's economy would collapse if they stop selling oil to america as they havent weaned their economy off of oil yet (that process is underway), and as for weapons, where do you suggest they purchase their weapons from then? Perhaps they should have no weapons and "Allah will protect their country"?

Also it is totally inaccurate to say that saudi gives all its money to america, the saudi GDP is about $600billion, one of the highest muslim GDP's and around teh 10th highets in teh world. Only a portion of that is ear marked for defence, and taht includers salaries to their own soldiers and personell, their own defence industry, plus money for decent weapons from foreign nations in the interim whilst they build up their own defence industry. On top of this, they have massive amounts of gold reserves, put huge quantities of wealth into their education system, have many businesses (The largest company in teh world is a saudi state owned business), development of new cities and housing andother infrastucture, not to mention teh billions that go on running the hajj, developing and running the holy sites, plus billions on dawah, qur'an printing, islamic universities and bursaries to foregin students and many more things.

So to say taht saudi pays all its oney back to america its abolsute nonsense. Saudi is one of teh greatest muslim countries on earth right now and I know tahts a bitter pill to swallow for some of you

not to mention saudi is one of only three states aiding the removal of assad so taht sunni's can take back syria, along with turkey and qatar, so they clearly have a long term vision of changing teh muslim lands and building up alliances with variance muslim nations before they make any sudden moves against teh international community. Now that ikhwan have egypt and ennahda has turkey, things are moving forwards so you shoudl try to be more constructive about the muslim lands and not be so blinded by your hatred, I didnt read a single educated post on this thread, all posts showed that you are very ignorant concerning how things work, yet you continue to speak on the matters anyway dispite beign totally ignorant

[drgshmcm]

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Saudi's economy would collapse if they stop selling oil to america as they havent weaned their economy off of oil yet (that process is underway), and as for weapons, where do you suggest they purchase their weapons from then? Perhaps they should have no weapons and "Allah will protect their country"?

Saudi is a colony. It is a colony because they rebelled against the Khilafah. Now they are ruled and governed over by the kuffar they have no power of their own, they spend their oil milllions on buying kuffar produced products. They could have used those millions in developing their own technologies and business. They have failed. The weapons they buy from the arms manufacturers have never been used by Saudi, nor will they ever be used...they are completely dependent on the kuffar. Yet people like you keep saying how good Saudi is and how much charity they give and how much technology they are innovating. In fact they are useless in helping Muslims in anything, apart from spreading their secularised version of islam around the world.

[Kghyutgykim]

[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;783232]
Saudi is a colony. It is a colony because they rebelled against the Khilafah. Now they are ruled and governed over by the kuffar they have no power of their own, they spend their oil milllions on buying kuffar produced products. They could have used those millions in developing their own technologies and business. They have failed. The weapons they buy from the arms manufacturers have never been used by Saudi, nor will they ever be used...they are completely dependent on the kuffar. Yet people like you keep saying how good Saudi is and how much charity they give and how much technology they are innovating. In fact they are useless in helping Muslims in anything, apart from spreading their secularised version of islam around the world. your post is incorrect on many levels. Firstly, Saudi is the only country spreading the OPPOSITE of secularism, how many secularist madinah graduates have you heard of? Meanwhilse, places like pakistan are an absolute joke.

To say that because they "rebelled" against teh khilafah, what does this mean to you? WHat are the implications of this? Are the same implications against the abbasids and the ottomans themselves as both came in through rebellion.

Now you are talking about the development of saudi when you know absolutely nothing about the development of saudi. They are one of the most developing muslim nations in the world, they are innovating technology in virtually every field, in petroleum they had over 100 patens last year alone, they are making advancements in the medicle field, they have made advancements in space exploration, having a presence in NASA and having sent their citzens to space, they have produced their own automobiles, they have come leaps and bounds in communications technologies and have massive state owned communications companies that not only run saudi's communications unfrastutre but also have a presence in 10 otehr countries, in electronics which is my field, they are currently developing their own silicon valley and they have other cities they are building for nuclear and renewable enegry, another in defence, and I can list on and on

right now muslim nations are in no position to make rash moves, they must have hikmah, first we need teh muslim lands united and islamic inshAllah and a self sufficient economy and technology and strong armies, this will take time, we cant do anything else till we achieve taht inshAllah.

There is a reason russia and america never went to war

and saudi doesnt match the definition of colony

not to mention SAUDI IS THE SECOND MOST GENEROUS COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_foreign_assistance


"Since the 1970s Saudi Arabia has provided foreign assistance to many countries and organizations.
Between 1976 and 2006, Saudi developmental aid amounted to US$49 billion[1], second only to the United States of America. The ODA/GNP ratio averaged 4.2% over this period, well above the highest amount provided by Development Assistance Committee countries (the DAC average is 0.35%).[2] On a per-capita basis, the country is the biggest worldwide donator though the aid has only been given to Muslim countries[1]"

but we better not let facts get in the way of peoples blind hatred and partisanship. I wonder how many people who bad mouth saudi have ever actually analysed teh reality of Saudi and looked the facts?

[hellenmoranov]

LOL! bravo..!

[KhJOHbTM]

Aren't there thousands upon thousands of better things to do with your time than rack up thousands of posts on an internet message board, arguing with minnows from the sea of Muslims to defend Saudi Arabia?

[lkastonidwedsrer]

Madinah university is producing cartoon character 'scholars' and exporting them every where - you only have to search on youtube to the thicko robots they're producing.

[drgshmcm]

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They are one of the most developing muslim nations in the world, they are innovating technology in virtually every field, in petroleum they had over 100 patens last year alone, they are making advancements in the medicle field, they have made advancements in space exploration, having a presence in NASA and having sent their citzens to space, they have produced their own automobiles, they have come leaps and bounds in communications technologies and have massive state owned communications companies that not only run saudi's communications unfrastutre but also have a presence in 10 otehr countries, in electronics which is my field, they are currently developing their own silicon valley and they have other cities they are building for nuclear and renewable enegry, another in defence, and I can list on and on

You just do not get it, do you? The fact that Saudi sustains the riba bassed dollar economy means that it helps keep the most inhuman and destructive eceonomic system in power, and everything else that Saudi might do just feeds this system. Millions of people die each year because of Riba and Debt. Saudi and the Ikhwani Muslimeen only make riba and banking halal.

[Snweyuag]

who owns the bank that issues the saudi currency and who does the interest that is paid on this currency go back to? who benefits from this interest? does anyone know?

[Kghyutgykim]

Aren't there thousands upon thousands of better things to do with your time than rack up thousands of posts on an internet message board, arguing with minnows from the sea of Muslims to defend Saudi Arabia?

If even one of these "minnows" see's the reality of things and then learns some beneficial skills and takes them to the muslim lands and contructively helps rebuild the islamic civilisation rather than bitching about them from their comfy houses in dar al kufr, then inshAllah it will have been worth it.

I dont know what these guys expect saudi or turkey to do, they cant help having riba economies because they'll get wiped out from existence if they tried to make any rash moves now. they need more strength first. the prophet SAW made some major concessions in the treaty of hudaybia because of the long term benefits. Its down to us to empower the muslim lands inshAllah and the only way we can do that is if we have strong enough nations, militaries, ecnomies etc etc

[Kghyutgykim]

[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;783267]
You just do not get it, do you? The fact that Saudi sustains the riba bassed dollar economy means that it helps keep the most inhuman and destructive eceonomic system in power, and everything else that Saudi might do just feeds this system. Millions of people die each year because of Riba and Debt. Saudi and the Ikhwani Muslimeen only make riba and banking halal. you saw what happened to iraq when saddam tried to leave the dollar. We just dont have the stregnth to do this yet

do you also hate turkey as this same thing applies to them too

[Kghyutgykim]

who owns the bank that issues the saudi currency and who does the interest that is paid on this currency go back to? who benefits from this interest? does anyone know?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...f_Saudi_Arabia

[Kghyutgykim]

[QUOTE=Abu Zakir;783267]
You just do not get it, do you? The fact that Saudi sustains the riba bassed dollar economy means that it helps keep the most inhuman and destructive eceonomic system in power, and everything else that Saudi might do just feeds this system. Millions of people die each year because of Riba and Debt. Saudi and the Ikhwani Muslimeen only make riba and banking halal. if saudi arabia tried to totally isolate itself form the rest of the world economy then 1) they would get invaded and 2) they would ecomically collapse, and 3) the riba economy will still survive without saudi arabia. So you cant pin the worlds ill on saudi. And ikhwan and saudi are the best we have at the moment. Do you criticise turkey also? What about tunisia? What about yourself? Do you pay tax? Do you own a bank account? Do you purchase from shops which are part of the economy? So arent you also supporting this system?

[drgshmcm]

[QUOTE=AbuFatimah;783312]

you saw what happened to iraq when saddam tried to leave the dollar. We just dont have the stregnth to do this yet

do you also hate turkey as this same thing applies to them too

I do not hate Turkey nor Saudi.

The rulers of Saudi project themselves as Islamic, when they are not. They could at least speak out against the fact that they have a Riba economy, they do not even do that, pretending it is all ok and acceptable. It is easy to kill small criminals in Saudi, the big criminals are rewarded with status and wealth. This is Islam?

Saudi could easily start teaching people about a halal riba free economy they do not even do that. Building huge palaces, and sustaining the riba economy is all they do.

[Kghyutgykim]

[QUOTE=AbuFatimah;783316]

if saudi arabia tried to totally isolate itself form the rest of the world economy then 1) they would get invaded and 2) they would ecomically collapse, and 3) the riba economy will still survive without saudi arabia. So you cant pin the worlds ill on saudi. And ikhwan and saudi are the best we have at the moment. Do you criticise turkey also? What about tunisia? What about yourself? Do you pay tax? Do you own a bank account? Do you purchase from shops which are part of the economy? So arent you also supporting this system?

care to answer this last bit bro

also do turkey speak out against riba? What benefit would it do them even if they did? Did the prophet SAW teach us to simply "speak out" when it doenst bring benefit?

[beloveds]

[QUOTE=AbuFatimah;783316]

if saudi arabia tried to totally isolate itself form the rest of the world economy then 1) they would get invaded and 2) they would ecomically collapse, and 3) the riba economy will still survive without saudi arabia. So you cant pin the worlds ill on saudi. And ikhwan and saudi are the best we have at the moment. Do you criticise turkey also? What about tunisia? What about yourself? Do you pay tax? Do you own a bank account? Do you purchase from shops which are part of the economy? So arent you also supporting this system?

Isn't that shirk according neo salaf ? i guess if a wahabest does it its 'Sunnah'pathetic

[Kghyutgykim]

the fact is that saudi has made some medicle breakthroughs in research and rather than say mashAllah alhamdulillah it's good that a muslim country is working hard to try to advance islam and make some improvements to our situation, people only have disparaging comments. Yet I have seen plenty of praise for turkey, indonesia and malaysia dispite them having teh same problems of riba etc and same stregnths of being decent IN OUR CURRENT CIRCMSTANCES. I think there is some very anti saudi bia here and I have yet to see a single fatwa produced from the debandi kibaar ulema taht have disparaged saudi or encouraged to criticise them against the orders of the prophet SAW to not speak out against teh rulers

where is the referring back to the ulema? WHere is the taqleed? Where is the "dont make your own ijtihad"? It goes out of the window when it suits