[mobbemeatiedy]

Salaam,

I had known a Muslim friend for a short while and after investigating why he said such weird things like "Islam was spread by the sword" and facing the Qibla Southeast when he was suppose to face Northeast (since we are located in Washington D.C) and came to find some shocking things about his beliefs that I would like my brothers and sisters to be aware of. I ask Allah swt to keep us on the straight path.


In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger.

Dear sister in Islam, we would like to thank you for the great confidence you place in us, and we implore Allah Almighty to help us serve His cause and render our work for His Sake.

We have visited the site you mentioned in your question and we came to the conclusion that this site is maily concerned with publishing information and articles about Al-Ahbash. Here, we will try our best to brief you on Al-Ahbash sect as well as their dogmas and beliefs by citing the following:

"Al-Ahbash is a stray sect that follows `Abdullah ibn Al-Habashi. It has recently appeared in Lebanon taking advantage of the ignorance and poverty that resulted from the Lebanese civil war. It calls for the revival of the approaches of the advocates of the science of Kalam (theology), Sufis, and the Batiniyyah, with the aim of corrupting the Islamic creed, fragmenting Muslims and distracting them from their main issues.

Establishment:

`Abdullah Al-Harari Al-Habashi is `Abdullah ibn Muhammad Ash-Shybi Al-`Abdary by lineage, and is called Al-Harary because he comes from the city of Harar in Abyssinya (Al-Habashah). He came to Lebanon in 1950 after he incited sedition against Muslims there. He joined hands with the ruler of Indragy , the son in law of Hilasilasy , against the Islamic schools for teaching Qur’an in the city of Harar in 1376 AH/1940 CE causing what is known as the sedition of the Kolob country which resulted in sentencing the manager of the schools to twenty three years of imprisonment then he was exiled to Joury county and died there.

Moreover, the rest of the Sheikhs and callers to Islam fell in the hands of Hilasilasy who humiliated them and drove them to flee to Egypt and Saudi Arabia. That’s why `Abdullah Al-Harary was called ‘ the leader of the sedition”. Since he came to Lebanon he kept inciting sedition exactly as he used to do in his country and kept spreading his corrupt beliefs, insulting the Prophet’s Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) accusing `A'ishah, the mother of the believers (may Allah be pleased with her) of not following Allah’s orders in addition to issuing wrongful fatwas.

Al-Habashi has recently succeeded in attracting a large group of insolent fanatics who do not consider anyone as a Muslim unless he declared his submission to their leader and his corrupt creed that includes the Batinyyah and the Rafidah. Moreover, they force themselves on people by going to their houses and insisting that they learn the Habashi creed.

Beliefs and dogmas:

Reading thoroughly all that has been issued by such sect, one would clearly see that they violate the principles of Islam and its main creed. Following are some of their beliefs:

1- Concerning creed, they follow the condemned school of Irja'. It is well known that the Islamic creed held by the Prophet’s Companions and their successors states that faith is a matter of declaring in words, believing in the heart and all this must be reflected in action for belief without practice and submission to Shari`ah has no place in Islam. However, according to them it is not necessary that faith be reflected in action and hence a person remains a believer even if he neglects all the pillars of Islam.
2- Such a sect consider it permissible to seek the help of the dead besides instead of that of Allah and this is clearly considered in the Qur'an and Sunnah as ascribing partners to Allah. They urge people to do so claiming that the dead get out from their graves to fulfill the requests of those who call upon them and then get back to the graves. Allah Almighty says: “They worship beside Allah that which neither hurteth them nor profiteth them, and they say: These are our intercessors with Allah.” (Yunus: 18)

3- They consider that the Qur'an is not the words of Allah but that of Gabriel.

4- They claim to follow the Shafi`i School in respect to fiqh and belief. However, they are, in fact, very far from the principles of the School of Imam ash-Shafi`i.

5- They claim that Allah has created the universe and sent the Messengers to humans for no purpose or wisdom and whoever attributes any of Allah's actions to the Divine Wisdom is a mushrik.

6- They abuse the Prophet’s Companions (may Allah be pleased with them all) particularly Mu`awiyah, `A'ishah, Khalid ibn al-Walid. They declared that Mu`awayh (may Allah be pleased with him) was not a true believer. In such case, they are similar to the Rafidah who also insult the Prophet’s Companions. [Muslims must abstain from discussing the relationship between the Prophet’s Companions and their disagreements. They must also recognize their role in promoting Islam and their being privileged with the Companionship of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). It is confirmed that Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "Do not abuse my Companions for if any one of you spent gold equal to Mountain Uhud (in Allah's Cause) it would not be equal to a mudd or even a half mudd spent by one of them."‏ Allah Almighty says: “And those who came (into the faith) after them say: Our Lord Forgive us and our brethren who were before us in the faith, and place not in our hearts any rancor toward those who believe. Our Lord! Thou art Full of Pity, Mercifl.” (Al-Hashr: 10)]

7- One of the most flagrant violations of this sect is their issuing of wrong fatwas that contradict the Qur'an and the Sunnah. For instance, they consider gambling with non-believers permissible in order to take away their money as long as this does not lead to sedition. Moreover, they consider robbing the harvest and the cattle of non-believers and permissible. They also consider it permissible to deal in Riba (interest) with non-Muslims, and to join lottery games. Moreover, one of their most obvious violations to the principles of religion is their declaration that it is permissible to look lustfully at women, on television or elsewhere, and also that intermingling between men and women without any restrictions is permissible. These are some examples of their weird fatwas that clearly contradict Shari`ah and consider all grave sins as permissible practices.

8- One of their mean ways of making Mulsims abstain from following the scholars of Islam is their belittling of their status, insulting them and labeling many of them as kuffar (non-Muslims). Among the scholars which they labeled as kuffar Ibn Taymiyyah, Adh-Dhahabi, Muhammad ibn Abdel-Wahhab, Sayyed Sabiq, Sayyed Qutb, etc."

Translated excerpts, with modifications, from Al-Mawsu`ah Al-Fiqhiyyah Al-Muyassarah fi Al-Adyan wal Madhahib Al-Mu`asirah.

In this context, we'd like to cite for you the following fatwa issued by the eminent Muslim scholar, Dr. `Ali Jum`ah, Professor of the Principles of Islamic Jurisprudence at Al-Azhar University:

“This sect follows `Abdullah Al-Harary Al-Habashi, and it has surface and deep levels. At the surface, this sect seems to adhere to the Shafi`i School of Jurisprudence, and to Imam Al-Ash`ari’s School as regards creed. However, at the deep level, their main intention is to corrupt the Muslim creed and incite sedition amongst the Muslim Ummah. Moreover, they are paid agents to the enemies of Islam.

After inciting sedition in Harar, `Abdullah Al-Habashi moved to Beirut where he started deceiving young men into joining his suspected group. He worked as an editor for publishers in Lebanon and started to cooperate with the Jews and their agents in South Lebanon. He started in the seventies to spread his corrupt thoughts and to declare many scholars as non-Muslims, especially Imam Ibn Taymiyyah , Imam Muhammad `Abdul Wahhab , the Hanbalis and all those who held different views from his under the pretext that they violate the principles of Imam Al-Ash`ari or what he has understood from the texts of the Shafi`is .

Moreover, he urged his followers to incite sedition wherever they go. For instance, they cause such a controversy concerning the direction of the Qiblah in America violating all the principles of modern science claiming that they are just innovations and rejecting substantial evidence. They caused the same problem in Japan.

In addition to causing a problem over their following other Muslims in prayers, the problem over food, the controversy over getting married to women belonging to other revealed religions and other issues that are controversial amongst Muslim scholars.

They hold strange deviant views that have never been expressed by any Muslim sect, group or movement. They declared that intermingling between men and women is permissible without any restrictions, and that Muslim leaders are not true believers and that it is permissible to cooperate with non-believers. They also once spread that their leader died then they declared that it was a rumor. In such a way, they made people detest them as they were always linked with sedition. Several Muslim authorities warned against such a sect including: the Islamic Research Academy at Al-Azhar, the General Authority for Research, Fatwas and the Islamic call and guidance in Saudi Arabia, the Higher Council for Fatwas in Northern America.

In order to continue deceiving people, they usually do not express their true views and intentions in the books or any of the publications that they issue. Even the books issued by their leader is quite ordinary and do not contain any of their aberrant views which is, in fact, part of their plan to deceive people and attract more followers. However, many of their followers repent and revert to the true path when they learn the truth about such sect."

Based on the aforementioned facts, we'd like to conclude with the following points:

1- The Ahbash group is a stray group that is not considered among main stream Muslims and they have to revert to the true path of the Companions and their successors, both in belief and in action.

2- It is not permissible to follow the fatwas of such sect.

3- They are not trustworthy and people must be warned against their dangerous corrupt views. Moreover, Muslims should advise the followers of such sect to revert to the true path.

Allah Almighty knows best. Source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/S...=1119503544180

See also: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.a...D=12879&CATE=1

[PyncGyncliacy]

I'm not in any way linked with Habashies (other than having spoken with a brother of them on a flight some years ago), but this article you posted is clearly biased and expressing pseudo-salafies misunderstandings toward some point that is shared by Ahl al-Sunnah.

Also, the link by Shaykh Gibril Fuad Haddad is very biased too, since GF Haddad's tariqa is "at war" with Habashies, who declared their Shaykh (Nazim) out of the fold of Islam.

A non-biased source would be more reliable to have a "neutral" view about them.

[mobbemeatiedy]

I'm not in any way linked with Habashies (other than having spoken with a brother of them on a flight some years ago), but this article you posted is clearly biased and expressing pseudo-salafies misunderstandings toward some point that is shared by Ahl al-Sunnah.

Also, the link by Shaykh Gibril Fuad Haddad is very biased too, since GF Haddad's tariqa is "at war" with Habashies, who declared their Shaykh (Nazim) out of the fold of Islam.

A non-biased source would be more reliable to have a "neutral" view about them.

Salaam,

Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims? He said "Islam was spread by the sword." He allowed some sisters to sing in his Islamic lectures??

Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light.

Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm

[PyncGyncliacy]

Salaam,

Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims?

dear brother.

As far as I know there is some ikhtilaf about the direction of the prayer in countries like Usa: the Mauritanian Ulama (about whose rank no one will object) have the same opinion of South-East direction.
I don't have idea about their proof, but we cannot deny this is not just an "Habashi strangeness", but a position who is shared by other one also, and has some Fiqhi backing.

Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light.

Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm

Brother, I repeat myself: I'm not here to "defend" the Habashies; personally I don't even agree with something of their approch, but from this to give harder judgements or spreading pseudo-salafi fatawa..

So, let's try being more cautious before expressing clear-cut statements backed only from some biased source (salafies that hate them for their (AICP) being Ash`ari-Shafi`i-Rifa`i Sufis and being very harsh against salafies, and Haqqanies for their (AICP) harsh denounce of Haqqani Shuyukh).

Again, there is a kind of "war" between Haqqanies and Habashies; try also reading what the latters say about the formers! ;-)

[www.forumsovetov.ru]

A sheikh whom I know and who is quite well known by many others, has also conveyed to me his disapproval of the Ahbaash and many of their strange ways. He, by the way, is not affiliated with Sheikh Nazim's tariqa.

One needs only to read the writings of their founder to see what they're about. If They even declared takfir of Sheikh Ramadan al-Buti (among other notable `ulemaa), whose credentials I'm sure no one here would dispute.

[loikrso]

Bismillah
Assalamu Alaykum,

Firstly, I am not affiliated with the Habashis. But i do object to lies being spread about the ulama. Secondly, Your friends statement does not necessarily represent the views of the late Shaykh Abdallah al-Harrari al-Habashi, may Allah have Mercy on him.

Objections like, Was Islam spread by the sword?
Well firstly, this seems to be the statement of your friend, and not Shaykh al-Harrari or any of his senior students. But objectively, what would the answer be to such a question? Undoubtedly, Yes! To a certain extent it was. And only those insecure in their own belief as Muslims would argue this point.

Regarding the Qibla issue, like sidi Umar Italy said, some of the Mauritanian ulama would agree here. So it's not necessarily a black and white issue. It might be that there would be a difference whether one is in the South or North of the States. I can't really comment. Articles floating around the internet often leave out their sources and evidences, which doesn't satisfy me and until then, i will consider it hearsay.

Shaykh Abdallah was a staunch (read: extreme) Ash'ari and a Rifa'i in suluk, with maybe some what of a narrow interpretation of tasawwuf. The main problem they seem to have is the issue of Takfir of the ulama.

The article objected to:

1. Irja! This is due to being an Ash'ari, and Wahhabis consider Ash'aris to be Murji'a.

2. Tawassul

3. While this matter seems a bit unclear, it is most likely that it means that the words as in that which composes of letters and sounds came to the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wassalam) from Sayyidna Jibr'il (as) and not from Allah (swt). But (many) Wahhabis believe that Allah (swt) speech is composed of letters and sounds. So once again, a clash with a classic Ash'ari understanding.

4. While i'm not sure exactly what Fiqh issues they are talking about, so i can't really comment. As the article doesn't clarify what they mean by that.

5. Can't comment.

6. From what i know Ashaykh stated that Mu'awiyah was a Baghi, and put forth his reasons for saying that, including the undisputably authentic narration, Ammar will be killed by the baghis. This is a view held by many of the Salaf, as testified to by Imam Ghazali, though he (like so many other Ash'aris) favoured the opinion of it being a Ijtihad mistake on Amir Mu'awiyahs side.

7. I can't comment on all of these things, especially since there's no sources (given) to back up such claims, but if they consider it Dar al-Harb, then also Hanafi ulama etc accept taking interest from Kuffar etc. So we must be cautious before we start accusing people or even raising suspicions.

8. Them criticising ulama and going into Takfir of some. It may be that they were right in some and wrong in others. But Shaykh Abdallah had reached high levels of knowledge and understanding, and may Allah Forgive him if he erred.

It seems as if they have done Takfir of Shaykh al-Buti because according to them he said what is not permissible to say in regards to Allah (swt). So let us assume that Shaykh al-Harrari did this with pure intentions to defend the pure Aqidah of Ahl al-Sunnah. And before one has looked at the statements of the honourable Shaykh al-Buti, it's not befitting to comment on whether Shaykh Abdullah al-Harrari's objections were justified or not. Fairness is the key!


As for Shaykh Ali Jummah, i don't know his ties to Ashaykh. Once again fairness is the key, and it's not like Shaykh Jummah is flawless and exempt from criticism himself.

wassalam

[mxzjxluwst]

This is what Sidi Hammoudeh of the Ma'rifah Forum has to say about them...


Sidi Yahya, please note that I have also used the term "Takfiri Manhaj" and this path of theirs includes much more than this strange notion that one can become a disbeliever by denying or failing to affirm the alleged disbelief of another Muslim; it also includes amongst other things the general ease in declaring someone a disbeliever, focussing on one particular field for this, constantly increasing in their targets, going by the 'broken-record' rhetoric, having hatred of fellow Muslims and the fanatic hunt for faults with others; you will find these characteristics amongst any of the contemporary Takfiri methods. Shaykh Gibril mentions: "They are the same brand of insipid Kharijites as their arch-enemies the Wahhabis." The result of this Manhaj is the Takfir and Tadlil of several Tariqa's and individual scholars. I mentioned this elsewhere before, and already referred to it in this thread:

QUOTE (Hamoudeh @ Oct 5 2008, 09:18 PM) *
... and they include Shaykh Sa`id Foudah, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf, the entire Naqshbandi Haqqani Tariqa of Shaykh Nazim al-Qubrusi [including Shaykh Gibril Haddad and Shaykh Hisham Kabbani], the entire Shadhili Tariqa of Shaykh Ahmad al-`Alawi [including Shaykh Muhammad al-Hashimi, Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir `Isa, Shaykh Ahmad Jami, Shaykh `Abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri, Shaykh Nuh Keller, Shaykh Faraz Rabbani, Shaykh Abu Bakr Sirajuddin and Shaykh `Abd al-Qadir al-Sufi and his Murabitun], the entire Tijani Tariqa – with ‘perhaps’ the exception of Shaykh Ahmad Tijani himself – the Bralewis, the Deobandis, yes even someone like `Amr Khalid!

I mentioned this in the context of the discussion concerning the use of the terms `illa and sabab in reference to Allah, which is one point for which they have openly declared Shaykh Muhammad Sa`id Ramadan al-Buti a disbeliever.

كيف يجرؤ من يدعي الإسلام أن يسمي الله علة
http://www.ahlussunah.org/docs/Rudoo.../Article_1.htm

However, I have not seen declaring anyone else a disbeliever on account of this view [such as Shaykh Nuh `Ali al-Quda], or even raised the topic or criticized anyone who teaches - such as major Islamic institutions in Syria -, recommends or even praises the Shaykh's book in which the relevant expressions are found - such as Shaykh Sa`id Foudah -, calling him "Ghazali of the Age" for it - such as Shaykh Wahba al-Zuhayli. They claim to respect Mulla Ramadan, yet are silent on the fact that he was alive and well when his son wrote this book, and that the topic was in fact discussed between them and others. In reality, the Ahbash hate Shaykh al-Buti so much that they are willing to take every possible opportunity to attack him, and him only. That is why they have written an entire book against him, covering a number of bizarre topics and accusations:

محمد سعيد رمضان البوطي في ميزان الشريعة
http://www.sunna.info/books/bouti.php

Indeed, there is no doubt the Ahbash have declared Shaykh al-Buti a disbeliever and they make no secret of it. One of their students going by the name "Zahhaad" - while attacking Shaykh Faraz, Shaykh Nuh and the Shadhili Tariqa - admits this without any hesitation, stating:

QUOTE
Faraz said: “They declare people they disagree with kafir. This includes many scholars whose greatness this Ummah acknowledges, such as Shaykh Muhammad Sa`id Ramadan al-Buti.” … As for Muhammad Sa’id Ramadan al-Buti, then whoever thought to acknowledge that he is great scholar made a major error. [b]The reason that the Habashis declare him kafir is because he contradicted the Qur’an, the Sunnah and the Ijma^ of the scholars of Islam. Amongst his most ugly strayings is his saying about Allah that He is “al-^Illah al-Waheedah al-Kubraa al-Kaminah” ...

Not only is this a very clear example of the result of their Takfiri Manhaj, it is also the first answer to the question of who, what, where; and, it is also something that has been around on the forum for over a half year, so much for the need of proof and details. This alone is more than enough for me, and though I have personal reasons for this, I believe that the disgusting way the Ahbash are treating one of the greatest living scholars of our times should be enough for everyone else as well. The fact that all the deviants gather in their hatred of him should be a warning of its own, as should the love he receives from the righteous and knowledgeable ones be. At the very least, it should be a sign that more is to come, and there certainly are many others they have treated this way - as Shaykh al-Buti himself points out. So, let's go through the rest of the Habashi blacklist.

[VioletttaJosetta]

There should not be any doubt that the Ahbash are deviants. They are known for making takfir upon various personalities of Islam, among others Ibn Taymiyyah, Muhammad ibn Abd Wahhab, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, etc. If that is not "deviancy", I certainly do not know what is!

[DialOne]

I have a friend - who's habashi she prays southeast. she's part of an organization called aicp. their website is : aicp.org Are they considered muslims because their creed is Ashari?

[Eromaveabeara]

Salaam,

Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims? He said "Islam was spread by the sword." He allowed some sisters to sing in his Islamic lectures??

Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light.

Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm

I'm Lebanese and I second that.

Salam,

[eropiereetuekm]

There should not be any doubt that the Ahbash are deviants. They are known for making takfir upon various personalities of Islam, among others Ibn Taymiyyah, Muhammad ibn Abd Wahhab, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, etc. If that is not "deviancy", I certainly do not know what is!

Subhan'Allaah, you call the Ahbash deviants and you are a supporter of the biggest fitna makers in the history of Islam, the Anthropomorphists! Ha! and you have the audacity to call them deviant

[eropiereetuekm]

Salaam,

Brother what do you consider a "non-biased" source? I had a close friend from Lebanon that was a Habashi and prayed in the wrong direction? Is that not sufficient enough? He would not even perform prayers in the congregation with the rest of the Muslims? He said "Islam was spread by the sword." He allowed some sisters to sing in his Islamic lectures??

Brother, the scholars of alhus sunnah wa jamat has considered them as deviant. Inshallah others can shed some light.

Also see this: http://naqshbandi.org/topics/refute/aicp/default.htm

Brother, did you even read this refutation? It is so weak and without substance it doesnt even match up to the reutation of the Haqqanis let alone be called a retaliated refutation. I swear, only for the haqq of Islam, how you attribute deviancy with validation to the Ahbash amazes me! Has anyone even verified the accusations set against them?

[brandiweb]

Ibn Taymiyyah, Muhammad ibn Abd Wahhab, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, ...the Anthropomorphists! Ha! And the hatred of Ameer ul-Mumineen Mu'awiyah (ra) is enough.

[QEoMi752]

Salam aleikoum,

since Shaykh Abdullah al-Habashi (who, despite his "easy" takfir was one of the greastest hadith specialist of our age. He had a strong ijaza in hadith from Shaykh Habib Abd-Rahman al Azami for example and knew by heart the 6 major sahih and sunan) died many scissions appeared in AICP.

A Habashi imam in Switzerland who pretends to be a close disciple said that Abdallah Harari's students were too extrem and that wasn't the shaykh behaviour.

Allahu 'alam.

Wa salam

[eropiereetuekm]

And the hatred of Ameer ul-Mumineen Mu'awiyah (ra) is enough.

Your accusations are way off. Na'outhibillaah. I hope you have not spread this rumour far for you may will be questioned about gossiping and lying.

Do you think I would acquaint myself with such people if this was the case. Bring a proof, ANY proof this has been said by Sheikh Abdullaah. I await you, and I will wait as long as you want. I will take it in form of writing, book name, recording, video, what ever you like attributed to him, if you are able to possess such a thing, but there isnt any existence. May Allaah guide you and me.

[eropiereetuekm]

Paladin, if you are talking about the "extreme" attitude towards anthropomorphism/tajseem, incorrect 'aqidah, statements belying the Qur'an/ahadith and the like, then be sure, he was not extreme but only doing what every accountable muslim should be doing, bidding the lawful and forbidding the unlawful. As for the "easy" takfeer, be sure that I have yet to date heard an "easy" takfeer without justification of its reason AND 1st advising the person of their error.

Some people say they are too extreme, then I would say these people dont care about preserving the truth. Only a blind hearted person will ignore the horrendous things being implented into our great religion!

Furthermore, I can find many scholars today who are on the same path as Sheikh Abdullaah's (rahimaullaah) teachings. Subhan'Allaah, but many of the Ahlusunna have fell for the tajseemi's lies and accusations and do not realise that they are aiding them in disuniting the sunnis. Subhan'Allaah, may Allaah guide us.

[shemadagaswer]

Here in Germany there are some Habashis. They tried to stop the "Salafi" Dawah... (Note: Here in Germany the only Dawah to Islam is the "Salafi" Dawah).... they failed to stop the "Salafi" Dawah.... the Habashis in Germany are really a joke... may ALLAH swt guide them on sirat al mustaqim!

wasalam

[mrllxp]

Paladin, if you are talking about the "extreme" attitude towards anthropomorphism/tajseem, incorrect 'aqidah, statements belying the Qur'an/ahadith and the like, then be sure, he was not extreme but only doing what every accountable muslim should be doing, bidding the lawful and forbidding the unlawful. As for the "easy" takfeer, be sure that I have yet to date heard an "easy" takfeer without justification of its reason AND 1st advising the person of their error.

Some people say they are too extreme, then I would say these people dont care about preserving the truth. Only a blind hearted person will ignore the horrendous things being implented into our great religion!

Furthermore, I can find many scholars today who are on the same path as Sheikh Abdullaah's (rahimaullaah) teachings. Subhan'Allaah, but many of the Ahlusunna have fell for the tajseemi's lies and accusations and do not realise that they are aiding them in disuniting the sunnis. Subhan'Allaah, may Allaah guide us.

Brother, you're really making yourself look like a Habashi.

[eropiereetuekm]

Brother, you're really making yourself look like a Habashi.

Habib, who said I was trying not to?

[eropiereetuekm]

Here in Germany there are some Habashis. They tried to stop the "Salafi" Dawah... (Note: Here in Germany the only Dawah to Islam is the "Salafi" Dawah).... they failed to stop the "Salafi" Dawah.... the Habashis in Germany are really a joke... may ALLAH swt guide them on sirat al mustaqim!

wasalam

Subhan'Allaah, even though they are trying with everything they have, you call them a joke? Im guessing you do not agree with the "salafi" dawah, please explain how you have also tried to preserve the truth of this ummah?