[xanaxnewtrader]

I am a syed muslim who practices the Sunni Fiqh. My mother is sunni and my father is Shia Muslim. That is why I know so much about Shia Islam. Anyways, I have not seen that many Sunnis who are Syeds and I just want to know If there is no problem in me being a sunni and a syed?

P.S Also, how come people praise someone if they are Syed. I never really understood if there was any benefit of being syed.

[plalleste]

First of all the praise of the Ahlu Bayt is by virtue of our beloved Nabi . And there's totally contradictory about being a Syed and a Sunni at the same time. There are many Sunni Syeds, but usually they don't bragg about it like Shi'a do. Because with the virtue it brings a great responsibility with it, the family of Rasulullah has always given tremendous sacrifices for the sake of Allah.

[xanaxnewtrader]

To be honest, sunnis brag about being syed than shias do. For example, many sunni syeds put "Syed" in their name to tell people that they are syed.

The Shias like my father put names that only other shia people know to be syed names e.g Naqvi, Hashmi, Jafri, Rizvi, etc.

This way only shias know that certain people are syed.

Now coming to the question, what are the benefits of even being syed? I see none, to be honest. I still think of myself like every other Muslim.

[Aeaefee]

To be honest, sunnis brag about being syed than shias do. For example, many sunni syeds put "Syed" in their name to tell people that they are syed.

I know a lot of people who got just the title syed, yet they arent syed.

[strmini]

As far as I know all shia's class them selves as Syed... But lets not play tic tac here

Syeds are of the family of Muhammad pbuh, may Allah protect them all, and give them the best of both worlds, and save them from the fire of hell. Ameen

Why would you want to know the benefits, if you was true, you would be questioning 'how can I help the Ummah in these troubled times?' as our Prophet Muhammad would be doing, you said your a Syed right?

Anywaays, good luck in finding all that out,

P&B

[xanaxnewtrader]

No offense, but you really shouldn't be ignorant about the Shia Community of Muslims. Not all shias are Syeds. It is just naturally assumed that Syeds are Shias.

People put Syed in their names, but I didn't. My last name Is Naqvi. This comes from the 10th Imam Of the Shias, Imam Muhammad Al-Hadi. I am his decendant. Since he was the 10th Imam, he was related to the Prophet Muhammad(SAW). That's How I am a syed. I don't put it literally in my name. That's why only other shias know that I am a syed.

First of all, every Muslim should ask what they should do for there community, not just Syeds. Also, I don't discriminate when helping someone. There are non-muslims in this world, just like Muslims who are being oppressed and need help.

I am just asking why people value Syeds so Much. In my opinion, I am just like every other Muslim. Is there any benefit for being Syed? If so, why?

[famosetroie]

I am just asking why people value Syeds so Much. In my opinion, I am just like every other Muslim. Is there any benefit for being Syed? If so, why?

I think they value Syeds so much just because you are from the family of the prophet and expect some of the same characteristics in you, I remember when I was in Year 9, a new supply teacher was teaching us and he was a Syed, I had to ask my mate what a Syed was, he told me and it was like I kept looking at the teacher for characteristics like in the prophet(PBUH) like humbleness in the teacher...

[bahrains27]

No offense, but you really shouldn't be ignorant about the Shia Community of Muslims. Not all shias are Syeds. It is just naturally assumed that Syeds are Shias.

People put Syed in their names, but I didn't. My last name Is Naqvi. This comes from the 10th Imam Of the Shias, Imam Muhammad Al-Hadi. I am his decendant. Since he was the 10th Imam, he was related to the Prophet Muhammad(SAW). That's How I am a syed. I don't put it literally in my name. That's why only other shias know that I am a syed.

First of all, every Muslim should ask what they should do for there community, not just Syeds. Also, I don't discriminate when helping someone. There are non-muslims in this world, just like Muslims who are being oppressed and need help.

I am just asking why people value Syeds so Much. In my opinion, I am just like every other Muslim. Is there any benefit for being Syed? If so, why?

70%+ of Sayyeds are Mainstream or Sunni Muslims, The rest are cocktail with 5 families in Lebanon alone being Christians. It is a good feeling to know that you are in some way related to a great Man that lived 1400 years ago, I'm related to the prophet PBUH from Al Hassan RAA regardless of the title "Sayyed" or not. However, In Islam being connected by blood does not mean that you become special, how does being a Sayyed benefit me? Actually It Doesn't. Have you heard Hussein el Husseini Calling himself Sayyed? or Dr.Mohammad el Hashimi? The Prophet PBUH said this to Fatima RAA:
قال رسول الله :يا فاطمة اعملي لنفسك فإني لا أغني عنك من الله شيئاً
Prophet PBUh said:"O Fatima Work(For your final day), Because Then I cannot help you(To enter heaven)".
meaning that only your good deeds count and not your "Divine bloodline" or any other UnIslamic ideas.

Ali RAA supposedly said in the important twelver book Nahjul Balagha:

قال الإمام علي(ع): "إن ولي محمد من أطاع الله وإن بعدت لحمته، وإن عدو محمد من عصى الله وإن قربت قرابته" نهج البلاغة
Imam Ali RAA Says:" Mohammad's wali (friend/follower/lover) is he who obeys Allah even if he is from a distant land, and Mohammad's Enemy is he who disobeys Allah even if he was the closest relative." (Nahjul Balagha)

meaning the bloodline and the progeny and all this will not grant you special status with Allah which allows you to enter heaven, in fact if anything it should put more responsibility on you.

Hope this answers your questions,
Salam

[xanaxnewtrader]

I don't think you are right on the 70% people of syeds being sunnis. Because, in order to be a Syed, you would have to be coming from the 12 Imams of the shias. Like me for example, I have a shia background. This would imply that Shias probably have more syeds than sunnis do.

[Erawise]

I am a syed muslim who practices the Sunni Fiqh. My mother is sunni and my father is Shia Muslim. That is why I know so much about Shia Islam. Anyways, I have not seen that many Sunnis who are Syeds and I just want to know If there is no problem in me being a sunni and a syed?

P.S Also, how come people praise someone if they are Syed. I never really understood if there was any benefit of being syed.

The vast majority of actual Sayyid people are Sunni. Note that even the '6th Imam' Ja'far as-Sadiq (RA) was not a Shi'a - in fact he was the teacher of Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) and when he was dying he referred people to Imam Malik - NOT to any Shi'a. That alone is proof for the illegitimacy of the Shi'a claim on the great Imam.

Look at scholars such as Shaykh Muhammad ibn Yahya an-Ninowy, Shaykh Muhammad al-Ya'qoubi, Shaykh Salek bin Siddina amongst many many others to see the real Ahl-al-Bayt in our times.

[bahrains27]

I don't think you are right on the 70% people of syeds being sunnis. Because, in order to be a Syed, you would have to be coming from the 12 Imams of the shias. Like me for example, I have a shia background. This would imply that Shias probably have more syeds than sunnis do.

not just 70% but maybe even 80%, trust me everyone knows this, the shiites just brag about nothing I dare them to make a statistic, most of the Sayyeds are sunni and they don't even care about the title.

[xanaxnewtrader]

The vast majority of actual Sayyid people are Sunni. Note that even the '6th Imam' Ja'far as-Sadiq (RA) was not a Shi'a - in fact he was the teacher of Imam Malik and Imam Abu Hanifa (RA) and when he was dying he referred people to Imam Malik - NOT to any Shi'a. That alone is proof for the illegitimacy of the Shi'a claim on the great Imam.

Look at scholars such as Shaykh Muhammad ibn Yahya an-Ninowy, Shaykh Muhammad al-Ya'qoubi, Shaykh Salek bin Siddina amongst many many others to see the real Ahl-al-Bayt in our times.

I don't think so because A lot of shia literature say that Jafar as Sadiq was a shia. Just because he taught Imam abu hanifa and Malik does not mean that he was a sunni. You should be careful to use this argument on jafar as sadiq teaching Abu hanifa and malik. Shia muslims use this argument all the time to justify Jafar as sadiq being better than the other imams you have mentioned.

Regardless of whether or not he was shia or sunni, All syed people, whether shia or sunni, claim ancestry from one of the 12 Shia Imams. Implying that even sunnis have shia background. If this is true, then this would imply that they are more shia syeds than sunni ones.

I didn't think that there were more Sunni syeds than shia ones. Is there any proof on this?

[plalleste]

I don't think so because A lot of shia literature say that Jafar as Sadiq was a shia. Just because he taught Imam abu hanifa and Malik does not mean that he was a sunni. You should be careful to use this argument on jafar as sadiq teaching Abu hanifa and malik. Shia muslims use this argument all the time to justify Jafar as sadiq being better than the other imams you have mentioned.

Imam 'Azam Abu Hanifa or Imam Malik would have never accepted anything from a Shi'a scholar.
They [rahmatullah alayh] have rejected other sources of knowledge for much subtler reasons.

[bahrains27]

I don't think so because A lot of shia literature say that Jafar as Sadiq was a shia. Just because he taught Imam abu hanifa and Malik does not mean that he was a sunni. You should be careful to use this argument on jafar as sadiq teaching Abu hanifa and malik. Shia muslims use this argument all the time to justify Jafar as sadiq being better than the other imams you have mentioned.

Regardless of whether or not he was shia or sunni, All syed people, whether shia or sunni, claim ancestry from one of the 12 Shia Imams. Implying that even sunnis have shia background. If this is true, then this would imply that they are more shia syeds than sunni ones.

I didn't think that there were more Sunni syeds than shia ones. Is there any proof on this?

There are no official statistics but it is so clear that you can research this in important universities and easily reach this conclusion. As for Ja'afar el Sadiq being "Shiite" Lol, who takes anything from twelver shiite literature anyways all of it is fake they just make stuff up.

[xanaxnewtrader]

There are no official statistics but it is so clear that you can research this in important universities and easily reach this conclusion. As for Ja'afar el Sadiq being "Shiite" Lol, who takes anything from twelver shiite literature anyways all of it is fake they just make stuff up.

You shouldn't laugh at the Shias. Show some humanity. If you don't read their literature, how will you ever find out what they believe. How can you prove then from Sunni literature that he was not a Shia?

[Erawise]

I don't think so because A lot of shia literature say that Jafar as Sadiq was a shia. Just because he taught Imam abu hanifa and Malik does not mean that he was a sunni. You should be careful to use this argument on jafar as sadiq teaching Abu hanifa and malik. Shia muslims use this argument all the time to justify Jafar as sadiq being better than the other imams you have mentioned.

Regardless of whether or not he was shia or sunni, All syed people, whether shia or sunni, claim ancestry from one of the 12 Shia Imams. Implying that even sunnis have shia background. If this is true, then this would imply that they are more shia syeds than sunni ones.

I didn't think that there were more Sunni syeds than shia ones. Is there any proof on this?

Except that the 'SHIA' IMAMS WERE NOT SHIA. Get that straight. Western historiography does not accept your cultish sources.

Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq would probably call someone a kafir if someone came up to him and said "you're infallible" (audhubillah)

[bahrains27]

You shouldn't laugh at the Shias. Show some humanity. If you don't read their literature, how will you ever find out what they believe. How can you prove then from Sunni literature that he was not a Shia?

Not only do most sunnies not care about the title of Sayyed But Most of the Mainstream muslims never even heard of the term "Sunni" let alone "Shiite". Bro I read more twelver shiite material than you can ever think of, I even read Zaidi Shiite Material, Have you heard of the Kamiliyah for example? They're shiites who made takfir on Ali RAA because he never rebelled against abu Bakar RAA and Omar RAA.

BTW why do they hate you so much at "Shiachat"?

[Erawise]

Not only do most sunnies not care about the title of Sayyed But Most of the Mainstream muslims never even heard of the term "Sunni" let alone "Shiite". Bro I read more twelver shiite material than you can ever think of, I even read Zaidi Shiite Material, Have you heard of the Kamiliyah for example? They're shiites who made takfir on Ali RAA because he never rebelled against abu Bakar RAA and Omar RAA.

Can you tell me what is going on here?
http://www.*************/forum/index...llah-directly/

Akhi the link didn't post properly. Put a space in the midddle or something and it won't be blocked I think.

[bahrains27]

Akhi the link didn't post properly. Put a space in the midddle or something and it won't be blocked I think.

paste his name in google and add shiachat to it.

[xanaxnewtrader]

You guys brought up something enlightening to me about the Imams. How can you prove that they were not the 12 Imams?

I don't think you have read anything other than Al-kafi. Otherwise you would not have ignorant views of the Shias. I am currently reading about the shias in Man la yahduruhu al-Faqih of Shaikh Saduq, which is one of their hadith books.

If you can prove that the 12 Imams were not Imams but just people, then this would definetly disprove Shia Islam. Can you please bring some proof on this?