[PristisoliTer]

As-Salamualaikum brothers and sisters,

I have a friend that I hadn't seen in a while and i saw him yesterday, we talked with each other for some time (at a dinner at our masjid). Now growing up he wasn't the most practicing muslim, but what he was telling me now was unbelievable. As i was going to salah, he wasn't, and I asked him what he was waiting for and he said he doesn't pray. So thats when I asked him why and got his viewpoint on what Islam is. To make this short his view is that the Quran is the word of God and is absolutely complete and so anything besides what is said in the Quran is not true. He does not follow any madhab doesn't believe in any of the hadith as well as the pillars of Islam and was using insulting words towards the imams, and even was somewhat condescending when it came to the prophet pbuh (istaghfurrallah). To be honest I didn't what to say to him (such as why we follow the hadith, pillars of islam, etc. etc.) and I had to make my prayers. Also I am still learning to memorize much of the quran as well as understand it so I couldn't give him any evidence on the spot. But what do you say to a person who believes in something like this? Is even considered a muslim since he doesn't pray or make hajj?

thank you and salam

[MilenaMKB]

Its a sad thing that your friend is behaving like this. But its better not to discuss publicly whether he is a Muslim or not. May Allah give him guidance. ameen.

Hadith rejectors are certainly misguided and deviant.

[Lafclaria]

The Qur'anites say, reject hadith and only follow the Qur'an because everything is contained in the Qur'an! I think someone needs to tell them, firstly even though the statement 'everything is contained in the Qur'an' is correct, they have taken this statement out of context! If the angle they look at this statement is correct then where in the Noble Qur'an does it tell you how to pray Salah, how much Zakat to give and how to perform Hajj? The statement that the Qur'an contains everything is true because Allah tells us in the Qur'an to stick to the Sunnah and not to deviate from it because the Sunnah (given to us through hadith) is revelation in itself, which gives us knowledge of how to do all forms of Ibadah that includes how to perform the 5 pillars of Islam, as well as how to understand the 5 pillars of Eman!

Now secondly, the irony is, the Qur'anites believe that all hadith are not authentic because humans have the capacity to make errors, so maybe someone needs to whisper into their ear that the Qur'an was brought to us through the companions! So if they believe all hadith are not authentic due to man made errors then they would have to believe the same for the Qur'an too! You either believe both hadith and Qur'an are authentic or you believe neither are, you can't have one ruling for all hadith and another ruling for the Qur'an!

Also there are 50 specific verses in the Quran that negate their belief of believing in the Qur'an only!

[blogwado]

But the Quran commands Muslims to pray in so many places...?!

[HwoRas1]

He is a kaafir due to his hadith rejection and you should no longer be his friend. The most you should do is give him some dawah material and pray for him and if it becomes necessary for you to warn others of his deviance (for example, if he is about to marry a Muslim girl) then do so, otherwise leave it

[oemcheapdownload]

But the Quran commands Muslims to pray in so many places...?!

The Quran also tells to pay zakat but not how much. The hadith are transmitted just like the Qur'an though the Qur'an has been totally sanctified by Allah, the chain of narrations tell of the authenticities of the hadith with some having many chains.

[brraverishhh]

He is a kaafir due to his hadith rejection and you should no longer be his friend. The most you should do is give him some dawah material and pray for him and if it becomes necessary for you to warn others of his deviance (for example, if he is about to marry a Muslim girl) then do so, otherwise leave it

You should have stated the general fatwa on hadith rejectors rather than making takfir of an individual without knowing his state.

[isopsmypovA]

He is a kaafir due to his hadith rejection and you should no longer be his friend. The most you should do is give him some dawah material and pray for him and if it becomes necessary for you to warn others of his deviance (for example, if he is about to marry a Muslim girl) then do so, otherwise leave it

wow, that is shocking. only the kalimah enters, by affirmation, and exits a person, by explicit stated unbelief and withdrawal, in and out of islam. we need to be very careful about takfir.

[HwoRas1]

wow, that is shocking. only the kalimah enters, by affirmation, and exits a person, by explicit stated unbelief and withdrawal, in and out of islam. we need to be very careful about takfir.

WRONG. Why did Abu Bakr (RA) fight those who did not believe zakaat to be obligatory and called them kuffar if what you said is true? These people were reading the kalimah too yet he fought them and killed them.

[HwoRas1]

You should have stated the general fatwa on hadith rejectors rather than making takfir of an individual without knowing his state.

I based everything on what the OP said and it is clear that such a person is a kaafir.

[celddiskend]

As-Salamualaikum brothers and sisters,

I have a friend that I hadn't seen in a while and i saw him yesterday, we talked with each other for some time (at a dinner at our masjid). Now growing up he wasn't the most practicing muslim, but what he was telling me now was unbelievable. As i was going to salah, he wasn't, and I asked him what he was waiting for and he said he doesn't pray. So thats when I asked him why and got his viewpoint on what Islam is. To make this short his view is that the Quran is the word of God and is absolutely complete and so anything besides what is said in the Quran is not true. He does not follow any madhab doesn't believe in any of the hadith as well as the pillars of Islam and was using insulting words towards the imams, and even was somewhat condescending when it came to the prophet pbuh (istaghfurrallah). To be honest I didn't what to say to him (such as why we follow the hadith, pillars of islam, etc. etc.) and I had to make my prayers. Also I am still learning to memorize much of the quran as well as understand it so I couldn't give him any evidence on the spot. But what do you say to a person who believes in something like this? Is even considered a muslim since he doesn't pray or make hajj?

thank you and salam

dude i think ur friend is just making a excuse to not follow islam????? its like a way out for those who are stuck on non practicing i think!?! *cuz i know ppl like that.*

[HexcewlyRette]

A kafir is someone who knows about Islam, what it entails, and rejects it.

rejecting hadith, rejecting salah, sunnah makes someone a kafir. obviously we are not referring to differences over authenticity or interpretation of specific hadith/sunnah but a general dislike for hadith.

[celddiskend]

hafiz gee mashaALLAH Alhmadulliah how are revising for ramadan i need tips URGENT

[etdgxcnc]

WRONG. Why did Abu Bakr (RA) fight those who did not believe zakaat to be obligatory and called them kuffar if what you said is true? These people were reading the kalimah too yet he fought them and killed them.

It's VERY different to compare not paying zakah with not believing in Ahadith.

Not paying zakah = kuffar because that is saying "Allah told us to pay zakah, but we won't do it". Zakah is a clear cut issue.

Rejecting Hadith, while misguided, is not the same as not paying zakah and it does not make one a kuffar. It just makes one seriously misguided.

[86GlSqSK]

I think your friend is kind of Ahle Hadeeth people ( Salafi )
Because they also say we have to follow Quran only and sahi hadees but actually they don't they miss guide people regarding Hadeeth and 4 Imam.

My advise is do Dua for Him take him to Ulema Kiram and clear his misunderstanding regarding 4 Imam and Hadeeth

[HexcewlyRette]

hafiz gee mashaALLAH Alhmadulliah how are revising for ramadan i need tips URGENT

Salam

If I understand your query correctly, this is the course of action I suggest:

do (at least) two khattams before Ramadan. Read every Juzz once (in each khattam) but if you find some that are weaker than others then read those more than once using a divide and conquer approach:

say juzz 1 is easy so just read it once. however juzz 2 is kutcha (weak) so read the first qaurter once, twice, or thrice (as many times as you need) and then move on to the next quarter and do the same thing, then read the whole first half.

next do the same with third quarter, then move on the the fourth quarter, then read the whole second half. finally you may or may not want to read the whole juzz once before moving on to the next one (depends on how much work it requires).....NOTE: if a juzz is super kutcha (i.e. weak, lots of places where you get stuck or mixed up) then try to read it a few days in a row (4 or 5) in addition to moving on to the next juzz. this is is because the repetition will help.

Inshallah you will notice that even a moderate amount of review before ramadan will surely (inshallah) help a great deal with taraweeh during ramadan. or at least this is what i have noticed personally. whereas those ramadans that i entered without having done any intense review before hand i has to spend more time reviewing during ramadan, it was stressfull, and i lacked confidence.

also something else to think about when you study something in advance for your exams (moderate amount of studying) it helps it stick better in your mind rather than simply cramping the night before an exam, the same can be said for taraweeh.

lastly as an added bonus:

during ramadan try to read whatever juzz quran section was covered that night in taraweeh on your own in tahajjud prayer. for example if hafiz A lead the first half of juzz 1 and you lead the second half then after you go home at night either when you get home or before suhoor offer 8 rakaats (or 4) of tahajudd and recite the entire juzz 1, as this will really help you keep everything in your mind and retain it better throughout the year in addition to allowing you to recite hafiz A's section in salah. quran that is recited in salah is superior to quran recited outside salah (in terms of merit/reward) and it also sticks better in your mind, or at least thats what ive been told by several people including my qari saab. this example of "post-exam studying" is effective for long term retention or so ive heard.

[HexcewlyRette]

in addition if you find that you have a lot of memorization zabar/zair/pesh mistakes etc. then listen to the tilawah of your favorite reciter (from taraweeh not Abdul Basit style qirat) - i recommend Shuraim but to each their own - and read the quran while listening tot he reciter go over the juzz. sync your reading with the reciter's. anytime you notice a mistake (i.e. the reciter's recition was differen tform yours immediately check the physical copy of the quran in your hand and circle the part you "memorized wrong" with a pencil. make the mark or circle super obvious so that it glares at you in the face everytime you open that page.

then pause your ipod/cd player (or cassette player if your that old school) and then proceed to repeat the ayah or section of the ayat 5+ times correctly. then resume the audio and continue on. in the future whenever you encounter that page your pencil mark will ensure that you never forget that you have a mistake on that page and inshallah during taraweeh you will not forget to not make that mistake as you've made pencil mark/circle in the quran copy and have also made a mental note in your head.

6 months, one year or two years down the line when you never ever ever make a particular mistake anymore (i.e. you have "overwritten" that mistake) you may proceed to erase the pencil mark for that particular mistake.

[PristisoliTer]

I think your friend is kind of Ahle Hadeeth people ( Salafi )
Because they also say we have to follow Quran only and sahi hadees but actually they don't they miss guide people regarding Hadeeth and 4 Imam.

My advise is do Dua for Him take him to Ulema Kiram and clear his misunderstanding regarding 4 Imam and Hadeeth

Salam,
Brother I don't think he is Salafi at all and most Salafis I know (from my area at least) follow hadith (at least these are ones who aren't very extreme). Honestly the biggest difference i see in Salafis is they are just more strict on following certain sunnahs which is positive, but also give takfir and say something is bidaa too much, which is a negative. My old friend is just a "muslim" by name if anything if you saw him you would think he is American its not like he even has a beard.

[PristisoliTer]

Salam

If I understand your query correctly, this is the course of action I suggest:

do (at least) two khattams before Ramadan. Read every Juzz once (in each khattam) but if you find some that are weaker than others then read those more than once using a divide and conquer approach:

say juzz 1 is easy so just read it once. however juzz 2 is kutcha (weak) so read the first qaurter once, twice, or thrice (as many times as you need) and then move on to the next quarter and do the same thing, then read the whole first half.

next do the same with third quarter, then move on the the fourth quarter, then read the whole second half. finally you may or may not want to read the whole juzz once before moving on to the next one (depends on how much work it requires).....NOTE: if a juzz is super kutcha (i.e. weak, lots of places where you get stuck or mixed up) then try to read it a few days in a row (4 or 5) in addition to moving on to the next juzz. this is is because the repetition will help.

Inshallah you will notice that even a moderate amount of review before ramadan will surely (inshallah) help a great deal with taraweeh during ramadan. or at least this is what i have noticed personally. whereas those ramadans that i entered without having done any intense review before hand i has to spend more time reviewing during ramadan, it was stressfull, and i lacked confidence.

also something else to think about when you study something in advance for your exams (moderate amount of studying) it helps it stick better in your mind rather than simply cramping the night before an exam, the same can be said for taraweeh.

lastly as an added bonus:

during ramadan try to read whatever juzz quran section was covered that night in taraweeh on your own in tahajjud prayer. for example if hafiz A lead the first half of juzz 1 and you lead the second half then after you go home at night either when you get home or before suhoor offer 8 rakaats (or 4) of tahajudd and recite the entire juzz 1, as this will really help you keep everything in your mind and retain it better throughout the year in addition to allowing you to recite hafiz A's section in salah. quran that is recited in salah is superior to quran recited outside salah (in terms of merit/reward) and it also sticks better in your mind, or at least thats what ive been told by several people including my qari saab. this example of "post-exam studying" is effective for long term retention or so ive heard.

mashAllah

[MilenaMKB]

Rejecting Hadith is the way of the Munafiq.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46wohIzWQSI