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**Honealals** · 04-09-2012, 08:55 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4

Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT.

Look at these misguided people listening to this woman.

People in Canada please boycott this organization.

**Abarricoss** · 04-09-2012, 09:09 AM

Astaghfirullah. Someone mentioned this on SF not too long ago. It is really strange and I wonder who they really are... who are they?

**jstizzle** · 04-09-2012, 09:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4

Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT.

Look at these misguided people listening to this woman.

People in Canada please boycott this organization.

To make things worse, the tajwid is jacked up!

**JewJoleSole** · 04-09-2012, 10:06 AM

I didn't watch the video, and I am not sure what is the benefit of posting such a video.

Allah knows best.

**Abarricoss** · 04-09-2012, 10:09 AM

Wadud jumaat. Okay, here's an interview with Amina Wadud but I warn you that some of you may be very upset by this.

**Abarricoss** · 04-09-2012, 10:21 AM

Islam in China - female imams in all women's mosques.

**jstizzle** · 04-09-2012, 10:24 AM

Well, I guess we all know who is wearing the pants in their households

**DuePew** · 04-09-2012, 02:28 PM

May Allah Save us in all mis guidance ameen

**Roxanjbra** · 04-09-2012, 02:31 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4

Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT.

Look at these misguided people listening to this woman.

People in Canada please boycott this organization.

This has been discussed before.
They are Zindeeqs.

**Dreqsqse** · 04-09-2012, 07:06 PM

Are females allowed to lead prayer, give a kutbe or call the ezan in a mosque or for a congregation that is for WOMEN ONLY, ie absolutely NO men around?

**HedoShoodovex** · 04-09-2012, 07:44 PM

She (the "imam") destroyed the Qirat.. Lool...

**Ruidselisse** · 04-09-2012, 08:02 PM

Question: did ibn taymiyyah RH hold the opinion that women can lead men in salah??

**Ruidselisse** · 04-09-2012, 08:18 PM

Are females allowed to lead prayer, give a kutbe or call the ezan in a mosque or for a congregation that is for WOMEN ONLY, ie absolutely NO men around?

it is disliked in the hanafi madhab

**nushentelve** · 04-09-2012, 08:49 PM

Question: did ibn taymiyyah RH hold the opinion that women can lead men in salah??

I heard something similar to this in a talk by Shaykh Hamza Yusuf on YT.

**nushentelve** · 04-09-2012, 08:54 PM

This is the video:

http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_u...?v=x45ysEfSuX0

**Dreqsqse** · 04-09-2012, 09:27 PM

So the Hanafis think that even if there is a group of 100 women that need to pray they need to get a man to lead them all.

**Enjknsua** · 04-09-2012, 09:32 PM

So the Hanafis think that even if there is a group of 100 women that need to pray they need to get a man to lead them all.

Or simply pray individually, since it's not wajb for women to pray in jama'ah.

**Wahwlsnt** · 04-09-2012, 09:38 PM

Astaghfirullah. Someone mentioned this on SF not too long ago. It is really strange and I wonder who they really are... who are they?

A interesting article and this may explain who they are working for.

http://www.usislam.org/latinos/conve...riffacarlo.htm

**JewJoleSole** · 04-09-2012, 09:40 PM

So the Hanafis think that [...snipped...]

I don't have anything to contribute to this thread (nor do I see the benefit of it as I said in my post earlier), however I will say that it's probably a bit rude and uncalled for to start a sentence with "So the Hanafis think that..."; and I'm not just saying for Hanafis, but for any madhab.

It's not what Hanafis "think", it's what Iman Abu Hanifa

taught us (not with this issue, but any "Hanafi" ruling in general). He by the grace of Allah

had a tremendous amoung of ilm (knowledge) about the deen, learned directly from people who we can only dream of being like, and then codified it to help make it clear for future Muslim generations. Same goes for Imam Shafii

and the other imams

.

It's not as if a bunch of people who call themselves "Hanafis" get together and come with rulings based on what they "think". No, it is derived from the teachings of Imam Abu Hanifa

, who derived every single one of his rulings from the Book of Allah

and the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger

.

Are there people who just blurt out rulings based on what they "think" and no real information? Sure, but that happens in every walk of life, and is not particular to Hanafis or any specific group of people; rather it is human nature.

Please forgive me if I said anything wrong and ask Allah

to forgive me as well. Ameen.

**mobbemeatiedy** · 04-09-2012, 11:11 PM

This is old news, forget those misguided who don't even have prayer as a link with the salafs.

Sunniforum threads on amina wadud's fitnah : http://www.google.com/search?q=amina...sunniforum.com

04-09-2012, 08:55 AM	#1
Honealals Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 440 Senior Member	Woman giving Khutbah, leading Prayer and Calling the Azan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4 Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT. Look at these misguided people listening to this woman. People in Canada please boycott this organization. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Abarricoss Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 578 Senior Member	Astaghfirullah. Someone mentioned this on SF not too long ago. It is really strange and I wonder who they really are... who are they? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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jstizzle Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 515 Senior Member	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4 Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT. Look at these misguided people listening to this woman. People in Canada please boycott this organization. To make things worse, the tajwid is jacked up! Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2012, 10:09 AM	#5
Abarricoss Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 578 Senior Member	Wadud jumaat. Okay, here's an interview with Amina Wadud but I *warn* you that some of you may be very upset by this. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Roxanjbra Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 394 Senior Member	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K44_GTueMm4 Astagfirullah. Men and Women praying side by side. What has happened to our world?? This is sign of DAY OF JUDGEMENT. Look at these misguided people listening to this woman. People in Canada please boycott this organization. This has been discussed before. They are Zindeeqs. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2012, 09:27 PM	#16
Dreqsqse Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 389 Senior Member	So the Hanafis think that even if there is a group of 100 women that need to pray they need to get a man to lead them all. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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Enjknsua Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 570 Senior Member	So the Hanafis think that even if there is a group of 100 women that need to pray they need to get a man to lead them all. Or simply pray individually, since it's not wajb for women to pray in jama'ah. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2012, 09:38 PM	#18
Wahwlsnt Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 412 Senior Member	Astaghfirullah. Someone mentioned this on SF not too long ago. It is really strange and I wonder who they really are... who are they? A interesting article and this may explain who they are working for. http://www.usislam.org/latinos/conve...riffacarlo.htm Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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04-09-2012, 09:40 PM	#19
JewJoleSole Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 384 Senior Member	So the Hanafis think that [...snipped...] I don't have anything to contribute to this thread (nor do I see the benefit of it as I said in my post earlier), however I will say that it's probably a bit rude and uncalled for to start a sentence with "So the Hanafis think that..."; and I'm not just saying for Hanafis, but for any madhab. It's not what Hanafis "think", it's what Iman Abu Hanifa taught us (not with this issue, but any "Hanafi" ruling in general). He by the grace of Allah had a tremendous amoung of ilm (knowledge) about the deen, learned directly from people who we can only dream of being like, and then codified it to help make it clear for future Muslim generations. Same goes for Imam Shafii and the other imams . It's not as if a bunch of people who call themselves "Hanafis" get together and come with rulings based on what they "think". No, it is derived from the teachings of Imam Abu Hanifa , who derived every single one of his rulings from the Book of Allah and the Sunnah of Allah's Messenger . Are there people who just blurt out rulings based on what they "think" and no real information? Sure, but that happens in every walk of life, and is not particular to Hanafis or any specific group of people; rather it is human nature. Please forgive me if I said anything wrong and ask Allah to forgive me as well. Ameen. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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mobbemeatiedy Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 401 Senior Member	This is old news, forget those misguided who don't even have prayer as a link with the salafs. Sunniforum threads on amina wadud's fitnah : http://www.google.com/search?q=amina...sunniforum.com Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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