[paydayloanfasters]

AsalaamsWW,

I noticed now for years since far back as i can remember that many of us after farz salaat pray something then blow on our thumbs then pass the thumbs over the eyes once or three times. Can someone please post a link here describing exactly whats prayed and the method its done and the evidences for it (or book its described in and where i can buy the book from)

Jazakallah...

[surefireinvest]

Wa alaykum salam,

I do not have the evidences but I am assuming people recite 'Ya Lateefu' 11 times. This is supposed to be for strengthening the eyesight.

There's another one 'Ya Qawiyyu' which people recite 11 times for memory, too.

[g4YthYXx]

I use to recite ya nur three times and each time blow on my fingers and rub my eyes. I was pretty sure it was a sunnah. One salafi guy asked me where i got that practice from and I confidently told him it was in a book I had. When I told him it was a dua book with no sources, he just laughed. Only after 'researching' the matter I realized its not a sunnah, but rather if I remeber correctly it is recommended by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi. Mufti Zubair Butt had a response to a query about Reciting Ya Qawiyy and Ya Nuru 11 times and then blowing your fingers and rubbing your eyes after Salat, and he did not classify it as biddah. His website is down at the moment.

[surefireinvest]

^ Whoops, sorry. I meant Ya Nooru, not Ya Lateefu.

[paydayloanfasters]

Theres not only this one but another when you pray something then blow on your hands then wipe your hand over your chest (heart) - whats that one?

Another where you put your one hand on your head and pray something but no blowing - i think i recall a brother mentioned that a sahaba done this head amaal and its referenced in Hayatus Sahaba by Molana Yusuf (ra), can someone verify the evidence, let me know whats prayed, how many times and exact method?

I remember some years back after esha jamaat just finished a local brother done the blowing over thumbs/rubbing eyes one and another head one so fast whilst getting up in a rush (Champions League night) it looked a strange sight him getting up and walking between the rows and at the same time blowing on thumbs then eyes then head etc all in a rush ........ ( still i think his Scouse team lost by the way)

[g4YthYXx]

Assalamu Alaikum

I was taught to place my hand on my forehead and say ya qawi. There is also dua which I think is mentioned by Imam Nawawi which you say after salah while placing your hand on your forehead

[barsikjal]

... Only after 'researching' the matter I realized its not a sunnah, but rather if I remeber correctly it is recommended by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi. Mufti Zubair Butt had a response to a query about Reciting Ya Qawiyy and Ya Nuru 11 times and then blowing your fingers and rubbing your eyes after Salat, and he did not classify it as biddah. His website is down at the moment.

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Only after 'researching' the matter I realized its not a sunnah Now what is't? Muztahab? Afdal ? etc.

rubbing your eyes after Salat, and he did not classify it as biddah With all due respect to u, what should be definition of biddah?

Salam

[g4YthYXx]

Assalamu Alaikum

This is from al adkhar of Imam nawawi

وروينا في كتاب ابن السنيّ، عن أنس رضي اللّه عنه قال‏:‏
كانَ رسولُ اللَّه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم إذا قَضى صلاتَه مسحَ جبهتَه بيده اليمنى، ثم قال‏:‏ ‏"‏أشْهَدُ أنْ لا إلهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الرَّحْمَنُ الرَّحِيمُ، اللَّهُمَّ أذْهِبْ عَنِّي الهَمَّ والحزنَ‏"‏‏


To bro rqsnt, I was only passing on what I found out. When the website is up again you can read Mufti Zubair's response.

[barsikjal]

Assalamu Alaikum

This is from al adkhar of Imam nawawi

وروينا في كتاب ابن السنيّ، عن أنس رضي اللّه عنه قال‏:‏
كانَ رسولُ اللَّه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم إذا قَضى صلاتَه مسحَ جبهتَه بيده اليمنى، ثم قال‏:‏ ‏"‏أشْهَدُ أنْ لا إلهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الرَّحْمَنُ الرَّحِيمُ، اللَّهُمَّ أذْهِبْ عَنِّي الهَمَّ والحزنَ‏"‏‏


.....

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu

Can any one help to find is't hadith? if yes then can translate it in to English?

Salam

[mobiphones]

Asalam alyekum,
The defination of bid'ah is very clear to whoever care about his religion.....
when Allah's apostle(PBUH) was asked by the Shaabah (Ridhwanulah Aj'maeen) how to observe solat,He told them point clear to do it exactly as seen him doing it...... though am not going against these act of prayers after each solat Only if there is any Aunthentic Hadith which support these act then there is nothing to argue about again but if there is'nt, it is a CAPITAL BID'AH (INNOVATION).

Maa Salam.

[nuabuncarnigo]

As-Salaam Alaikum Wa-Rahmatullahi Wa-Barakatuhu



Now what is't? Muztahab? Afdal ? etc.



With all due respect to u, what should be definition of biddah?

Salam

This is a Ruqya prescribed by Shaykh (Maulana) Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) and all Ulama (Salafees included) accept reciting Qur'aan and blowing on body parts.

This is neither Sunnah nor Mustahab but a Ruqya therefore cannot be classed as Bid'ah.

Reciting verses of the qur'aan and blowing or rubbing on body parts as a Ruqya is absolutely permissable in Shariah.

[zlopikanikanz]

Assalamu Alaikum

This is from al adkhar of Imam nawawi

وروينا في كتاب ابن السنيّ، عن أنس رضي اللّه عنه قال‏:‏
كانَ رسولُ اللَّه صلى اللّه عليه وسلم إذا قَضى صلاتَه مسحَ جبهتَه بيده اليمنى، ثم قال‏:‏ ‏"‏أشْهَدُ أنْ لا إلهَ إِلاَّ اللَّهُ الرَّحْمَنُ الرَّحِيمُ، اللَّهُمَّ أذْهِبْ عَنِّي الهَمَّ والحزنَ‏"‏‏


To bro rqsnt, I was only passing on what I found out. When the website is up again you can read Mufti Zubair's response.

'When the Prophet[saw] finished his prayers he passed his right hand over his head and said these words:In the name of Allah besides whom there there is no other god,the kind,the merciful.O Allah drive away from me worries and grief'' [At tabaraani#451]

[ArrichMer]

Another where you put your one hand on your head and pray something but no blowing - i think i recall a brother mentioned that a sahaba done this head amaal and its referenced in Hayatus Sahaba by Molana Yusuf (ra), can someone verify the evidence, let me know whats prayed, how many times and exact method?

Assalaamu 'alaykum
Its after fard of maghrib, say Allaahuakbar once and Astaghfirullaah 3 times, the place right hand on the head and say:
"bismillaahil lathee laa-i-laa-ha illaa huwar rahmaanur raheem. Allaahumma ath-hib 'annil hamma walhuzn"
through this du'a all worry and grief dissipates and anxiety and uneasiness is removed...from:
"the day & night of a mu'min" by mawlana Hajji Farooq sahib (khaleefa of shaykh Maseehullah Khan sahib)

It also says, after every fard salat,
11 times Yaa noor to improve eyesight
11 times yaa qawwiyyu to improve memory
It does not mention blowing on thumbs and rubbing on eyes or forehead

[OShellszz]

'When the Prophet[saw] finished his prayers he passed his right hand over his head and said these words:In the name of Allah besides whom there there is no other god,the kind,the merciful.O Allah drive away from me worries and grief'' [At tabaraani#451]

As Salamu alaikum,

This practice is very widespread among S.E Asian Shafi'is. It has a basis in the school as it is mentioned in some of the later Fiqh works such as Bushra al-Karim (a commentary of al-Muqaddimat al-Hadramiyyah). My Shaykh reviewed this issue and mentioned, quoting from the commentary of al-Adhkar, that the narration is very weak.

Allah knows best

[paydayloanfasters]

Assalaamu 'alaykum
Its after fard of maghrib, say Allaahuakbar once and Astaghfirullaah 3 times, the place right hand on the head and say:
"bismillaahil lathee laa-i-laa-ha illaa huwar rahmaanur raheem. Allaahumma ath-hib 'annil hamma walhuzn"
through this du'a all worry and grief dissipates and anxiety and uneasiness is removed...from:
"the day & night of a mu'min" by mawlana Hajji Farooq sahib (khaleefa of shaykh Maseehullah Khan sahib)

It also says, after every fard salat,
11 times Yaa noor to improve eyesight
11 times yaa qawwiyyu to improve memory
It does not mention blowing on thumbs and rubbing on eyes or forehead

Jazakallah for that sister. Personally I’ve never done these after seeking advice from Mufti Yaseen and indirectly from Mufti Farooq Desai (both of Muftisays) some years back. Does that book you quoted above mention the source of these actions?

[ArrichMer]

Jazakallah for that sister. Personally I’ve never done these after seeking advice from Mufti Yaseen and indirectly from Mufti Farooq Desai (both of Muftisays) some years back. Does that book you quoted above mention the source of these actions?

No it doesn't state a source for every du'a but in the preface it says that Hazrat "outlined the masnoon a'maal during the 24 hour day and night, as well as the habitual practices of our pious predecessors, in the light of which one is enabled to spend the day and night according to the sunnat of Rasoolullah sallallaahu 'alayhi wasallam"

[Snweyuag]

Salaam All,

Sorry to revive an ancient thread. I am very very Deobandi-friendly but I am struggling to understand why this isn't classified as bid'ah? True - doing ruqyah using blowing is permissible in general but to do so after every fard salah??? I see Deobandi/Tablighi brothers do this all the time.

Why would this be not classified as bid'ah but congregational dua is? One can say that group dua in general is permissible but to do so after every fard salah is bid'ah. (NB: I myself think that group dua after salah is bid'ah - I am just playing devil's advocate for once)

NB: Not my intention to cause fitnah but just trying to understand from a usooli perspective.

[MexicoCity]

Why would this be not classified as bid'ah but congregational dua is? One can say that group dua in general is permissible but to do so after every fard salah is bid'ah. (NB: I myself think that group dua after salah is bid'ah - I am just playing devil's advocate for once)

I was under the notion that group dua was permitted under Shafi'i Madhab.

[Snweyuag]

I was under the notion that group dua was permitted under Shafi'i Madhab.

Salaam Akhi Amr,

As I said - sometimes I can be a bit too Deobandi friendly haha.

For example - in the matters of bid'ah - I prefer the Deobandi approach that there is actually no bid'ah hasanah in matters of religion (despite Shaykh ul Islam Izz ud-deen's categorisation). Also on matters like istigatha (e.g. despite the Shaykh ul Islam Shams-ud-deen Ramli and Ibn Hajar Haytami's opinions on it)

I guess I am a pseudo Deobandi-Shafi'i - if such a term exists!!

[MexicoCity]

Salaam Akhi Amr,

As I said - sometimes I can be a bit too Deobandi friendly haha.

For example - in the matters of bid'ah - I prefer the Deobandi approach that there is actually no bid'ah hasanah in matters of religion (despite Shaykh ul Islam Izz ud-deen's categorisation). Also on matters like istigatha (e.g. despite the Shaykh ul Islam Shams-ud-deen Ramli and Ibn Hajar Haytami's opinions on it)

I guess I am a pseudo Deobandi-Shafi'i - if such a term exists!!