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Old 01-28-2012, 10:58 PM   #1
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Default Definitions...for the following..


i noticed.. since couple of months it seemed youths/muslim reverts/non-muslims.. online/offline. confused about some terminolgies found in muslim community so i am looking for Authentic definitions for the followings..

Islam
Muslim

Sunni
Shia
Madhab
hanafi
shafaii
hanbali
maliki
salafi
ahlehadith
Tableeghi
jamati islami
jamati muslemeen
deobandi
barelwi
wahabi

..to be contd. if find more..

but for now.. i need Authentic definitions for these since i want to compile these and put it in the local libraries for references so that it might help youths/revert mulsims/non-muslims to educate themselves about these terminologies.
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:10 AM   #2
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i noticed.. since couple of months it seemed youths/muslim reverts/non-muslims.. online/offline. confused about some terminolgies found in muslim community so i am looking for Authentic definitions for the followings..

Islam
Submit or surrender oneself to the Almighty Allah
Muslim
A person who submitts himself to Allah
Sunni
Muslim who believe in the Holy Quran, Ahadeeth, and that all sahaba, through whom Islam is transmitted to us are rightous
Shia
who believe that after nubuwwat, immamate was started and imam from ahle bait, masoom and aalim ul ghaib
Madhab
School of thought consisted of principles derived by jurists and classical scholars
hanafi
who follow hanafi school of thought
shafaii
who follow shafi school of thought
hanbali
who follow hanbli school of thought
maliki
who follow maliki school of thought
salafi
who claim to follow salaf and not follow one of the 4 established school of thought
ahlehadith
who believe to follow a school of thought is shirk
Tableeghi
move away in the path of Allah in jamaat to remind muslims their duties
jamati islami
believe islamic system can be brought democratically
jamati muslemeen
who call all the above and below groups and salaf as deviants.
deobandi
who studied from Darul uloom deoband or student its graduates
barelwi
believe that Prophet S.A.W.W is hazir o nazir(omni present), aalim ul ghaib, mukhtar e kul (possess all powers) and non-bashar.
wahabi
follower of Muhammad bin Abdul wahab, who considered all mushriks except themselves.

..to be contd. if find more..

but for now.. i need Authentic definitions for these since i want to compile these and put it in the local libraries for references so that it might help youths/revert m[/COLOR]ulsims/non-muslims to educate themselves about these terminologies.
i dont know these are Authentic or not
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Old 01-29-2012, 01:37 AM   #3
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Salam 'Aleykum,

There was a respectable encyclopedia on sects/groups/schools, maybe you guys can refer to that.
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Old 01-29-2012, 03:22 AM   #4
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i need to add two more to the above list..

sufi
naqshbandi

to be contd..if found more..
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Old 01-29-2012, 10:30 PM   #5
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one more to add on the above list..


AhleQuranist


to be contd..
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Old 02-02-2012, 11:55 PM   #6
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i dont know these are Authentic or not


katheeran katheera for this quality effort!

seems to be authentic though..
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:35 AM   #7
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i noticed.. since couple of months it seemed youths/muslim reverts/non-muslims.. online/offline. confused about some terminolgies found in muslim community so i am looking for Authentic definitions for the followings..

Islam
Muslim
Sunni
Shia
Madhab
hanafi
shafaii
hanbali
maliki
salafi
arab or non-arab ghair muqallids. a very general term for a ghair muqallid.may or may not be athari. but definitive feature is they do not do taqlid of one imam. other characteristics may vary region-wise
ahlehadith
indo-pak ghair muqallids. very aggressive. do not believe there is a necessity for fiqh and ahadith to be separate. they are NOT athari
Tableeghi
jamati islami
their ideology is considered deviant by ulema-e-haqq. brother umairel is correct about their political stance
jamati muslemeen
deobandi
barelwi
wahabi
arab salafis. they reject following one madhab in totality but their 'fiqh' is whatever coincides from the madhabs with sahih ahadith. lot of emphasis on hafiz ibn e taymiyyah, sheikh albani and on bidah and shirk. they DO NOT consider taqlid to be haram or shirk
..to be contd. if find more..

but for now.. i need Authentic definitions for these since i want to compile these and put it in the local libraries for references so that it might help youths/revert mulsims/non-muslims to educate themselves about these terminologies.
aoa,
made some additons/corrections to brother umairel's post.
Allahualam in fact
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:37 AM   #8
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i dont know these are Authentic or not
aoa,
ur incorrect on najdis. the definition ive adopted is from their own books and confirmed by a deobandi alim manzoor noumani saheb
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:46 AM   #9
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aoa,
made some additons/corrections to brother umairel's post.
Allahualam in fact




@mh16388..i have one question off-topic..it seems u changed madhab from maliki to hanafi..

coreect me if i am wrong.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:56 AM   #10
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Assalamu alaykum

Ahle-Quranist = The group which rejects the Ahadeeth and fiqh of Imams

Reason:

They claim Quran only is protected by Allah SWT.

Salafi, Ahle-Hadeeth, wahabi, jamaatul muslimeen = groups which reject the fiqh of Imams ( Reason: References are not provided by the Imams).


..if they follow Quran..then we should ask them..if they are following the ayat ...Wa atiullaha-wa atiurrasul[follow Allah swt. and his Rasool]

And they should also know that Deen is not complete without hadeeth...
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..if they follow Quran..then we should ask them..if they are following the ayat ...Wa atiullaha-wa atiurrasul[follow Allah swt. and his Rasool]

And they should also know that Deen is not complete without hadeeth...
السلام عليكم

Quranists are illogical and diseased so don't expect any good answer to your question.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:18 AM   #12
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@mh16388..i have one question off-topic..it seems u changed madhab from maliki to hanafi..

coreect me if i am wrong.
hanbali to hanafi. not out of disrespect tho. didnt have ulema available to me
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:26 AM   #13
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hanbali to hanafi. not out of disrespect tho. didnt have ulema available to me


for clarification..
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:32 AM   #14
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السلام عليكم

Quranists are illogical and diseased so don't expect any good answer to your question.


don't be so hateful and disrespectful to Quranists...since they read Quran so u should be respecting them..

May Allah swt. forgive our sins..aameen!
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:22 PM   #15
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aoa,
ur incorrect on najdis. the definition ive adopted is from their own books and confirmed by a deobandi alim manzoor noumani saheb
jazakallah brother for correction.
i think no official deodandi stance about najdi/wahabis can be determined, opinions vary ulema to ulema among deobandis regarding them.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:27 PM   #16
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one more to add on the above list..


AhleQuranist


to be contd..
Qur'anist or Ahl Qur'an = Actually the right term is munkireen-e-hadith because their actual characteristic is rejection of the Prophetic hadith and through that, the rejection of Muhammad himself. Kafir group.
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Old 02-03-2012, 01:34 PM   #17
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don't be so hateful and disrespectful to Quranists...since they read Quran so u should be respecting them..

May Allah swt. forgive our sins..aameen!

"Whoever innovates or accomodates an innovator, then upon him is the curse of Allah, His angels and the whole of mankind." Bukhari and Muslim.
The innovator here is the innovator in beliefs such as the Qur'anist you want us to respect.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:19 PM   #18
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Are Quranists found in indo-pak community..
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:30 PM   #19
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jazakallah brother for correction.
i think no official deodandi stance about najdi/wahabis can be determined, opinions vary ulema to ulema among deobandis regarding them.
no they dont. what i quote from is an officially approved book written at the behest of qari tayyab. the book basically says those who look down upon the sheikh are wrong and quotes a particular prominent scholar from deoband who changed his stance after reading the sheikh's books. however it is believed that the sheikh's followers over the ages developed an incorrect attitude towards other groups and also degenerated. Allahualam.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:31 PM   #20
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Are Quranists found in indo-pak community..
yes
another color to this deviancy is the pervezi group
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