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Old 03-15-2012, 02:08 AM   #1
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Asalamalikum.
Well, over the past 2 years I've had alot of lucid dreams (naturally), which is basically staying awake but dreaming at the same time and you can somewhat control your dreams. You can move your eyes, but you can't move any other part of your body and the first time it was very very freaky. It's usually also called sleep paralyses. With practice one can actually start controlling their dreams more(I know some people!). For example, I could leave my dream and go back into the same dream whenever I wanted in that state. It's very relaxing too and once you learn to take control with practice you can do anything you want in the dream.

My question if other people have actually tried this? Or have encountered in naturally?
Secondly, it wouldn't be haram would it? Because it's a natural phenomenan
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:22 AM   #2
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They say never interpret dreams and if you do always interpret with positively as it may come true.

Can you have such dreams, control them the way you want and then interpret them as such.

Freaky stuff

Can't say I have experienced anything like this. There have been times I knew I was dreaming (in my sleep) and controlled it a bit. And few times I've woken up from a dream, went back to sleep and gone back to the middle of my dream.
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:37 AM   #3
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With lucid dreams you can actually control what you want to dream about. You can do whatever, that amazes me. And the best part is you remember it very very clearly
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:41 AM   #4
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I do remember having a couple lucid dreams...I find it fascinating.And I have read that one can control dreams with practice.
What I would like to learn is dream interpretation...I do wish there were Muslims that did classes on this..maybe there is but I haven't come across any.Neat thread..JazakAllah
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:48 AM   #5
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It sounds a little off to me... scary stuff. Like meddling in areas we really should leave alone? What if you get addicted to lucidity? And, what can you do in that state - where do you 'go'? What purpose would it serve?

It sounds very different from daydreaming and drifting in thought (unintentional) while you are still connected to your body and movements. Those I have. I even get some sort of visions, unrehearsed. Dreams too. But lucid dreams, not that I'm aware of... unless it is just at that moment where you're drifting in and out of deep sleep and you can hear people around you and are aware to some degree but already drifting away so you don't respond, that happens but is still unintentional and somewhat out of my control...
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:53 AM   #6
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It sounds a little off to me... scary stuff. Like meddling in areas we really should leave alone? What if you get addicted to lucidity? And, what can you do in that state - where do you 'go'? What purpose would it serve?

It sounds very different from daydreaming and drifting in thought (unintentional) while you are still connected to your body and movements. Those I have. I even get some sort of visions, unrehearsed. Dreams too. But lucid dreams... unless it is just at that moment where you're drifting in and out of deep sleep and you can hear people around you and are aware to some degree but already drifting away so you don't respond...
Walaikumsalam, it does sound scary. But it really isn't. and it is very different from day dreaming and drifting in thought. because your body is sleeping but you are full awake in yourself. I don't think lucid addiction would be bad. There were alot of experiments carried out and its a natural phenomena.
In the state basically you can do anything you imagine, fly, jump as high as you can and stuff you can't do in reality.
Where do you 'go'? No where, just in sleep, no I have heard that once your asleep your ruh leaves. So with respect to where your ruh is, I do not know.
Purpose, I am really not sure about it. But lucid dreaming is mostly recommended to those who have alot of bad dreams
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Old 03-15-2012, 02:57 AM   #7
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There are 2 techinques, the MILD(Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams) technique, and the WILD(Wake Induced Lucid Dreaming) technique
http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.c...id-dreams.html
http://www.world-of-lucid-dreaming.c...id-dreams.html

I tried it last night, the WILD technique, but I guess it takes more practice. Because I didn't move an inch for 20-30 minutes, my hands and legs became numb and I was sleeping but I was more of awake. and time flew by but I still wasn't lucid dreaming
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:04 AM   #8
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Walaikumsalam, it does sound scary. But it really isn't. and it is very different from day dreaming and drifting in thought. because your body is sleeping but you are full awake in yourself. I don't think lucid addiction would be bad. There were alot of experiments carried out and its a natural phenomena.
In the state basically you can do anything you imagine, fly, jump as high as you can and stuff you can't do in reality.
Where do you 'go'? No where, just in sleep, no I have heard that once your asleep your ruh leaves. So with respect to where your ruh is, I do not know.
Purpose, I am really not sure about it. But lucid dreaming is mostly recommended to those who have alot of bad dreams
it is interesting.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:08 AM   #9
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I wonder if lucid dreaming and asral travel are the same? Sounds like it.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:19 AM   #10
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Salam 'Aleykum,

It's called "kanashibari" in Japanese, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZL-nsgAIEk
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:22 AM   #11
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I think you guys are confusing lucid dreaming with sleep paralysis.
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:24 AM   #12
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Salam 'Aleykum,

It's called "kanashibari" in Japanese, watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZL-nsgAIEk
LOL, thatès like me the first time it happened to me :P.
My brother walked in the room and I knew he walked in. I wanted water so I was trying to say his name but I couldnt say anything then I started reciting aytal kursi thinking it was jinn stuff. But later I researched it, and found it it is natural
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Old 03-15-2012, 03:24 AM   #13
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Well, I had no intention of trying this but if I ever do I think I'll fall into a laughing fit after watching that. Too funny.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:25 AM   #14
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I wonder if lucid dreaming and asral travel are the same? Sounds like it.
No two different things. Lucid dreaming is having control of your dream, being in a dream state with control, while astral travel is when the consciousness (awareness) leaves the body without experiencing death... The spirit is actually still attached to the body but part of it has expanded or extended outside the body... So it appears you have left your body, you can actually see your physical body in real time.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:37 AM   #15
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Lucid dreaming is a state where one realises he/she is in a dream and therefore knows NOTHING can harm them and therefore can "control" the dream by doing anything they want. Glory to be Allah, this can be dangerous as a brother did point out if you get addicted you may end up liking the "dream world" better than the "real world"... good to be cautious... but it is fun.

I lucid dream 2-3 times a week and over time it is easy to come by with practice and knowing the "signs" of sleep, how do we know we are awake now and not dreaming? aand vice versa. Once you know the signs it is safe and fun to do.

For example i have times when i am fighting and i realise i am in a dream and i therefore start flying and firing fire out of my hands, it is shocking but fun to do if you can do it.

I do human biology and Psychology at University, final year so this comes up a bit in the degree.

Salam.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:44 AM   #16
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how can one do Lucid Dreaming ?
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:47 AM   #17
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how can one do Lucid Dreaming ?
It has to be practised, first you have to remember your dreams and maybe write down reoccurring features in you dream... for example things that happen a lot, this is the case for everyone. After that you need to make sure when you are in the awake state you realise the signs of being awake. After you have done that... next time you sleep you will realise that you are dreaming and not awake...

For example, if you have enough will power if you are dreaming a house and the light starts coming on by itself you can realise it is a dream and then you can start "controlling it" so if you want to fly, you can start flying.

You have to see the signs of being awake and dreaming first before you can lucid dream, inshAllah.
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Old 03-15-2012, 04:51 AM   #18
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It has to be practised, first you have to remember your dreams and maybe write down reoccurring features in you dream... for example things that happen a lot, this is the case for everyone. After that you need to make sure when you are in the awake state you realise the signs of being awake. After you have done that... next time you sleep you will realise that you are dreaming and not awake...

For example, if you have enough will power if you are dreaming a house and the light starts coming on by itself you can realise it is a dream and then you can start "controlling it" so if you want to fly, you can start flying.

You have to see the signs of being awake and dreaming first before you can lucid dream, inshAllah.
umm impossible for me to do then coz my memory is weak , i dont remember my Dreams . . . :'(
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:07 AM   #19
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It has to be practised, first you have to remember your dreams and maybe write down reoccurring features in you dream... for example things that happen a lot, this is the case for everyone. After that you need to make sure when you are in the awake state you realise the signs of being awake. After you have done that... next time you sleep you will realise that you are dreaming and not awake...

For example, if you have enough will power if you are dreaming a house and the light starts coming on by itself you can realise it is a dream and then you can start "controlling it" so if you want to fly, you can start flying.

You have to see the signs of being awake and dreaming first before you can lucid dream, inshAllah.
Brother, I have been using the wild technique for 2 days. Now, I do feel things differently when I fall deep into it, and time flys by :S. but Im still not into into my dream. Do you understand what I mean lol. I want to actually get in it. I know it takes practice, but you do it 2-3 times a week. how can I practice
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Old 03-15-2012, 06:27 AM   #20
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Wow so many of u have experienced it. Do you need to be at a certain spiritual level. Id like to try. I have lots of vivid dreams.
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