[tsaaapla]

Up to £7 million spent on Mosques!! Is this right?
With so much poverty in the world, why are community leaders constructing places of worship that won't even be used on a regular basis?

Fridays are perhaps the only day the Mosques are full.
What happens to Muslims the rest of the week?

What a waste of Money!

Allah (SWT) commanded us again and again to feed the poor, support the orphans, to worship him (in a sensible way).

The crescent made of gold on the Dome, How much do you think it cost?

Imagine what these funds could have done for a whole family in poverty, an orphan child, parents who can't
afford to send their kids to school, for children as young as 5 years old who have spent their childhood
working in factories, for families who live in homes made of straw (yes there are such families).

May Allah guide us!

We can even congregate for prayer in a a simple four walled structure, with out resorting to such huge
expenses.

[xLQLRcXh]

Up to £7 million spent on Mosques!! Is this right?
With so much poverty in the world, why are community leaders constructing places of worship that won't even be used on a regular basis?

Fridays are perhaps the only day the Mosques are full.
What happens to Muslims the rest of the week?

What a waste of Money!

Allah (SWT) commanded us again and again to feed the poor, support the orphans, to worship him (in a sensible way).

The crescent made of gold on the Dome, How much do you think it cost?

Imagine what these funds could have done for a whole family in poverty, an orphan child, parents who can't
afford to send their kids to school, for children as young as 5 years old who have spent their childhood
working in factories, for families who live in homes made of straw (yes there are such families).

May Allah guide us!

We can even congregate for prayer in a a simple four walled structure, with out resorting to such huge
expenses.

it is their money and their choice... worry about urself that s my opinion....

[tsaaapla]

it is their money and their choice... worry about urself that s my opinion....

who is THEIR?

NO WONDER THERE'S NO UNITY IN MUSLIM COMMUNITIES WITH SUCH ATTITUDES.
YOUR NOT A PRACTICING MUSLIM IF YOU DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE ACTIONS OF YOUR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS.

THINK ABOUT THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE, YOU ASKED ME TO WORRY ABOUT MYSELF, THAT IS WHAT I'M DOING. WE ARE ACCOUNTABLE AT EVERY LEVEL BEFORE ALLAH.

CALIPH UMAR (RA) WOULD NOT REST AT NIGHT UNTIL HE KNEW THAT THE PEOPLE UNDER HIS LEADERSHIP WERE NOT EXPERIENCING ANY SUFFERING IN ANY WAY OR FORM. HE WOULD WALK THE STREETS TO
SEARCH FOR IN ANYONE IN DISTRESS AND HELP THEM.

THIS IS CALLED BEING CONCERNED FOR YOUR FELLOW BROTHERS AND SISTERS, AND WHAT WAS HE DOING? WHAT HE WAS TAUGHT BY THE PROPHET (PBUH). WHO WAS COMMANDED BY ALLAH (swt) TO CARE OF
HUMANITY.

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@ Harrow Muslim- Please reformat your whole post. I've already mentioned in another thread that writing in CAPS is not allowed as it is considered shouting.

[Eujacwta]

I think it is not fruitful if you just tell us about the cost, but not about the size and location of the masjid.
It may be that there are valid reasons for such expense.
We shouldn't forget that once a masjid is built, it's meant to remain as a masjid until the day of judgment.
If such measures are carried out which would require less maintenance over the decades, compared to requiring continuous improvement, then it's not a bad thing.

As for helping out others with the money, we should actively use these masjids for community building, and poverty awareness, and you will see the same masjid has brought together millions to help others for generations to come.

Wallaahu A'lam.

[Sttim]

It's one of the day of judgement is close, the mosques are just fulfilling the prophecy

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It's one of the day of judgement is close, the mosques are just fulfilling the prophecy

This is what I was thinking...Signs of Qiyyamah...

* The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of the people will be devoid of guidance.
* The courtyards of Masjids will be built beautifully and high mimbars (pulpits) will be erected.

[Qeiafib]

7 mil is not really a huge amount to spend on a project like this, especially if it's a large building with many facilities and serves as a community center. Especially in non-Muslim countries, it's important to have nice masajid that present an inviting face to the public, and a well-equipped community center. The cost of construction is not a recurring thing. Once the masjid is established, of course they should use it as a place to gather and raise funds for other charitable work.

I doubt the gold crescent is actual solid gold, although I am opposed to excessive decoration, it's tacky and a waste of money.

The problems of poverty in the world will not be solved permanently simply by donating money; there are massive changes in economic policy that have to take place.

[santorio]

THE R54 MILLION HOUGHTON MUSJID – AN OBSCENE SATANIC WASTE

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THE R54 MILLION HOUGHTON MUSJID – AN OBSCENE SATANIC WASTE

JazakAllah kyran

[casefexas]

Assalamu alaykum.

I understand your feelings. But people who are spending that money have their own preferences. If we request them to spend that money on orphans, they would reject that and they may stop spending on mosque.

So silence and duas is the best under these circumstances.

best answer

@Harrow Muslim Reform : first think about your mazhab and then think about this issue

[mashabox]

If it is full on Fridays then it is needed.
Just think of these Muslims who are not getting permission to build mosques.
If you feel some has invested too much in the mosque then just try to have the husn ad-dhann that he must have paid his Zakaat in full.
Also assume that he has paid enough to feed the poor and the needy. Just assume that there are too many poor and needy to be fed by him and he really wanted a beautiful mosque.

And it might be a sign of the end times. If this is the case then our first worry should be about our own future. In deed without signs of end times we should worry about ourselves but this approach where allowed actions of other people are questioned is not a positive one. Our own actions themselves leave so much to be desired.

[tsaaapla]

If it is full on Fridays then it is needed.
Just think of these Muslims who are not getting permission to build mosques.
If you feel some has invested too much in the mosque then just try to have the husn ad-dhann that he must have paid his Zakaat in full.
Also assume that he has paid enough to feed the poor and the needy. Just assume that there are too many poor and needy to be fed by him and he really wanted a beautiful mosque.

And it might be a sign of the end times. If this is the case then our first worry should be about our own future. In deed without signs of end times we should worry about ourselves but this approach where allowed actions of other people are questioned is not a positive one. Our own actions themselves leave so much to be desired.

Brother as a fellow muslim living in the community, I raise this awareness this issue because it matters, building mosques are not the only requirements of deen. This is no doubt ISRAF. Why does Allah keep reminding us that we do not urge the
feeding of the poor. I have attended many friday prayers not once has an imam ever spoken about giving to the needy, its always about continuous donations for our Masjid so that we can complete the expensive marble tiling. Earlier a brother saidtthat the masjid will be used for the community, yes it does get used for the community for then for Milad and naats nights. Sorry This is not Islam. This is innovation. And Assumption is the biggest problem we have and practice on a regular basis.

"Nay! But you do not honor the orphan, nor do you urge one another to feed the poor"(Quran 89:17-18)


Allah in the holy Quran says (2:215):
“They ask thee what they should spend (In charity). Say: Whatever ye spend that is good, is for parents and kindred and
orphans and those in want and for wayfarers. And whatever ye do that is good, -Allah knoweth it well. ”

Hadith narrated by Hadhrat Abdullah Ibn Mas'ood radhiyallahu anhu when he inquired from Rasulullah sallallahu alayhi wasallam about the SIGNS OF QIYAMAH. one of these was.


Hypocrites will be in control of the affairs of the community and evil, immoral people will be at the helm of business
establishments.
The Masjid will be decorated, but the hearts of the people will be devoid of guidance.
The courtyards of Masjids will be built beautifully and high mimbars (pulpits) will be erected.

[ethigSmimbine]

In non Muslim countries letting your presence known is important .
If you can put it that way.

The Salah in public and in congregation being a fundamental part of establishing Islam in the hearts and minds of believer and spread Allah's religion in the land you live in.

So it justifies in your location.

[tsaaapla]

In non Muslim countries letting your presence known is important .
If you can put it that way.

The Salah in public and in congregation being a fundamental part of establishing Islam in the hearts and minds of believer and spread Allah's religion in the land you live in.

So it justifies in your location.

How does that Justify the Israf?

[vintsqyuid]

@ Harrow Muslim Reform

Have you thought about asking your masajid at this expense and ask them for justification and voice your concerns?
Usually when masajids are collecting donations plans and intentions are available for all to see and to get involved?
It would have made more sense at voicing your concerns and those of the community before rather than after it has been done, is there any reason why this was not done?

(I am only asking out of curiosity).

[Qeiafib]

How does that Justify the Israf?

Yes, but how do you define what is israf and what isn't?

[d1Bc25UP]

Hmmm... don't we have better things to discuss like..... this.

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Hmmm... don't we have better things to discuss like..... this.

I can't tell if you are serious or joking.

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I can't tell if you are serious or joking.

thats the catch...