[Vobomei]

From the hadith "paradise lies at the feet of the mother".

So why not the father ?

[salomal-qask]

Well, a mother has a higher status in Islam than the father, so I guess thats why....?


All the hadith basically means is that if you stick with your mother, and serve her well, and respect her, you will enter into Jannah.
The same can apply to the father.

[homerdienru]

From the hadith "paradise lies at the feet of the mother".

So why not the father ?

All I can take away from your question is that you are not a parent. I might be wrong about that but I don't think people who have been through parenthood and have seen what the other side goes through would be asking such questions.

Or maybe I am biased because I am a mother!

Fathers toil their lives away, usually out of the house, working for their wives and children - it is true. How many times do father's say it's all for them - the children. I look at my husband and know I cannot do what he does and feel grateful and blessed that Allah has put my best place for me in my own house. But still, when it comes to children the care, the attention, the attentiveness, the intuition, the constant thought about them at the back of the mind no matter what you are doing, the empathy, the sympathy, the pain, the quick pounding in the heart over even a little stumble - it's on a different level for a mother compared to a father. Of course it's a generalisation but many things in Islam to do with gender and relationships are based on generalisations because Allah knows what we are like and what the majority is like.

Not to mention the process of nine month pregnanacy and the birth itself.

[freevideoandoicsI]

From the hadith "paradise lies at the feet of the mother".

So why not the father ?

this may not answer you but...

The more important question is "why do we take a mother's claim one face value when she tells us that so-and-so is your father"? I mean there is no real substantial evidence or reasoning she gives for her claim. We just accept her claim. So what makes her word so powerful that we cast away all doubts that she may be lying. When she claims that, we never say, why not Mr. Zardari? or Mr. George?

I guess if we can accept her claim without fluttering an eye lid, we can also accept that hadeeth without probing for the reason. What do you say?

[Goksiodiffeli]

Coz a mothers heart is unique. A story I heard, you may have heard it already.

Once upon a time, in a large metropolitan area, a tall, fair, handsome young man fell deeply in love with the girl who lived in the high-rise apartment next door.

He courted her, expressed and exposed his feelings to her, and eventually won her heart.

The day he proposed, he got down on one knee and slid a stunning diamond ring onto her slender finger.

She gazed into his loving, warm gray eyes and spoke in a hushed tone.

"Darling, I love you and I will marry you. But you must prove how profoundly deep your love is for me before I can walk down the aisle with you."

He was flooded with relief to hear that she had agreed to be his wife, and wanted nothing more than to hear her desire. It was a certainty that no matter how insurmountable or impossible it was, he would find a way to come through for the ultimate woman he adored.

"Anything you wish, my love."

She smiled at him sweetly. He stood, then sat back down next to her, eagerly awaiting the challenge she would issue so that he could overcome it.

She continued, "I cannot explain my reasons for placing this demand upon you, I can only tell you that it is imperative that you do it."

She pulled her chair closer to his, so that her warm breath danced lightly across his cheek as she spoke. "The day you bring to me the heart of your mother on a silver platter is that day we will be wed. Without it, our lives together cannot continue. Will you do this to prove your love to me?"

Without hesitation, the young man agreed. "Yes, my love. I shall bring you my mother's heart tomorrow."

The next day, the young man regretfully killed his mother, then cut out her heart. He carefully placed it on a silver platter, then hurried out of the apartment and down the hall to his true love's home.

He knocked briskly, and was so excited that he lost his balance when she opened the door. He stumbled inside, and the silver tray carrying his mother's heart slid out of his hand and crashed to the floor. The young man landed face-first, his hands and knees bearing the brunt of his fall.

As sure as I am typing this story, the young man heard a faint sound emanating from the floor where the heart of his mother had landed.

"Did you hurt yourself, my son?" are the words he heard.

[gomosopions]

this may not answer you but...

The more important question is "why do we take a mother's claim one face value when she tells us that so-and-so is your father"? I mean there is no real substantial evidence or reasoning she gives for her claim. We just accept her claim. So what makes her word so powerful that we cast away all doubts that she may be lying. When she claims that, we never say, why not Mr. Zardari? or Mr. George?

I guess if we can accept her claim without fluttering an eye lid, we can also accept that hadeeth without probing for the reason. What do you say?

JazakAllah Hazrat

[Berta]

an ustaadh of darul uloom deoband said in our local mosque in ramadhan

the father is the key to jannah
mum deserves more love father more respect
also the duas of the mother could be based on emotional favouritism and the fathers on haq and logic

i like to take notes

also recently many people muslim and non muslim are reporting abuse by their mothers some very severe
even on this forum,and molana adam leicester severely reprimands mothers who take all the husbands wealth after husbands death
i know of a case where the mother has given all the money to youngest favourite son,and left other brothers out
also the story of a king whose mother was so naa shukran she allah made her a beggar,also by the ustaad in bayan

and locally i know of abuse simply because "im youre mother,i can do what i want"

of course we must treat our mothers and everyone with utmost respect,but its time ulema on mimbars and more literature was printed about rights of children.
and allahs anger on abusive parents

allahs ilm is complete.
and no one is above accountability
he has no favouritism,subhanallah.alhamdulillah.

[Vobomei]

this may not answer you but...

The more important question is "why do we take a mother's claim one face value when she tells us that so-and-so is your father"? I mean there is no real substantial evidence or reasoning she gives for her claim. We just accept her claim. So what makes her word so powerful that we cast away all doubts that she may be lying. When she claims that, we never say, why not Mr. Zardari? or Mr. George?

I guess if we can accept her claim without fluttering an eye lid, we can also accept that hadeeth without probing for the reason. What do you say?

Firstly , this question only arises once society is totally bankrupt. In most societies, Alhumdulillah, this view would be seen as highly suspicious. And we know suspicion is a grave sin.

Secondly, it doesnt answer the question. The question is about men and women, and not the "man and woman in bankrupt societies".

[Vobomei]

the father is the key to jannah
mum deserves more love father more respect
also the duas of the mother could be based on emotional favouritism and the fathers on haq and logic

he has no favouritism,subhanallah.alhamdulillah.

Im trying to stick to this narration. I dont really want to divert upon rights of the father, which is a great subject to discuss too, but not my point.

I disagree mum deserves more love, father more respect. They should be equally loved, equally respected, but A mothers rights are three times that of the father.

If he has no favouritism, why does paradise not lie at the feet of fathers ?

In this regard (of this narration), which is the question im asking, why the favouritism ?

Overall i agree, men and women are equal, qualities are balanced - lets discuss these qualities

[VeniHemealm]

The same question could be asked about these Ahadith; Why the father and not the mother?


Abu Darda' narrates: I heard Rasulullah saying: A father is the best gate of the gates of Paradise; so it is up to you, either you lose that gate (by disobeying him), or protect it (by obeying him).

(Tirmidhi)



'Abdullah ibn 'Umar narrates that Nabi said: Allah's pleasure lies in a father's pleasure and Allah's displeasure lies in a father's displeasure.

(Tirmidhi)

[Vobomei]

The same question could be asked about these Ahadith; Why the father and not the mother?

Maybe, and you are welcome to ask, am i welcome to ask too - Plus i think this is a more famous well known transmission ? Maybe i am wrong ?

Again im not asking about rights of a father to be obeyed, that is assumed. Also the defintion of father MUST be a good father, it cant be a bad father, who takes you from Islam. So im assuming both men and women are good in this context, and those men and women that beleive in this hadith, that "paradise lies at the feet of the mother"?

[Berta]

The same question could be asked about these Ahadith; Why the father and not the mother?


Abu Darda' narrates: I heard Rasulullah saying: A father is the best gate of the gates of Paradise; so it is up to you, either you lose that gate (by disobeying him), or protect it (by obeying him).

(Tirmidhi)



'Abdullah ibn 'Umar narrates that Nabi said: Allah's pleasure lies in a father's pleasure and Allah's displeasure lies in a father's displeasure.

(Tirmidhi)

jazakallah

[VeniHemealm]

Maybe, and you are welcome to ask, am i welcome to ask too - Plus i think this is a more famous well known transmission ? Maybe i am wrong ?

Again im not asking about rights of a father to be obeyed, that is assumed. Also the defintion of father MUST be a good father, it cant be a bad father, who takes you from Islam. So im assuming both men and women are good in this context, and those men and women that beleive in this hadith, that "paradise lies at the feet of the mother"?

Sure, the narration of Jannah lies at the feet of the mother is pretty famous but, that doesn't necessarily mean we don't take the other Hadith on the father as well. We have to treat people according to their status so, maybe the Ulamaa can clarify the detailed differences between the rights of father and mother.

Even if the father or mother is trying to take their child away from Islam, we're still ordered to treat them kindly in worldly affairs from the Aayah in Surah Luqman.

Brother Ahmed's post answers some of your questions...





http://islamicstudies.info/maarif/

[VeniHemealm]

jazakallah

الله يطول عمرك يا عمي

[freevideoandoicsI]

Firstly , this question only arises once society is totally bankrupt. In most societies, Alhumdulillah, this view would be seen as highly suspicious. And we know suspicion is a grave sin.

Secondly, it doesnt answer the question. The question is about men and women, and not the "man and woman in bankrupt societies".

I was hoping your mind would traverse a bit and catch what was intended, but alas.. Anyway, carry on

[GWRIeEQp]

From the hadith "paradise lies at the feet of the mother".

So why not the father ?

You will know when you become father..

seriously

[LxtdK9i4]

From the hadith "paradise lies at the feet of the mother".

So why not the father ?

And We have enjoined upon man to do good to his parents. His mother carried him with difficulty and delivered him with difficulty. Surah Ahqaaf, Ayat 15

Then the labour pains brought her to the trunk of a palm-tree. She said “O that I would have died before this, and would have been something gone, forgotten.” Surah Maryam, ayat 23

If you ever see a woman in labour pains, I'm sure you will understand why Jannat is at the mother's feet. Even the strongest heart can't witness it.

This is one reason that comes to mind. Rest Allah knows best.

I hope you don't ask this next: Why don't men go through labour pains.

[Vobomei]

And We have enjoined upon man to do good to his parents. His mother carried him with difficulty and delivered him with difficulty. Surah Ahqaaf, Ayat 15

Then the labour pains brought her to the trunk of a palm-tree. She said “O that I would have died before this, and would have been something gone, forgotten.” Surah Maryam, ayat 23

If you ever see a woman in labour pains, I'm sure you will understand why Jannat is at the mother's feet. Even the strongest heart can't witness it.

This is one reason that comes to mind. Rest Allah knows best.

I hope you don't ask this next: Why don't men go through labour pains.

yes this is why the hadith is only for the mother. Only the mother gives birth. Only the mother brings forward life. We are nowhere without the mother. Just as we are nowhere without Allah.

The woman is the embodiement of Allahs Rahmah, specifically the womb, hence the word for womb in Arabic is Rahm.

So its THROUGH the woman, that a man learns the ultimate qualities, the ones that make the woman spiritually superior.

So women in some ways are spiritually superior to balance the physical superiority of a man.

The responsibility of a man, is therefore to look after a woman, so he can feed off this spiritual energy and elevate himself from Muslim to Muhsin.

If he disrespects a woman, he can never learn this ultimate quality, has nothing to feed off, and so doesnt increase his emaan, and stays at best having Islam, and not having Emaan.

Peace to you all.

[LxtdK9i4]

yes this is why the hadith is only for the mother. Only the mother gives birth. Only the mother brings forward life. We are nowhere without the mother. Just as we are nowhere without Allah.

The woman is the embodiement of Allahs Rahmah, specifically the womb, hence the word for womb in Arabic is Rahm.

So its THROUGH the woman, that a man learns the ultimate qualities, the ones that make the woman spiritually superior.

So women in some ways are spiritually superior to balance the physical superiority of a man.

The responsibility of a man, is therefore to look after a woman, so he can feed off this spiritual energy and elevate himself from Muslim to Muhsin.

If he disrespects a woman, he can never learn this ultimate quality, has nothing to feed off, and so doesnt increase his emaan, and stays at best having Islam, and not having Emaan.

Peace to you all.

Are you a woman?

(Just kidding man, please don't start a new fight )

[Vobomei]

Are you a woman?

(Just kidding man, please don't start a new fight )

hmmm you are lucky its a sunnah to joke

Where was the old fight ?

Salaam bro