[Futfwrca]

I don't really know much about different subsets of Jews (or Muslims to be honest). I mean in very simple terms, whether they believe that the bible is the word of God, and whether they follow it. The same thing can apply to some Muslims and Christians, who proclaim their faith but don't fully believe in or follow the teachings of their religions.

Lets try a different question: Is a Muslim who doesn't follow the teachings of the Koran (sorry if I spelled that wrong) and doesn't go to mosque really a Muslim? Sorry if I'm getting of topic, but I'm interested to know what purple think on the subject.

For disclosure, the reason I'm interested in this is because my great grandmother was Jewish, and I've often despised the idea that anyone could think that means I'm Jewish. I'm not, never have been, and never will be. I don't have much of an opinion regarding the religion itself, but I view Israel's actions as a disgrace to those who support it.

Also, to back up my argument that they aren't that powerful, there is only one Jewish head of state in the world, and that's in Israel. Compare that to the numerous powerful Muslim countries. If Muslims weren't so divided, you could take over the world in a week. The only thing stopping you is all this Sunni, Sufi, Shiite, etc stuff that divides and weakens you.

I fully agree on teh bottom paragraph

regarding what defines someone as muslim, jewish, etc, its not about practice, its about belief.

If someone believes in teh fundamental beliefs of Islam, they are a muslim, namely that there is only one God or creator, that we can ask from that creator without the need of "lesser gods", statues and intermediaries, and that the creator is nothing like a human being or even imaginable to us, something external to the universe and all powerful and knowing. Secondly that muhammad SAW is the final prophet and messengerm and taht the qur'an is his message that is the word of God. If a person believes this, they are a muslim.

Im sure you get the idea, same applies to other faiths except replace the above paragraph with their key beliefs.

I agree man, muslims could be worldl leaders if they get their acts together inshallah

[FateHostera]

They are like the neo salafis , small in number, violent, wealthy - petrol dollars, they own eastern medias etc

[Jesslovers]

It is because the Jews get their power from the magic of riba and fractional reserve banking. It is a magic trick like Pharoahs magicians perform.

[Franchise]

Also because they made themselves seem non-threatening to the Christians, got educated, moved to capital cities, got influential jobs, tied up with the Freemasons and business elites and also became influential in the media.

Numbers are useless if they are mostly from the disempowered masses. Muslims need to realize that a great way to serve Allah is to follow the path the Jews did (educational, social and economic rising and development, public relations etc), but without compromising the religion or doing anything haram.

[somozasayre]

Also because they made themselves seem non-threatening to the Christians, got educated, moved to capital cities, got influential jobs, tied up with the Freemasons and business elites and also became influential in the media.

Numbers are useless if they are mostly from the disempowered masses. Muslims need to realize that a great way to serve Allah is to follow the path the Jews did (educational, social and economic rising and development, public relations etc), but without compromising the religion or doing anything haram.

The main reason is that they have uses Ribba / interest to inslave the Majority of the world ...

[marcusdexz]

Assalaamu'alaikum wr wb,

During my study, every other day I find some great discovery, technical genius, breakthrough innovations, CEOs, Game-changing businessmen, Movie Directors par excellence etc belonging to this community. Any reason, any historical trend, community level traits or other unknown things that make them so? just wondering if someone knew anything on this matter?

PS: Kindly stick to the topic if you can. I am just genuinely curious if there are any reasons or thought-chains in this matter and have no stupid intention of glorifying them. I know that this is one of the worst communities in terms of their behavior towards maligning and hurting muslims and islam.

So that Ummat e Muslimah doesnt have to waste their time after these things. The peasants do the work but the prince enjoys the final product. The prince however is busy preparing to be a king.

Anyways, dont believe the hype, there are a lot more Jews than what they claim.

[marcusdexz]

Not to mention they usually rip stuff off other people.

[Lvnufcdc]

Jews have a great sense of unity in their community, Israel is a strong collectivist country.

I think it was Sheikh Zahir Mahmood who said in one of his talks that the jews of israel are upon the sunnah of this Khalifah of our past (I can't remember his name from the top of my head, I think it begins with M)...but anyways, in palestine for every israeli killed dozens of Palestinians are killed in return, and I remember a while ago, the Israelis freed 100 palestinian prisoners for the release of one israeli soilder held in captivity by palestinians.

[marcusdexz]

The funny thing is jews within themselves are extremely divided, often they give "kufr" label on each other, however, they set aside all differences and unite as an ethnicity against outsiders.

[marcusdexz]

Hollywood is run by Arab Jews, I am sure you have heard of the term "Old Money". What is portrayed in American pop culture (movies, music etc) is not really American culture or American people, its Jewish culture. Its Jewish slang. Its Jewish comedy, Jewish ideas.

Just if you live/work among them for some time you can connect the dots and see just how great of an influence they have on the world, they got an entire population speaking and even thinking just like them and dressing how they want them to dress.

[Agehoobionibe]

Jews have a great sense of unity in their community, Israel is a strong collectivist country.

I think it was Sheikh Zahir Mahmood who said in one of his talks that the jews of israel are upon the sunnah of this Khalifah of our past (I can't remember his name from the top of my head, I think it begins with M)...but anyways, in palestine for every israeli killed dozens of Palestinians are killed in return, and I remember a while ago, the Israelis freed 100 palestinian prisoners for the release of one israeli soilder held in captivity by palestinians.

There are two factors for their successes:

* They view themselves as a minority and potentially under threat (by Muslims and others), hence their unity is stronger. Minority groups are always tied together in a better knot.
* They are less a religious group and more a racial group (thats how they perceive themselves; dispite them being from different ethnicities). Hence, they have a racial-superiority complex about them, this also helps them in being united and helping each other out, and most of all helping their "nation" out (Israel). This is no different than what we have from Chinese nowadays, and formerly from Japan, Germany, Russia. Even those chinese who dont like their govt, they love their country and strive to pursue glory for their nation.

I think it may come down to how you define "Jews" and "overall population". If you're referring to the population of Israel, then without meaning to be rude, I don't think they do "amazing work" any more than any other nation of it's size.

If you mean prolific and famous Jews outside of Israel, then it's worth considering that they may often be labled as Jews by the media due to family heritage, but not actually be Jewish by belief or practice. I think that's the case with a lot of the most prolific examples.

I don't know what people think about whether that makes them Jewish, but to me, a person's religion its defined by what they truly believe in, not what family they come from. If they don't read the Torah or go to synagogue, are they really Jewish?

The true jews are the "Mizrahis", the jews who are brown and from the middle-east. The palestinians themselves are more jewish than most zionist-jews, who are from europe, russia, central-asia.

Problem is, most jews consider themselvs part of a racial group, and the SAME racial group. This is just to justify their occupation Israel, claiming it is originally theirs. However, this mentality has also seeped into those who dont care much for "Judaism", but the racialism makes them become zionist and hence continue to identify themselves with "jewry".

P.s. For a Muslim, success is not defined by materialistic gains.

I do not care much for personal wealth, but the "gains" of a community can have many forms and uses. And indeed, this pleases Allah... In the old day, a third of all children died in infancy. Our Prophet (sa) himself lost many of his children. The modern innovations and inventions in the medical field have totally turned it around. Children no longer need to suffer, women no longer need to suffer during or after birth. MANY lives are saved now. And vaccines have helped to prevent diseases/handicaps. Fans and ACs have helped to make it cooler for the Muslims in the masjid.

Information-technology has made it easier for muslims to communicate with their loved ones, seek advice from the reputed scholars, and spread news/truth which must be known by their fellow man/brethren. Cars and planes have made it much easier for the Musafir. Planes and ships make it possible for people from around the world to go to Hajj. And it makes it easier to do business/trade the way the Prophet (sa) took the caravan to syria, and the sahaba and Khadija (ra) did trade all around Arabia. Surely, these are "successes", and surely these please Allah (swt). Because ultimately every one of these innovations have helped the Muslims, and helped the cause of Allah. And surely our Rasul could have made use of each and every one of the aforementioned.

[Franchise]

There are two factors for their successes:

* They view themselves as a minority and potentially under threat (by Muslims and others), hence their unity is stronger. Minority groups are always tied together in a better knot.
* They are less a religious group and more a racial group (thats how they perceive themselves; dispite them being from different ethnicities). Hence, they have a racial-superiority complex about them, this also helps them in being united and helping each other out, and most of all helping their "nation" out (Israel). This is no different than what we have from Chinese nowadays, and formerly from Japan, Germany, Russia. Even those chinese who dont like their govt, they love their country and strive to pursue glory for their nation.



The true jews are the "Mizrahis", the jews who are brown and from the middle-east. The palestinians themselves are more jewish than most zionist-jews, who are from europe, russia, central-asia.

Problem is, most jews consider themselvs part of a racial group, and the SAME racial group. This is just to justify their occupation Israel, claiming it is originally theirs. However, this mentality has also seeped into those who dont care much for "Judaism", but the racialism makes them become zionist and hence continue to identify themselves with "jewry".




I do not care much for personal wealth, but the "gains" of a community can have many forms and uses. And indeed, this pleases Allah... In the old day, a third of all children died in infancy. Our Prophet (sa) himself lost many of his children. The modern innovations and inventions in the medical field have totally turned it around. Children no longer need to suffer, women no longer need to suffer during or after birth. MANY lives are saved now. And vaccines have helped to prevent diseases/handicaps. Fans and ACs have helped to make it cooler for the Muslims in the masjid.

Information-technology has made it easier for muslims to communicate with their loved ones, seek advice from the reputed scholars, and spread news/truth which must be known by their fellow man/brethren. Cars and planes have made it much easier for the Musafir. Planes and ships make it possible for people from around the world to go to Hajj. And it makes it easier to do business/trade the way the Prophet (sa) took the caravan to syria, and the sahaba and Khadija (ra) did trade all around Arabia. Surely, these are "successes", and surely these please Allah (swt). Because ultimately every one of these innovations have helped the Muslims, and helped the cause of Allah. And surely our Rasul could have made use of each and every one of the aforementioned.

this is true and on the converse the Muslims mostly no longer identify truly with Islam,
they mostly identify with their race first and Islam second
and everywhere Muslims are sticking together in their racial groups against the rest
and within this they are sticking together with their national group against the rest
and within these they are sticking together with their tribal group against the rest
and within their tribal group they are sticking together with their broader families against the rest
and they are wrapped up in the world.

people don't see themselves as Muslims first any more, they have become Pakistani-Muslims instead of just Muslims from Pakistan and Turkish Muslims instead of just Muslims from Turkey.

When most Muslims are so far from the way of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) it is no wonder that Darussalam has become somewhere the kafiroon can use as their toilet, their bomb's target and then take whatever they want from it when they want.

[texbrease]

Following the Jewish ways/technology won't bring dominance back to Muslims. lolz. In fact take all the Muslim countries and their leaders, almost all of them are trying hard to ape the west, I don't see it working for them.

We turned away from Allah Ta'ala, so he decreased our barakah. Muslims will rule the world when they turn back to Islam and become Mutaqeen.
PERIOD


"Now, Allah has lightened [the hardship] for you, and He knows that among you is weakness.
So if there are from you one hundred [who are] steadfast, they will overcome two hundred.
And if there are among you a thousand, they will overcome two thousand by permission of Allah.
And Allah is with the steadfast." (Al-Anfal:66)