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Old 10-28-2011, 01:43 AM   #1
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Default Consultation - Should I create a Custom Dawah visitation app on iPhone and Android ?
Assalamulaikum.

I have been contemplating a productivity tool that will allow those engaged in the effort of dawah to kept records of the visits that they making in Dawah.

A simple scenario is when you are assigned a visitation to see a brother you go and make visit, give the brother some Dawah and say you will follow up the visit or provide some literature, drop an email, give them a video link, etc. However due to what ever reason you forget and are not reminded. Sometimes you need to share the details of that visit to another Di'e so they can follow up i.e. exchange address, numbers or give them an update.

So I propose an app that is a contact management tool which allows the basic recording of personal details, notes and a map to log address details [longitude and latitude for mapping] and to do. A share feature could allow those details to be passed on if some else has this app also.

Thus you could have a historic time line of those visits, notes and also tasks fullfilled.

Advanced features that can be incorporate in feature versions is access to books and possibly even fatwas. So answers to questions can be provided on the spot.

Your thoughts?
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:02 AM   #2
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Brainstorming session

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Old 10-28-2011, 02:20 AM   #3
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JazakAllah interesting. So have a menu item visible on the bottom of the page as icons.

Items are:

1. calender
2. Map
3. List
4. Todo
5. Resources

The map feature needs to be integrated as part of the contact details or possibly with location markers that link back to a specific person/house and opens up details about that location i.e. the marker has a hover with a tip 'lasted visited xx/xx/xxxx' and clicking will open up to a notes page.

Resources could allow the access of various online resources or even access to kitabs or fatwas. Possibly even training material for a di'e.
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Old 10-28-2011, 02:38 AM   #4
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The map feature needs to be integrated as part of the contact details or possibly with location markers that link back to a specific person/house and opens up details about that location i.e. the marker has a hover with a tip 'lasted visited xx/xx/xxxx' and clicking will open up to a notes page.

Resources could allow the access of various online resources or even access to kitabs or fatwas. Possibly even training material for a di'e.
Yea perhaps its better to integrate the map feature with list. List would be the persons to whom dawah is being done.

I have never done active dawah in my life, so input from actual da'ee would be very useful.

Some more ideas. I have got an iphone, so basically all the following is basically what most apps have, nothing new. lol.

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Old 10-28-2011, 04:35 AM   #5
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Yea perhaps its better to integrate the map feature with list. List would be the persons to whom dawah is being done.

I have never done active dawah in my life, so input from actual da'ee would be very useful.

Some more ideas. I have got an iphone, so basically all the following is basically what most apps have, nothing new. lol.

Interesting, keep it coming....
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Old 10-28-2011, 01:00 PM   #6
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It is a wonderful idea. May Allah SWT help you in this.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:04 PM   #7
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its a very good idea, but dont expect the elders of tabligh to be very happy about it.

recently got told by a purana sathi friend that even now they are not allowed to email karguzaris and reports from nizamuddin mashwera. they still have to use fax machines (which essentially does the same job as email anyway), probably because thats how it has been done for a long time.

for some reason they seem to be against using new methods. irony is that even using fax machines was a new method at one time.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:27 PM   #8
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for some reason they seem to be against using new methods.
Akhi.

Perhaps the elders must be doing it with some wisdom behind it.

Bro, i came across an interesting point recently in a lecture video. During the early Ottaman rule there was fatwa against printing Quran in the printing press. I was like, why in the world is that? But the reason behind it was the Alims of that time thought it was disrespectful to actually 'slam' the words of the Quran into the paper. Old printing press worked like that, the block pressed on the paper very fast. The Quran was hand written by calligraphers with care in those times. So that was their wisdom behind the fatwa.



As for the topic at hand, we need more Ideas from tableegh brothers and people engaged in active Dawah.
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Old 10-28-2011, 05:33 PM   #9
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Akhi.

Perhaps the elders must be doing it with some wisdom behind it.

Bro, i came across an interesting point recently in a lecture video. During the early Ottaman rule there was fatwa against printing Quran in the printing press. I was like, why in the world is that? But the reason behind it was the Alims of that time thought it was disrespectful to actually 'slam' the words of the Quran into the paper. Old printing press worked like that, the block pressed on the paper very fast. The Quran was hand written by calligraphers with care in those times. So that was their wisdom behind the fatwa.



As for the topic at hand, we need more Ideas from tableegh brothers and people engaged in active Dawah.
after thinking about a little i think you are right. imagining going into an internet cafe to email a karguzari. then once it has been sent you think hmmm let me see whats happening on sunniforum. then you get involved in a heated debate. then someone posts a video to prove their point. so you look for a video on youtube to prove your point. then you click on related videos..........

btw the tablighi elders say mobiles, especially smartphones should not be taken in jamaat at all.
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Old 10-28-2011, 06:30 PM   #10
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We should try to stick to the traditional approach. Its the best because Sahaba have done that , our elders have done that.
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Old 10-28-2011, 08:37 PM   #11
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Anyone have any suggestions for the app?
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Old 10-28-2011, 09:06 PM   #12
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We should try to stick to the traditional approach. Its the best because Sahaba have done that , our elders have done that.


the sahaba and the Prophet used to use new technology. example.....the use of the trebuchet when they attacked taif after the fatah of makkah.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:17 PM   #13
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the sahaba and the Prophet used to use new technology. example.....the use of the trebuchet when they attacked taif after the fatah of makkah.
Thats a totally different scenario. In wars, ofcourse theres a choice. But for dawah , the most effective approach is the traditional one.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:35 PM   #14
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But for dawah , the most effective approach is the traditional one.


Hazratjiiiiiiiiii.... pleej let gabriel ji make an aaapp. pleeej.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:43 PM   #15
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Thats a totally different scenario. In wars, ofcourse theres a choice. But for dawah , the most effective approach is the traditional one.
Dear Brother, whats the difference btw da'wah and jihad in regards to technology?
They are both pillars of deen, to strengthen and perpetrate the glory of Islam.
Returning to dawah, can we imagine giving a bayaan without a mic in an ijtima'?
And how about flying on aeroplanes; even criminals use them! Now do we abandon flying because wrongdoers are on board?

The strange part is Tableeghis use all the technologies for personal needs, some even take photographs at work. But when it comes to the duration of tableegh, a radically dfferent approach is adopted. I am not saying pictures are allowed, but it just shows how some people lead double lives when inside v outside jamaat.(Myself included most certainly). Now, pls dont get angry as I myself have been following the local saathis for ~ 3 yrs alrd.

In any case, tableegh is one way of dawah, but most certainly not the only.

So the brother is asking a general question and it should be answered in that context, and I believe we should refrain from shaping it around tableeghi rules.

In any case, its a good idea to be efficient and organised, obviously we dont think we get rewarded for being disorganised and unproductive!

Sorry for any harshness, but some things in jamaat leave me extremely puzzled.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:46 PM   #16
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So the brother is asking a general question and it should be answered in that context, and I believe we should refrain from shaping it around tableeghi rules.

In any case, its a good idea to be efficient and organised, obviously we dont think we get rewarded for being disorganised and unproductive!
akhi.

My brain is kinda stuck at the moment. No ideas coming out. Any ideas what all to incorporate into the app?


Edit: Come on everybody, pour some ideas in. It would be like Sadaqa Jarriyya. Lots of potential.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:51 PM   #17
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akhi.

My brain is kinda stuck at the moment. No ideas coming out. Any ideas what all to incorporate into the app?


Edit: Come on everybody, pour some ideas in. It would be like Sadaqa Jarriyya. Lots of potential.
Wa'alaikum salaam warahmatullah.

Yeah mine too...

Inshaa Allah everybody start thinking then start posting...
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:52 PM   #18
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AS long as its not part of the tableeghi tarteeb , its sounds good.
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:53 PM   #19
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Some points from the 1st page: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post686444
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Old 10-28-2011, 10:53 PM   #20
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Hazratjiiiiiiiiii.... pleej let gabriel ji make an aaapp. pleeej.
He wont stop even if i tell him to stop!
Anyway , i dont mind at all. As in now, what are you looking for ...ideas for what the app will do?
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