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Old 01-09-2012, 06:32 PM   #21
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Yes! Go on posting your methods of doing the particular amals but what I mean is, Some people say like this
" I have tested that and I found that it is beneficial" It is very dangerous. May allah ta'ala save us from this
"If for any other reason his matter doesn't solve will he say that it does have effect? >Astagfirullah!
We have very poor faith that's why we don't have that much strngth of Imaan.
May Allah Ta'la give us stong imaan and yakeen.

But I don't like this sentence "Benefited the most from". As I said each and every dhikr, amal said by my beloved is powerful and has effect, but if he don't see its effect then the problem lies in his yakeen.


If people see dhikrs working for other people perhaps this will encourage someone to engage in it.

My dear bro, please don't get offended by my words, If he/she founds that if any particular dhikr/amal get worked for x person he/she will start doing in thinking that the x person gets the effect so I too will get. Here he/she forgets that it will happened only with the will of allah

We should always be in such a state that even after our 1000s trials of making azkar,duas if our problem doesn't solved then we should say Everything is with the will of Allah(). This is very important.

Oh you're being technical... Of course it is only Allah who does it. Anyone who has studied a basic text on aqida knows this. It is only Allah who causes fire to burn, fire doesn't burn in and of it self, but we still say fire burns.... Proof that fire doesn't burn in and of itself is when Ibrahim was in the fire, fire didn't burn...

The effects Dhikr and dua is according to ones state..... this is well known.

And Allah knows best.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:32 PM   #22
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Hizb Bahr (Litany or Prayer of the Sea).

There are many dhikrs associated with Shaykh Abu Hasan Ash Shadhili, and probably the most famous of the dhikr, which he received in a dream from the Prophet (SAW). There are many fawaid (benefits, secrets) that the awilya of the Shadhili have discovered by using it.

Shaykh Ash Shadhili said, that in Hizb Bahr contains the greatest name of Allah.

Ibn Ayyad said, "whoever recites it every day at sunrise, Allah hears his prayer, relieves his distress, raises his standing among people, expands his breast with knowledge of divine oneness, facilitates his concern, lifts his hardship, keeps from him the evil of man and jinn, and protects him from the harm of mishaps of night and day."

One shaykh told me, don't worry about the sunrise if you cannot do it at sunrise, what is important is to do it daily, not the time of the day....

I have attached Hizb Bahr.

hizbbahr1-ar.pdfbahr-eng-nuh.pdf


Ever read Khawas Hasbunallhi wa Ni'mal Wakeel By Shaikh Abul Hassan Shadhili a short treatise on the zikr and its uses and benefits..

wa assalam..
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:47 PM   #23
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According to me, the title is not correct.

"What dhikr have you used and benefited the most from?"

This all depend on one's Yaqeen(trust) on how he/she is doing. Whatever our prophet said each and everything is beneficial. Testing it is against his imaan on his beloved
his imaan.

We should have such yakeen that if our prophet said then it will happen that's it whatever will be the situation.

Sahaba has not tested. They do have such yakeen that they have ran on water along with their horses.

Everyone keep posting your views but for Allah's sake stop telling your testing methods.


This is what Hazrat Prof. Nadir Ali Khan sahab db explained me when i visited him last.. said *** miyan if an ordinary person issues a death penalty on someone writing beutifully in golden ink.. will it have any effect.. i said no hazrat.. and if a judge writes the same with ordinary ink.. will it not be immediately effective... i replied in affirmative..
said it works similarly in such situations..

wa assalam..
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Old 01-09-2012, 10:48 PM   #24
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This is what Hazrat Prof. Nadir Ali Khan sahab db explained me when i visited him last.. said *** miyan if an ordinary person issues a death penalty on someone writing beutifully in golden ink.. will it have any effect.. i said no hazrat.. and if a judge writes the same with ordinary ink.. will it not be immediately effective... i replied in affirmative..
said it works similarly in such situations..

wa assalam..
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:11 PM   #25
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can anyone pray this?
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:28 PM   #26
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what is hizb bahr? and why is that people need ijaza to read these etc? someone enlighten me?
One person who had pledged on the hands of Maulāna Thānvī Rahmatullah ‛Alayh requested ijāza for the recitation of Hizbul Bahr. Maulāna answered that there was no need to seek ijāza in this matter. He insisted that he seeks ijāza for barakah. So Maulāna said “Very well, I make du‛ā’ that Allah gives you ability to practice upon it and accept that deed of yours.”

Maulvī Sayyid Ahmed Hassan said, “The intent of people from Ijāza is nothing but du‛ā’ itself.”

Maulāna replied, “No. If only du‛ā’ is made then they are not satisfied. On the other hand if only ijāza is given and no du‛ā’ is made, they are content with it. This shows that the intent is not du‛ā’.”

Maulvī Hassan inquired “If someone believes that if he reads Dalā’il Khayrāt or Hizbul Bahr etc. without any ijāza he will not gain any spiritual barakah from it, then if he does recite without any ijāza would he get any spiritual barakah?”

Maulāna Thanvī responded, “When he thinks that without ijāza he will not gain any blessings, then there will be no barakah from it.

“انا عند ظن عبدي بى” (I am to my slave as he thinks of Me to be)*.

Malfuzāt Hakīmul Ummat Malfuz # 43 – vol. 18 pg. 43

* Sunan Tirmidhi Hadīth # 2388

Copying and pasting from the blog of our Mufti Abu Hajira Sahab
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:45 PM   #27
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Sister do you have the written Arabic of that dhikr you mentioned?

yes sister, it is with me in wazai'f book, but I searched for you online.

Here is..

wazeefa.jpg

But, there is grammatical difference. I've read with 'al' but in the image there is 'ul'.

I read as, Ya Badi' al ajaaiby bil khayry. Ya Badi

but I find, Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi


will it make any difference? If someone here, can tell us about the use of 'al' and 'ul' Insha Allah.
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Old 01-09-2012, 11:55 PM   #28
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Hizb Bahr (Litany or Prayer of the Sea).

There are many dhikrs associated with Shaykh Abu Hasan Ash Shadhili, and probably the most famous of the dhikr, which he received in a dream from the Prophet (SAW). There are many fawaid (benefits, secrets) that the awilya of the Shadhili have discovered by using it.

Shaykh Ash Shadhili said, that in Hizb Bahr contains the greatest name of Allah.

Ibn Ayyad said, "whoever recites it every day at sunrise, Allah hears his prayer, relieves his distress, raises his standing among people, expands his breast with knowledge of divine oneness, facilitates his concern, lifts his hardship, keeps from him the evil of man and jinn, and protects him from the harm of mishaps of night and day."

One shaykh told me, don't worry about the sunrise if you cannot do it at sunrise, what is important is to do it daily, not the time of the day....

I have attached Hizb Bahr.

hizbbahr1-ar.pdfbahr-eng-nuh.pdf
brother.

I am a Hanafi, can I GO for this Hizb Bahr dhikr?

I don't know if there is some restriction regarding doing dhikr, being assumed in different schools of thought. as you are Maliki.
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Old 01-10-2012, 02:51 AM   #29
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brother.

I am a Hanafi, can I GO for this Hizb Bahr dhikr?

I don't know if there is some restriction regarding doing dhikr, being assumed in different schools of thought. as you are Maliki.
The Shadhili path has been traveled and tuaght by ulama of all the four madhabs. There are no restriction on reciting hizb bahr... Although I've heard some Shuyukh say it is better to get an authorization, but not having one shouldn't stop you from reciting it. ..... So if Allah gives you tawfiq to recite it then make it one of your daily dhikrs... And insha Allah you will benefit from it...
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:09 AM   #30
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Ever read Khawas Hasbunallhi wa Ni'mal Wakeel By Shaikh Abul Hassan Shadhili a short treatise on the zikr and its uses and benefits..

wa assalam..
Never read it..
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Old 01-10-2012, 05:12 AM   #31
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yes sister, it is with me in wazai'f book, but I searched for you online.

Here is..

wazeefa.jpg

But, there is grammatical difference. I've read with 'al' but in the image there is 'ul'.

I read as, Ya Badi' al ajaaiby bil khayry. Ya Badi

but I find, Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi


will it make any difference? If someone here, can tell us about the use of 'al' and 'ul' Insha Allah.
The second one looks most correct.....

Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi'
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:36 PM   #32
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The Shadhili path has been traveled and tuaght by ulama of all the four madhabs. There are no restriction on reciting hizb bahr... Although I've heard some Shuyukh say it is better to get an authorization, but not having one shouldn't stop you from reciting it. ..... So if Allah gives you tawfiq to recite it then make it one of your daily dhikrs... And insha Allah you will benefit from it...
brother
Okay, I'll recite it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 04:40 PM   #33
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The second one looks most correct.....

Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi'
Okay,

no one is accustomed to Arabic language here who can tell the difference Insha Allah.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:34 PM   #34
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The second one looks most correct.....

Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi'
Yes, the second one is correct because there is a damma over the letter which gives it an u sound and not an a or i or y sound.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:23 PM   #35
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yes sister, it is with me in wazai'f book, but I searched for you online.

Here is..

wazeefa.jpg

But, there is grammatical difference. I've read with 'al' but in the image there is 'ul'.

I read as, Ya Badi' al ajaaiby bil khayry. Ya Badi

but I find, Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi


will it make any difference? If someone here, can tell us about the use of 'al' and 'ul' Insha Allah.
JazakumAllahu khairan sister. I think the way you read could be right. It could be "Ya Badee' al 'ajaaibi bil khairi Ya Badee'" If you read it like this you are saying: "O Originator of the wonders with the good, O Originator" However I am not an expert, so don't take my word to be final. Although, the second way to me seems grammatically incorrect unless the "Ya Badee"' is seperate from the rest...
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:36 PM   #36
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yes sister, it is with me in wazai'f book, but I searched for you online.

Here is..

wazeefa.jpg

But, there is grammatical difference. I've read with 'al' but in the image there is 'ul'.

I read as, Ya Badi' al ajaaiby bil khayry. Ya Badi

but I find, Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi


will it make any difference? If someone here, can tell us about the use of 'al' and 'ul' Insha Allah.



Sister "The handhold", cud u kindly tell about this Wazeefa, is it for some specific purpose?

ALLAH o yajzeek ajran jazeelan
Ma'assalam
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:17 PM   #37
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wazeefa.jpg

But, there is grammatical difference. I've read with 'al' but in the image there is 'ul'.*

I read as, Ya Badi' al ajaaiby bil khayry. Ya Badi

but I find, Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi


will it make any difference? If someone here, can tell us about the use of 'al' and 'ul' *Insha Allah.
The first one appears grammatically incorrect..... Because the red y..... Something has to cause it to change from u to y... There is nothing in the Arabic that is causing it to change. The default is u sound... So what is changing it to I (y) sound.... Please explain.... How first one is correct.

The second one is correct....

It can be read a number of ways. Depending where you stop... *Periods will indicate stops...

*Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi
(no stop after the first al badi, stop after khayr,) the a in al ajaaib, (alif which is really a hamzatul wasli) this a sound is dropped if something comes before it....

Ya Badi'. Al ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi
(two stops)

Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayri Ya Badi'
(no stops)

Please correct me if I'm wrong but please explain why it's wrong.....
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Old 01-10-2012, 10:51 PM   #38
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@untoldtruth.. request Mod. to edit ur topic... thread is good ..Mashaa'Allah..just edit ur title.
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Old 01-11-2012, 12:56 AM   #39
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The first one appears grammatically incorrect..... Because the red y..... Something has to cause it to change from u to y... There is nothing in the Arabic that is causing it to change. The default is u sound... So what is changing it to I (y) sound.... Please explain.... How first one is correct.

The second one is correct....

It can be read a number of ways. Depending where you stop... *Periods will indicate stops...

*Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi
(no stop after the first al badi, stop after khayr,) the a in al ajaaib, (alif which is really a hamzatul wasli) this a sound is dropped if something comes before it....

Ya Badi'. Al ajaaibu bil khayr. Ya Badi
(two stops)

Ya Badi' ul ajaaibu bil khayri Ya Badi'
(no stops)

Please correct me if I'm wrong but please explain why it's wrong.....
It could be, but that depends on the real meaning of the dhikr. If somebody who is learned of nahw (grammar) can translate, that would be very good inshaa Allah : ) The first way it is read could indicate the meaning I gave earlier, but I am not sure what is being intended here.
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:37 AM   #40
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JazakumAllahu khairan sister. I think the way you read could be right. It could be "Ya Badee' al 'ajaaibi bil khairi Ya Badee'" If you read it like this you are saying: "O Originator of the wonders with the good, O Originator" However I am not an expert, so don't take my word to be final. Although, the second way to me seems grammatically incorrect unless the "Ya Badee"' is seperate from the rest...


This one is correct surely based on grammar and meaning etc

The one which I learnt was ya badi'a `l-'aja'ibi bi`l-khayri irhamni ila yawmi-`deen

يا بديعَ الْعجائبِ بالخير إرحمني إلى يومِ الدِّين
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