[Bletlemof]

Does anyone know how many times the stoning of adulterers was carried out in Islamic history?

I have heard it was very rare indeed, and Rasullulah salala ho alayhi wasalam wanted people who confessed to him about it, to keep it between themselves and Allah subhana wata ala and to do tawba. We by contrast seem to want to kill people first, we talk about this as if it is one of the important fundamentals of the deen, we have been misled by the kuffar into discussing these issues as framed by them...they accuse, we defend endlessly, in the end we make it appear as if Islam is only about punishment for sexual crimes, while the much bigger crime of riba goes on everyday in front of our eyes and very few people will speak about this crime and its punishment very often.

brother there is a difference between defending the existence of the hudood and wishing its implementation on everyone. Noone here is saying it should be thrashed out left right and centre, only that totally denying it is denying authentic hadeeth in order to palcate the non muslims. I dont think anyone will disagree with you that if the conditions are implemented properly, it will pretty much never be implemented

[Bletlemof]

This has lowered my oppinion of imran hossein.

Assad is a kafir and needs to be removed from syria, simple as

[Ayyfjicg]

Don't listen to the opinions of the scholars on politics, I've yet to see one whose political opinions aren't an embarrassment or even worse. The days when our scholars knew about politics are long gone, until those days return I won't listen to any of their political opinions.

[JesikaFclq]

This is regarding MUSLIM RULERS, not about KUFFAR RULERS.
As explained in pretty any Islamic manual.

Alawis are kuffar.



There are Mujahidin fighting in Syria, and not for democracy.



Asad is not just a "tyrant", he's a KAFIR.

I agree, but why rebel now, of all times? And what is their reason? I doubt any good reason can be found, and nothing good has come of their rebellions. Democracy is not a good enough reason, and I doubt the average illiterate egyptian knows what democracy actually is, his conception of democracy probably revolves around money; he equates it with western money and freedom, and this freedom is not freedom from oppression, but freedom to do what he wants. These people think they will be rich like white people by having a democracy, ha! That's all they want, white people money, to be modern, western. Even the isalmic party, the muslim brotherhood, its hardly islamic. It is modernist.

Look at libya, gaddafi took his countrymen from living in tents, by providing them all with housing, and he paid them to go study abroad as well. Now look at it, the west has control of all its oil, and its a wartorn hellhole.

Nothing good has come of their insurrections, they should have waited and been patient, prayed for a better ruler as people did in the past. But you know people don't even pray these days, they just sit in internet cafes, or sit around drinking tea and smoking shisha, and they have the audacity to call for "democracy." What was the result, social chaos, many people dead, women raped, and more people becoming refugees...

[Quiniacab]

Many people are rebelling because of the economic hardships that have occurred recently both in the west and the rest of the world. Prices of food and other necessities have risen greatly and at the same time the means of earning a living have been greatly curtailed, with massive amounts of bribes and or bureaucratic hoops to jump through...these things eventually lead to explosions...the last straw that breaks the camels back as it were. These things may even be 'engineered' by outside forces.

See AYM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allianc...outh_Movements

I agree, but why rebel now, of all times? And what is their reason? I doubt any good reason can be found, and nothing good has come of their rebellions. Democracy is not a good enough reason, and I doubt the average illiterate egyptian knows what democracy actually is, his conception of democracy probably revolves around money; he equates it with western money and freedom, and this freedom is not freedom from oppression, but freedom to do what he wants. These people think they will be rich like white people by having a democracy, ha! That's all they want, white people money, to be modern, western. Even the isalmic party, the muslim brotherhood, its hardly islamic. It is modernist.

Look at libya, gaddafi took his countrymen from living in tents, by providing them all with housing, and he paid them to go study abroad as well. Now look at it, the west has control of all its oil, and its a wartorn hellhole.

Nothing good has come of their insurrections, they should have waited and been patient, prayed for a better ruler as people did in the past. But you know people don't even pray these days, they just sit in internet cafes, or sit around drinking tea and smoking shisha, and they have the audacity to call for "democracy." What was the result, social chaos, many people dead, women raped, and more people becoming refugees...

[Theorsell]

"Opposition are terrorists". What an evil thing to say SubhanAllah! May Allah rectify our condition

[Arr34ston]

Subahanallah, I used to listen his lectures but quite shocked that he accuses the oppressed Sunni-majority people in Syria as 'terrorists'.

He speaks very often about 'internal eyes' or 'spiritual eyes', however, it seems that he himself is blinded by the narrow sectarianism as
he has a soft corner for the Rafidi shias at the expense ahle sunnah. In a siting with Dr. Israr (ra), he (Imran Hosein) has spoken positive about satanic revolution in Iran and its leader devil Khomeini.

He has tons of lectures about Dajjal but he himself fails to identify that Butcher al-Kalb of Syria is a Dajjal and Qaddafi of Libya was a Dajjal. Bashar al-Kalb wants to be worshiped and so did Qaddafi.

See the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bllV6yY64G0&sns=fb

May Allah save us from the misguidance of such 'scholar'

It is million times better to support khomenei et al than supporting the tribes and well-wishers of pigs and monkeys. Ihdinas siratoal MustaQim. Siratoal lajina an amta alaihim. GAIRIL MAGDUBE ALAIHIM WALAD DOALLEEN. AMIN.

[Arr34ston]

"The sign of the Mahdi is that the Turks will sweep down upon you, and your khalifah who gathers wealth will die and be succeeded by a weak man who will be deposed two years after his bay'ah, and the western part of the masjid of Damascus will collapse into the earth, and three men [i.e. rulers or leaders] will arise in ash-Sham, and the people of al-Maghrib will come out to Egypt. All of that is the sign of the Sufyani." from Al arf al wardi by Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti (Rah...)

[Arr34ston]

"When the turn of Banul-'Abbas comes, and the people of the black banners tie their horses to the olive-trees of ash-Sham, and Allah destroys for them al-As'hab [i.e. the man with red hair mixed with grey] and the majority of his household at their hands, until there remains no Umawi from them except the one who flees or goes into hiding, and when the two branches of Banu Ja'far and Banul-'Abbas fall, and the son of the eater of livers [i.e. Hind bint 'Utbah, Abu Sufyan's wife] sits on the minbar of Damascus, and the Berbers come out to the center of ash-Sham, then that is the sign of the coming of the Mahdi." from Al arf al wardi by Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti (Rah...)

[Arr34ston]

"The Mahdi will not come until the Sufyani rules over its forests [i.e. over the forests of ash-Sham]." from Al arf al wardi by Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti (Rah...)

[DuePew]

It is million times better to support khomenei et al than supporting the tribes and well-wishers of pigs and monkeys. Ihdinas siratoal MustaQim. Siratoal lajina an amta alaihim. GAIRIL MAGDUBE ALAIHIM WALAD DOALLEEN. AMIN.

Are you implying that people here support 'the tribes and well-wishers of pigs and monkeys' ?

Care to explain? If 'the tribes and well-wishers of pigs and monkeys' means secular 'sunni' kings/leaders then we are furthest from them.

The different between secular 'sunni' kings/leaders and the Iranian rafidi rabbinical leadership is that the secular 'sunni' kings/leaders are open
allies of the Zionist/west but the rafidi leadership is in secret alliance with the Zionist/west.

Let us see what kind of alliance does crypto-jewish cult called rafida-shiaism has with its Zionist coreligionist.

Iran in alliance with the crusaders:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=METySbLItro

Iran-US alliance:
The long bearded in guy in this video is not a wahabi, he is an Ashari/Maturidi in aqida.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5mEaOugzrI

Hizbullah are Isreali border guards:
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9IDgoblak

Hizbullah will disclose its alliance with Israel:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoT-JiOcYI0

Ayatullat: We are Zionist, Masonic Bastards and our followers are Kuffar:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0A62kZaNQ

Remember during Hizbullah's staged drama against Israel in 2006, Hizbullah's kosher rockets only targeted Arab Bedouins in Israel.

We are hearing since ages about the imminent attack on Iran from US, but this empty threat (deceptive disinformation) is yet to be materialized! Why should zionist
attack Iran, which is one of its allies. On the contrary, US and its allies occupied Iraq and handed to it Iran on a silver platter. They are still occupying Afghan and constantly bombing from air several other Sunni majority countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Why UN/West is not helping Syrian opposition but helped Libyan? Because Assad regime means security and stability for Israel. Did Asad regime ever fire a single rock/bullet towards Israel during its 40 plus years ruling? No. If the sunni majority takes control of syria, a quiet border across the Golan-heights is not guaranteed. Israel gets one-third of its water from the Golan-heights. Security of Israel is the red line to US/west. That is why they are not arming Syrian 'rebels'.

Asad regime itself is an ally of US/Israel. During the gulf war in 1991, Hafiz, in alliance with US, sent troops against Saddam. And US has been outsourcing tortures and sending 'radical' Muslims in Asad's dungeon. Some of the proofs are here:

US tells Turkey to back off Syria:

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http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=378866

Syrian President Assad Regarded As a ‘Reformer,’ Clinton Says:

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/syrian-president-assad-regarded-reformer-clinton-says

'Assad has been very generous with me’, Sen. John Kerry :
A regular visitor to Damascus is chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), who has met with Assad at least six times, most recently last November. Kerry was a strong supporter of the Obama administration’s decision to re-engage the Assad regime and to send an ambassador to Damascus for the first time in five years. He has also taken an interest in prodding Syria and Israel towards peace talks. IDF Chief: Israel ready to absorb Syrian Alawi refugees.

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http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/israel-preparing-accept-syrian-alawi-refugees

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-chief-israel-ready-to-absorb-some-syria-refugees-once-assad-falls-1.406487

Binyamin Netanyahu attacks Arab spring uprisings:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/israel-netanyahu-attacks-arab-spring

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

[wllsqyuipknczx]

"The Mahdi will not come until the Sufyani rules over its forests [i.e. over the forests of ash-Sham]." from Al arf al wardi by Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti (Rah...)

Tripolysunni said in another thread at some time about the sufyani being a fabrication, the original sufyani was yazeed and the shias made it up to dishonour the family of Abu Sufyan, Ma'awiyah.

[bomondus]

I agree, but why rebel now, of all times?

As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

When somebody sends an army of tanks and armied soldiers to put down a peaceful protest you have got pretty good reason to rebel and fight back.

[XzBZB2UV]

As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

When somebody sends an army of tanks and armied soldiers to put down a peaceful protest you have got pretty good reason to rebel and fight back.

Go and explain this to paranoid conspiracy theorists.... ;-)

[Arr34ston]

Are you implying that people here support 'the tribes and well-wishers of pigs and monkeys' ?

Assalamu alaikum. tribes of pigs and monkeys are well-known: yahuda wan nasara.. what i meant by well-wishers is najdi kingdoms...

The different between secular 'sunni' kings/leaders and the Iranian rafidi rabbinical leadership is that the secular 'sunni' kings/leaders are open allies of the Zionist/west but the rafidi leadership is in secret alliance with the Zionist/west.

May you swear in the name of ALLAH that what you have written is true? or you have just written to win a debate?? In my personal opinion what I feel is that I should remain silent for the time until Allah, Himself, brings the manifold proofs.... However, that time we may not have opportunity to repent or retract........In the mean time, May Allah increase our TAQWA to such level that it can discern truth from every falsehoods and blind fitnahs.

Let us see what kind of alliance does crypto-jewish cult called rafida-shiaism has with its Zionist coreligionist.

Iran in alliance with the crusaders:
Code:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=METySbLItro

Iran-US alliance:
The long bearded in guy in this video is not a wahabi, he is an Ashari/Maturidi in aqida.
Code:

Code

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5mEaOugzrI

Hizbullah are Isreali border guards:
Code:

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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9IDgoblak

Hizbullah will disclose its alliance with Israel:
Code:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoT-JiOcYI0

Ayatullat: We are Zionist, Masonic Bastards and our followers are Kuffar:
Code:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0A62kZaNQ

Remember during Hizbullah's staged drama against Israel in 2006, Hizbullah's kosher rockets only targeted Arab Bedouins in Israel.

We are hearing since ages about the imminent attack on Iran from US, but this empty threat (deceptive disinformation) is yet to be materialized! Why should zionist attack Iran, which is one of its allies.

May you swear in the name of ALLAH that what you have written is true? or you have just written to win a debate?? In my personal opinion what I feel is that I should remain silent for the time until Allah, Himself, brings the manifold proofs.... In the mean time, May Allah increase our TAQWA to such level that it can discern truth from every falsehoods and blind fitnahs. Lastly, may Allah bless you..

They are still occupying Afghan and constantly bombing from air several other Sunni majority countries like Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia.

Yeah! even after that we firmly believe in yahuda wan nasara that they are helping us to establish a pure sunni Islamic government in Syria through the opposition. What an ill fate of this nation, Ya ALLAH???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why UN/West is not helping Syrian opposition but helped Libyan? Because Assad regime means security and stability for Israel. Did Asad regime ever fire a single rock/bullet towards Israel during its 40 plus years ruling? No. If the sunni majority takes control of syria, a quiet border across the Golan-heights is not guaranteed. Israel gets one-third of its water from the Golan-heights. Security of Israel is the red line to US/west. That is why they are not arming Syrian 'rebels'.

Asad regime itself is an ally of US/Israel. During the gulf war in 1991, Hafiz, in alliance with US, sent troops against Saddam. And US has been outsourcing tortures and sending 'radical' Muslims in Asad's dungeon. Some of the proofs are here:

US tells Turkey to back off Syria:

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http://www.nowlebanon.com/NewsArchiveDetails.aspx?ID=378866

Syrian President Assad Regarded As a ‘Reformer,’ Clinton Says:

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http://cnsnews.com/news/article/syrian-president-assad-regarded-reformer-clinton-says

'Assad has been very generous with me’, Sen. John Kerry :


IDF Chief: Israel ready to absorb Syrian Alawi refugees.

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http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/israel-preparing-accept-syrian-alawi-refugees

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http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/idf-chief-israel-ready-to-absorb-some-syria-refugees-once-assad-falls-1.406487

Thanks brother for sharing.............. It seems the full world including the Russian intelligence need to learn many things from your youtube links..

Binyamin Netanyahu attacks Arab spring uprisings:
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/nov/24/israel-netanyahu-attacks-arab-spring

Responsible muslims are not in against of every arab spring.............................

You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Allah will judge me at the END.. Could you please wait until then?

Assalamu alaikum

[JesikaFclq]

As-salamu 'alaikum wa rahmatu Allahi wa barakatuh

When somebody sends an army of tanks and armied soldiers to put down a peaceful protest you have got pretty good reason to rebel and fight back.

He wouldn't have done that had people not rebelled in the first place. So it is their own fault.

I don't buy the idea that its just because of harsh living conditions.

[cewIdeatovace]

Looks like quite a turn around by Sheikh. Just listen to the whole interview, why is he so bitter with Turks, especially the army that conquered Constantinople? Wasn't that a blessed army?

Why is he becoming so pro-Iran and Shia? How can a person who knows so much be blinded by what Iran has got going under the wraps?

Interesting times these are, not sure who to trust and who not to!

Back to the point of discussion on OP's thread .

I found Imran Hussain views interesting but in recent times stopped listening to him as most
of what he says sound going round and round with no specific objective.

I guess that is the nature of human knowledge. We can hardly make sense of the unseen
knowledge as humans are not supposed to do so .
Even from the prophetic sayings we have not successfully added together
to justify a logical scenario of sufiyani / mahdi or any of the other aspects.

The saying ' history repeats itself' is befitting of conspiracy theorists and end of days scholars like Imran Hussain. I am sure 100 / 200 years from now there will another Imran Hussain saying similar things under similar conditions .

bitter with Turks, especially the army that conquered Constantinople? The army that will conquer Constantinople for the second time ( similarly the one who will conquer Indian subcontinent ) will be with Mahdi as analyzed by many as the correct
interpretation of the Rasul Allah's prophecy .

[cewIdeatovace]

He wouldn't have done that had people not rebelled in the first place. So it is their own fault.

I don't buy the idea that its just because of harsh living conditions.

Regardless of all that is debated on various aspects , I find it hard to believe you do not think Asad as unfit to be the head of Syria .

[bomondus]

He wouldn't have done that had people not rebelled in the first place. So it is their own fault.

As-salamu 'alaikum

Explain that to the Syrian people and all of those who are being militarily and economically oppressed. You have a really sick attitude. I thought somebody should inform you of that.

[PemiaGefe]

As-salamu 'alaikum

Explain that to the Syrian people and all of those who are being militarily and economically oppressed. You have a really sick attitude. I thought somebody should inform you of that.