[sestomosi]

Asalamu Aleikum - its my request to all brothers and sisters in sunniforum plzz pray for karachi - target killings are once again increasing recently and in a few months there will be very much bloodshed - because of the making of new Muhajir Province - there will be much much countless killings and violence and bloodshed within few months - i think this is all planing of U.S , Israel to Break Pakistan - plzz Pray and do Astaghfaar

[agrismhig]

Let Allah SWT help the muslims and protect the muslims from the oppressors and criminals and guide us all. Ameen

[AnneseeKels]

Brother, perhaps I don't need to tell you, but Karachi is strategically highly important to regional power. It's the major port of transit for Afghanistan and Pakistan, as it was a significant port for British imperial control when it was the capital of the Singh province.

Controlling Karachi is controlling the most important port for Central Asia. America has had its special forces joint command (JSOC)posted in Karachi after 9/11/01, thanks to Musharraf cowering to post 9/11 pressure.

And America has calculated its global power is connected to its increased power and influence at the crossroads of Asia, aka Central Asia and Afghanistan. America had India fund the Northern Alliance while Pakistan was funding the Taliban. And Karzai has allowed 1000s of Indian operatives into Afghanistan in every facet. The plan being for Afghanistan (and eventually Pakistan) to serve India as America builds it into a regional superpower beholden to America.

This is the plan. And Karachi is highly significant for this plan. and American special forces are in Karachi. So the recipe is for conflict, chaos, murders, instability as long as America is present. Expel America and its agents and operatives from Karachi and Pakistan, and Pakistan can find some semblance of security.

Biithnillah

[AnneseeKels]

BTW, duah is not the solution. It is always part of the believer's life, but it is not the solution to the problem.

You have to know what is happening and you have to act. If you have a bullet logged in your back, making Duah is not the solution. Removing the bullet, taking medicine to avoiding infection and to speed healing is the solution, and you do so while making duah.

[PareKeect]

How was karachi's security situation during Jamaat-e-Islami's rule over there ?

[OgrGlgHu]

ASWW
Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astag firullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirul lah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!

Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!

[sestomosi]

BTW, duah is not the solution. It is always part of the believer's life, but it is not the solution to the problem.

You have to know what is happening and you have to act. If you have a bullet logged in your back, making Duah is not the solution. Removing the bullet, taking medicine to avoiding infection and to speed healing is the solution, and you do so while making duah.

i can only pray Dua and ask help from ALLAH - what else can i do - citizens of karachi are only slaves of all political parties which are acting under foreign orders to seperate karachi from Pakistan - and citizens of karachi are in support of seperating karachi from pakistan - only ALLAH can help now -- local citizens are helpless like me

[AnneseeKels]

i can only pray Dua and ask help from ALLAH - what else can i do - citizens of karachi are only slaves of all political parties which are acting under foreign orders to seperate karachi from Pakistan - and citizens of karachi are in support of seperating karachi from pakistan - only ALLAH can help now -- local citizens are helpless like me

Dear brother,

I stand by my post as to the situation in Karachi. I have written on the issue in several other forums.
However, I am not a shaykh, a faqih, or an alim. I cannot specifically address your personal affairs while residing in Karachi. I suggest you seek out a shaykh/faqih who understands the situation as I have explained it, or similar to it, and more so. You might have to gain the confidence of an shaykh for him to reveal his true insight as it appears the murderers and interlopers have murdered numerous ulama there.

It may be that there are many who know the situation and are acting upon the solution according to what Allah has revealed. It should be mentioned that expulsion of foreign intruders, usurpers, interlopers, conquerors, murderers is completely consistent with the Deen of Islam. Just as it is it unnatural for someone to go about his daily affairs with a knife stabbed into his back, it is unnatural for believers to go about life with invaders, interlopers, murderers commanding and controlling the affairs of a Muslim city.

And Karachi is in many ways a mega city, a city state of contemporary proportions- over 16 million inhabitants who's strategic importance holds the affairs of perhaps 250 million people (Pakistan and Central Asia), even more (add western China, western India too).

It should be no surprise then that Taliban forces have focussed their attention in Karachi at the same time as American and zindeeq Pakistani hypocrite powers have concentrated their efforts there.

In terms of choices of action: it may be if someone is helpless, poor, weak, unable, he may have to hide. Or, he may have to migrate. Or, if he is strong, able, capable, he should defend his family, his home, his Muslim neighbors, and uphold Maroof and forbid Munkar.


And Allah knows best.

[ggdfgtdfffhfyj]

When somone makes a conspiracy theory, they should put a note at the end of their comment

[sestomosi]

When somone makes a conspiracy theory, they should put a note at the end of their comment

its not conspiracy theory - its reality - from the past week in karachi , there have been almost 100+ killings , 100+ vehicles burnt , daily strikes , shops closed - does it look like conspiracy theory ?

[ggdfgtdfffhfyj]

its not conspiracy theory - its reality - from the past week in karachi , there have been almost 100+ killings , 100+ vehicles burnt , daily strikes , shops closed - does it look like conspiracy theory ?

I was refering to theorys explaining the reason behind the killing. I don't see any reason to suppose that the Pakistani populace is too holy to be blamed for whats happening. This was prepredicted for years and natural outcome of how things are run in Pakistan.

[desmond001]

Asalamu Aleikum - its my request to all brothers and sisters in sunniforum plzz pray for karachi - target killings are once again increasing recently and in a few months there will be very much bloodshed - because of the making of new Muhajir Province - there will be much much countless killings and violence and bloodshed within few months - i think this is all planing of U.S , Israel to Break Pakistan - plzz Pray and do Astaghfaar

brother i was there for the past 3 months. i saw grafitied on walls "muhajir province" what is this all about? could someone explain.

[CibQueersejer]

ASWW
Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astag firullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirul lah!!Astagfirullah!!Astagfirullah!!

Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!Go in Tableegh!!

Pakistan is the strongest land in the matter of Tableegh. But it is true that maximum Muballighs are from the Pathans. I have seen very few people from Karachi, Islamabad and other famous cities who came in our country with Jamaat. Around 80% or more Jamaats come from tribal areas i.e. Peshawar and Punjab.

[CibQueersejer]

brother i was there for the past 3 months. i saw grafitied on walls "muhajir province" what is this all about? could someone explain.

I also want to know about it. Does it mean, a province for migrated people? That will be great! I'll first migrate to the Muhajir province and later to the blessed land of Afghanistan (after some years when Khilafat of the Taliban will be established).

[YonkFiorc]

Hadrat Moulana Aziz ur Rehman who isone of the prominent khulafa of Hadrat Shaikh moulana Zakariya has said that we should recite darood Tanjina as per the dream of a pious syed buzurg of madina in which te same was ordered by Hadrat Muhammad . Hadrat was at my home on sunday and narrated the whole waqiyah.

[AnneseeKels]

In terms of "Muhajir Province", I may be mistaken, but I think it refers to the original Muhajirs who migrated from various parts of India during the Partition and settled in Karachi. Or, it may refer specifically to the MQM, as they were previously the Muhajir Qaumi Movement (now Muttahida Qaumi Movement). As you may know, the MQM are prominent in Sindh and Karachi.

Warea, what would convince you of foreign powers intervening in Pakistan and Karachi in particular?
Aren't drone strikes convincing?
Isn't an American JSOC base in Karachi convincing?
Aren't the Raymond Davis saboteur and OBL assasination plots convincing?

What else do you need to see?

Yes, murder is a common political tactic in Pakistan. Karachi as well. But Karachi is a pivotal arena.

Don't you know of the NATO convoys passing through the port to Kabul?

Or TAPI and IPI?

[hasasnn2345tv]

(1) May Allah(SWT) return normalcy to Karachi. Ameen.
(2) , , .
(3) We should take all worldly measures in this situation (as in any other situation) and then pray for acceptance of those measures as well as for the desired end.
(4) Creation of chaos in target society is a regular means of controlling societies in the western military approach. Nothing conspiracy theoretic about it.
(5) It is merely one more practical implementation of Divide and Rule. Have we not seen in last two hundred years of British Rule? Why is that all the different sects become very active and assertive in their rule? And the things do not stop there. We ourselves start blurting, sooner or later, that difference of opinion is good for us.
(6) I suppose something should be done about the we for Prayer met, let leave the world for others approach. I do not think it is a wise choice. A personal opinion only - Allah(SWT) knows better.
Wassalam

[hasasnn2345tv]

JSOC = Joint Special Operations Command
Raymond Davis
OBL
NATO Convoys
TAPI
IPI

[hasasnn2345tv]

In terms of "Muhajir Province", I may be mistaken, but I think it refers to the original Muhajirs who migrated from various parts of India during the Partition and settled in Karachi. Or, it may refer specifically to the MQM, as they were previously the Muhajir Qaumi Movement (now Muttahida Qaumi Movement). As you may know, the MQM are prominent in Sindh and Karachi.

Warea, what would convince you of foreign powers intervening in Pakistan and Karachi in particular?
Aren't drone strikes convincing?
Isn't an American JSOC base in Karachi convincing?
Aren't the Raymond Davis saboteur and OBL assasination plots convincing?

What else do you need to see?

Yes, murder is a common political tactic in Pakistan. Karachi as well. But Karachi is a pivotal arena.

Don't you know of the NATO convoys passing through the port to Kabul?

Or TAPI and IPI?

Muhajir has many meanings in the Karachi context:

-Someone who migrated to Pakistan after partition from India
-Someone whose mother tongue is Urdu (note that only 10% of Pakistan's mother tongue is Urdu)
-Someone belonging to Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM)

Muhajir in everyday use usually refers to points 1 and 2. Those who are part of MQM like to think that they are representative of all muhajirs but they're not. My family is also a muhajir family, with some coming to Pakistan from Bombay and some from Bihar - but I don't know of anyone who belongs to the MQM, except for the impressionable teenagers who pick these ridiculous ideas at school - and the politicization that happens in schools is one of the biggest factors for all this violence that happens in Karachi. People are brainwashed to be part of the MQM or part of the Jamaat-e-Islami (JI), with both sides fighting and killing each other. The colleges and universities of Karachi are a hotbed of fighting between the two groups. And don't let the name fool you - Jamat-e-Islami is not Islamic, regardless of its claims. There are many kids in universities who are part of JI but do everything un-Islamic in the book. I even personally know of a JI fanatic who was going to kill his old mother but had to be restrained by his brothers.

The reason a distinction is made between the muhajirs and the rest of Karachi is that there is a dramatic cultural difference between the muhajirs of Karachi and the Pathans and Sindhis that are found in the city. Muhajirs tend to speak Urdu without a Punjabi, Sindhi, or Pashtun accent and they don't speak any other language natively, whereas the Sindhis speak Sindhi, the Punjabis speak Punjabi, and the Pathans speak Pashto.