[priordine]

Why does he praise the overthrow of Mubarak and Ben Ali then?

Is it not because Mubarak aided the kuffar against the Muslims and Ben Ali legislated anti Islamic laws, which makes them both kuffar?

[educationonlines]

Why does he praise the overthrow of Mubarak and Ben Ali then?

Maybe he considered them outside of Islam? And did he encourage the overthrow or simply praise it after the fact? Because I'm pretty sure that if the Saudi monarchy is overthrown by "Islamists", he would and so would others praise this after the fact.

[bahrains27]

Salam 'Aleykum,

I would like to add to godilali's post, that the best selling point of the Salafi Da'awah is TAWHEED, this is something they concentrate on, this is something important and this is something that attracts many Muslims (and it should).

[bahrains27]

Can they prove that the salafs were not on Quran and sunnah. The famous muhadditeen, mufassireen and pious scholars for 1300 years were not on Quran and Sunnah.

Yes, if you compare the salafees with the false sufees, then surely the false sufees have to return, for that they need not turn to laa-madhabiyah.

The sincere dawah of laa-madhabees is towards furoee masail (which were resolved and approved for 1300 years). It looks attractive because every muslim respects hadeeth and Quran, and that respected is NOT created by the laa-madhabees, it was already created in the minds of muslims by scholars of madhabs. The laa-madhabees are misusing that respect.

My friend Arab Salafi scholars and especially their heavyweights allow Taqleed and recommend it for the laymen, they often quote the opinion of the four Madhabs before making judgement.

[educationonlines]

My friend Arab Salafi scholars and especially their heavyweights allow Taqleed and recommend it for the laymen, they often quote the opinion of the four Madhabs before making judgement.

There's a big difference between the Arab Salafis, the Indian/Pakistan Salafis, and the American Salafis. Arab Salafis tend to be the most accepting of the madhahib.

[Trotoleterm]

shaykh al arifi Mashallah is very good with regards to his political opinions. I heard him clearly praise qital, khilafah etc. I agree with godilali and the others. There are many reasons why people are put off by certain sufis and attracted to salafis. With regards to his praise of saudi arabia even though I'm not a fan of saudi arabia I ask the detractors to give me 1 country which is more religious. In the vast majority of the arab world you can't even grow a beard without getting harrassed. Brother suleiman on a related note could you please inform us what was the position of shaykh habib ali jifri db and shaykh habib umar db with regards to the uprisings especially with regards to Yemen.

[sniskelsowwef]

Muhammad al-Ninowy based in Atlanta, USAis a non-"salafi"

[22CreessGah]

What do you mean by the uprising in Yemen, brother London?

Do you mean the Hizb al-Islah uprising, backed by the mashayikh of aal al-Ahmar, the most corrupt family in the country and who were supporters of 'Ali Saleh only yesterday?

Or do you mean the Huthi movement in Sa'dah, 'Amran and Dhumar?

Or do you mean the Hirrak al-Junubi in the South, who are calling for seperation? You do realise, most southeners including the Hadramis never joined in with the protests in the north organized by the Islah party and aal al-Ahmar. They still havn't forgotten the fatawa launched by az-Zindani and others permitting their murder during the 1994 civil war. Did you know that Hamid al-Ahmar owns more land in the South than any southener?

'Ali Saleh was only propped up by the mashayikh of Hashid and Sinhan, at the forefront of whom were the aal al-Ahmar. When 'Ali Saleh wanted to appoint his son Ahmad as his successor, Hamid al-Ahamr got jealous and seperated from him. They fought each other for a bit. The aal al-Ahmar got the Islah party to set up the protests. When they realised that the students participating in the protests actually wanted real change, the so-called mubaadarah khalijiyyah kicked in, spear headed by Saudi Arabia. They, in conjunction with the UNDP (United Nation Developing something or other), encouraged people to go and vote. . . But it was no ordinary election: there was only one candidate, agreed upon by ... surprise, surprise, Hizb al-Islah! Who was this candidate? The vice-president of 'Ali Saleh himself, 'Abd Rabbo Mansur Hadi! Then, all of a sudden, the protests die down! Was this what the sincere people were protesting for? The Hirrak and Huthis, needless to say, boycotted the election.

The point I'm making is that the situation is more complex than you think - it's all a mess. Whichever side you choose, you're supporting some sort of Dhulm.

Habib 'Ali reflects that, in addition to making clear that the Yemeni people have suffered real dhulm due to the government, here:

سؤالي بصفتك مسلماً وداعية... ما رؤيتك لما يحدث الآن في اليمن؟

ما أراه في اليمن يحزنني ويؤلمني بصفتي من اليمن، وبصفتي مسلماً وخادماً للدعوة، وبصفتي إنساناً، وهو أمر مقلق للغاية ولا أدري ما بين سؤالك والنشر ما المتغيرات والمآسي التي يمكن أن تحصل في اليمن.. فالشعب في اليمن عانى كثيراً مثلما عانت بعض الشعوب الأخرى، وله مطالب عادلة ويعيش حالة ضنك وفقر وذل وأذى وآلام في بلد فيها الكثير من الخيرات.


كثير من الناس خرجوا يطالبون بحقوقهم، لكن ما جرى بعد ذلك هو أن اختلط كثير من الأمور وكثير من التوازنات، فلم تعد المسألة الآن فقط [وأرجو ممن يكتب ألا يحذف كلمة فقط].. لم تعد المسألة الآن فقط ثورة تعارك حاكماً أو تعارك نظاماً؛ وإنما أصبحت الآن ثورة مظلومين ضد نظام، وبجانبها أيضاً لعبة سياسية ممن كانوا بالأمس مع النظام، ومنهم من يتهم بالمشاركة في جرائم القتل، ومنهم من يتهم بنهب ثروات الشعب، فإذا بهم اليوم يعلنون أنفسهم ثوريين بل ويتحدثون باسم الثورة ودخلوا في صراع جديد مع النظام الذي كان بعضهم جزءاً أساسياً منه، وكان البعض الآخر شريكاً له في صراعات دموية سابقة. ومنهم من استغل الخطاب الإسلامي بالأمس لإعطاء مشروعية دينية للنظام في اقتتال على السلطة عام 1994 ذهب ضحيته أكثر من ثلاثين ألف يمني، بل لقد وصفوا القتال في صف النظام بالجهاد في سبيل الله، ولهم خطب تتحدث عن كرامات المجاهدين - بزعمهم - ضمن مظلة هذا النظام الذي صرنا نسمع من الأشخاص أنفسهم اليوم خطاباً إسلامياً يعد الثورة عليه أيضاً جهاداً في سبيل الله!وقد تحمد لهم إن صحت النية أنهم أعلنوا الوقوف في وجه الظلم.


فالوضع في اليمن اليوم له خصوصية مختلفة تماماً عن بقية الدول لكون المعركة أصبحت مزدوجة: فهناك معركة ثورة ضد نظام وهناك معركة أصحاب مصالح سياسية واقتصادية ضد النظام.

أضف إلى ذلك أن اليمن فيه أكثر من ستين مليون قطعة سلاح تمتلكها القبائل، غير أسلحة الجيش والدولة، كما أن الجيش ليست له عقيدة قتالية واحدة كما هو حال الجيش المصري على سبيل المقارنة، بل هو أيضاً متأثر بالصراعات والتنافسات السياسية الموجودة في البلاد.

أضف إلى كل هذا الوضع الداخلي المعقد إذ هناك انعكاسات لما يجري في اليمن على دول المنطقة ومصالح متعلقة بدول العالم الكبرى.فاليمن يقوم على أهم ممر بحري في العالم إن شئت من جهة باب المندب وهو الذي يقابل قناة السويس وإن شئت من جهة الممر الكبير الواسع بحر العرب، وهناك الكثير من المصالح المترتبة على هذا الأمر.

كما أن هناك مشكلة القاعدة (والقاعدة موجودة في اليمن ولا ينكر ذلك إلا جاهل بشؤون اليمن) لكن هناك علامات استفهام كثيرة على ظهورها السريع المفاجئ واختفائها السريع المفاجئ تناغماً مع التغيرات السياسية التي في اليمن.


فالصورة الآن كما ترى معتمة للغاية لكن أخطر ما فيها هو الاستهانة بالدم والاستخفاف بحرمة النفس الإنسانية التي عظمها الله سبحانه وتعالى، وهذا أخطر ما نراه اليوم وهو سهولة القتل ليس فقط عند النظام بل عند العديد من الأطراف السياسية المتصارعة اليوم. وهذا هو القدر الذي أنا متأكد منه، أما ما زاد على هذا فلا أستطيع أن أتكلم به حتى أكون واثقاً من دقة كل كلمة أقولها، لأنها تحتاج إلى متابعة يومية لتطورات الأحداث من داخلها، لا مما ينقل في وسائل الإعلام الموالية أو المعارضة أو القنوات الإخبارية التي تملكها دول لها مصالح في توجيه الأحداث الراهنة.

Make of it what you will.

was-salam

[Dr.Hoodoba]

Would you be able to translate (or at least summarize) what Sh. Habib `Ali has to say?

[Trotoleterm]

so brother suleiman if the situation is very confusing in yemen why are you criticizing al arifi for his silence and so-called double standards? Zindani gave a fatwa against them?

[rionetrozasa]

Just a hint:

Which urdu translation of Quran is printed in KSA and distributed free? A salafee translator's. There are much much better translations available in Indian-subcontinent, reason for non-selection, these translator's are non-salafees.

The salafee translation starts the tafseer of quran with "reciting fatihah behind imaam" and "aameen bil jahar".

I honestly find this very absurdly funny. Very typical of them. I am surprised they didn't find a way to start it with rafa yadain and holding the hands on the chest.

[rionetrozasa]

Sufi shaykh with clean-shaven face ? Are you kidding ? Only in some repressive countries such as Turkey , you may find a clean -shaven sufi shaykh .But , that is a special issue.

If you are really serious , then you should mention those sufi orders and we should start a thread with this title " Controversial sufi orders one should avoid "

Can you show me why you find trimming reprehensible but not shaving? Have the Hanafis or the Shafis differentiated between trimming and shaving?

[rionetrozasa]

Assalamu alaykum


The issue is not sufi vs salafee , it is salafee/laa-madhabi vs imam-e-araba. And specially Imam Abu Haneefa RA.


Can they prove that the salafs were not on Quran and sunnah. The famous muhadditeen, mufassireen and pious scholars for 1300 years were not on Quran and Sunnah.

Yes, if you compare the salafees with the false sufees, then surely the false sufees have to return, for that they need not turn to laa-madhabiyah.

The sincere dawah of laa-madhabees is towards furoee masail (which were resolved and approved for 1300 years). It looks attractive because every muslim respects hadeeth and Quran, and that respected is NOT created by the laa-madhabees, it was already created in the minds of muslims by scholars of madhabs. The laa-madhabees are misusing that respect.

Brother, you have completely missed what brother GodilAli is grying to say.

[22CreessGah]

so brother suleiman if the situation is very confusing in yemen why are you criticizing al arifi for his silence and so-called double standards? Zindani gave a fatwa against them?

it was more an observation than a criticism. and al-'arifi did take sides, namely the side of the mubadarah khalijiyyah which his beloved country was a key if not primary member of. it's just interesting how people like him get away with following Saudi foreign policy to the dot while others - like the Haba'ib - are criticized, despite not alligning themselves with any government in particular.

[Trotoleterm]

Dear brother suleiman I shall inshallah find a clip where shaykh al arifi calls for khilafat, praises those fighting etc. Now tell me since when does saudi foreign policy call for khilafat and qital fisabillah? With regards to the habaib I do not have too much information about their views on such issues.

[bahrains27]

al-Salamu 'ALeykum,

Yes al-'Arifi follows Saudi foreign policy for the most part, but that is overshadowed by all the benefits the Muslims get from his lectures and advice... so who cares.

[22CreessGah]

al-Salamu 'ALeykum,

Yes al-'Arifi follows Saudi foreign policy for the most part, but that is overshadowed by all the benefits the Muslims get from his lectures and advice... so who cares.

wa 'alaykum as-salam wa rahmatu Llah,

Absolutely! I just hope people make those same excuses before criticizing the political affiliations of other scholars.

Brother London, by Khilafah, I assume he means overthrowing aal su'ud? If he does, I'd very surprised. I'd really like to hear that clip.

[awagsFare]

I honestly find this very absurdly funny. Very typical of them. I am surprised they didn't find a way to start it with rafa yadain and holding the hands on the chest.

Tafsirs are of various kinds, some are mostly grammatical, others focusing on Fiqh, Aqidah or other fields; others combine them all. In the classical tafsirs you will find the authors bringing ahadith to elucidate the meanings and applications of the Book of Allah Ta´ala. This is nothing new, whether Maliki, Shafi´i, Hanbali, Hanafi or any other affiliation.

wa'Allahu a´lam.