[Scukonah]

your deoband scholars praise yazeed and whenever i mention Ahle Bait in front of them , they get angry , i will instead get info from that site rather than so called Ahlus sunnah deoband . they degrade Rasul Pak (S) also ,

Deoband was, is and always will be "deviant" according to two brothers- Shi'ite and Barelwi. You are a perfect blend of these two.

[hitaEtela]

your deoband scholars praise yazeed and whenever i mention Ahle Bait in front of them , they get angry , i will instead get info from that site rather than so called Ahlus sunnah deoband . they degrade Rasul Pak (S) also ,

So, instead of going to the actual sources to find the truth, you like to be led around by the nose by the Shi'a and the mubtadi'oon? سبحان الله

The opinion of the scholars of Deoband as well as the majority of Sunni scholars is to remain silent when it comes to Yazeed. Deobandis neither praise him nor do they condemn him. Deobandis leave this matter to Allah .

Also, the only reason any sane Sunni gets angry at you is because in your "love" for the Ahlul Bayt, you condemn the sahaba . Mu'awiyah was a companion of Rasoolullah and yet you've said some weird things about him. To do such a thing is not something a Sunni can stand. You also come up with insane hypotheticals and pit the Sahaba against the Ahlul Bayt when there are no bigger lovers of the Ahlul Bayt than the Sahaba . On the other hand, whenever you mention the Ahlul Bayt, we do not hold them in contempt but rather love them. We love the Sahaba and we love the Ahlul Bayt. We also don't fall for Shi'a propaganda that sows discord and anger.

[pfcwlkxav]

The site advocates bidahs such as adhaan at the grave and aqeedah such as the omnipresence of Nabi also refutes "wahhabis" (read "Deoband") for believing that Allah can lie.

Abstain from taking knowledge from such a site.

Take your ill-minded thoughts elsewhere.

The site provides proof of everything it says. You cannot refute it any way at all. If you wish to refute it, you are refuting the word of God (Quran itself) and the Hadith.

There is a difference between preaching & teaching islam without any proof (EXAMPLE: The Shia) and with proof.

[Meowmeowz]

Here is a question...(sorry to go off topic) slightly.
The prophet (saws) is alive in his grave just as he narrated he saw Mussa (AS0 alive in his grave praying.
The prophet (saws) can hear the durrods that we sent on Fridays and any other day of the week it is passed over via the angels.
Now my question is when we visit the Rozah, can the prophet (saws) see us ?
Someone once a long time ago said something along the lines of imagine if you go there to the roza and you don't have a beard will the prophet look at you or would he look away ? He said something along these lines which insinuated that the prophet (saws) could see us?
Is this a view of Ahle sunnah?
What is the Deobandhi view on this?

[mas-dkt-sive]

There are several errors in this thread regarding the Prophet
These issues have been addressed several times on this forum.

This issue- the status of the Prophet - does not concern us today. It does NOT address our reality, our responsibilities, our sins.
The Prophet died as Allah SWT has promised for all of us, and the best and most knowledgeable generation: the sahaba :rahm: chose a khalifah to the rasul, Abi Bakr and buried our beloved .

And we give greetings to him in his grave and make duah for him .

Khalas.

Now, what of our problems facing this life?
What of the spread of kufr dominion?
What of the occupation of Muslim lands, what of ruthless regimes murdering us in hundreds?

This thread is here to let people like you know that there might be a different opinion to that which you hold. you have to acknowledge that people who hold these views are also Muslims as much as you are a Muslim,no more nor less, unless they are different in Allah's eye, in which case this is only for him to judge.

Allah sent his last prophet already 1400 years ago, BUT His(pbuh) status doesn't concern us today???

That attitude baffles me from a muslim. You need to look outside your group, like i've said above.

You listen from your scholars/preachers/teachers repeating what you believe again and again, this doesn't make only your viewpoint the right viewpoint.

I think most of the points in Islam have been discussed and debated in the last 1400 years so why don't we all move on? [sarcasm]
What exactly are you doing on this forum?

It is healthy for the ummah from different proximities/groups and nationalities to discuss in a pleasant way their differences, and to understand differences don't mean we are at war with each other.

subhanallah

[Zjohkrbi]

Both the barzakh and life in the grave are connected. I heard this in the lecture of Shaykh Hasan Ali. The body is punished or rewarded in the grave. The Rooh goes to illiyeen(a heaven like place) or Sijjiyeen(a hell like place). But there is still a connection between Rooh and the body, which is in the grave.

Watch : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAhgITGEObI

A bit long but very good lecture.

Thanks for explaining...JazakAllah kyran.

[mas-dkt-sive]

i am neither shia , barelwi , deobandi , just a sunni who follows Islam just as how Rasul (S) followed Islam ,

Brother Malhan,

I would be reluctant to use the "K" word again, but you seem to be creating alot of fitna in this thread and other threads.

What you need to understand is people won't change their beliefs to match yours. Ask yourself, would you change your beliefs to match their? If not, then why would they change their? if yes, then you have nothing to argue.

It is related:

Once a alim decided he had had enough of Moulana Rumi (ThHE Rumi) and set a date for a debate infront of an audience. He learnt all different ways of beliefs of all sects and planned on strategies to debtate each point. So he would once and for all get rid of this personality.

On the day of debate, at the start, he asked Moulana Rumi which one of the sects, he affiliated to so he can debate him appropriately, to which the moulana replied "to all of them". The alim said, how can that be, the sunnis cannot agree with the shias, and the shias cannot agree with sunnis. If they cannot agree with each other, how could you agree with all of the 73 different swects.

To this the moulana replied "yes, you are right, I agree with you also"

Subhanallah,

I give you in sadaqa, o brother marhan, any good that comes from the readers of this story, because of reading it here from me, even if it be a smile or a "niyyah" to be more accepting of their brothers/sisters in future.

be more accepting of your brothers, please

[Qvqnubpj]

Salaamu alaiykum
Why is this still a matter of discussion? Seriously brothers. I've warned before. Don't be using your own logic to derive your own meanings. Don't tell me that the verse in the Quran about the shuhada (May Allah exalt them) and the prophets (May Allah's peace be upon them all) means that they're alive physically as they were in the real world. What right do you have to make such a statement. I acknowledge those verses completely and I tell you scholars from islamqa and others say that this is in the barzakh. They are ALIVE. I'm not rejecting that. But they are ALIVE in the barzakh (according to scholars from islamqa). Are you telling me that you hold an opinion other than the ijma' of scholars such as shaykh Ibn Uthaymin RA? As far as the scholars you quoted, I heard someone say Imam Suyuti. You do know that there are claims that he also believes the Mawlid to be something to be celebrated. Is that the "aqeedah of the ahlus sunnah wal jama'ah"? As far as shaykh Hasan Ali and others (May Allah overlook all their short comings), are you telling me that these people are scholars? Do they even involve in the ijma' of scholars? Let us be safe and leave this topic alone.

[stastony]

Brother Malhan,

I would be reluctant to use the "K" word again, but you seem to be creating alot of fitna in this thread and other threads.

What you need to understand is people won't change their beliefs to match yours. Ask yourself, would you change your beliefs to match their? If not, then why would they change their? if yes, then you have nothing to argue.

It is related:

Once a alim decided he had had enough of Moulana Rumi (ThHE Rumi) and set a date for a debate infront of an audience. He learnt all different ways of beliefs of all sects and planned on strategies to debtate each point. So he would once and for all get rid of this personality.

On the day of debate, at the start, he asked Moulana Rumi which one of the sects, he affiliated to so he can debate him appropriately, to which the moulana replied "to all of them". The alim said, how can that be, the sunnis cannot agree with the shias, and the shias cannot agree with sunnis. If they cannot agree with each other, how could you agree with all of the 73 different swects.

To this the moulana replied "yes, you are right, I agree with you also"

Subhanallah,

I give you in sadaqa, o brother marhan, any good that comes from the readers of this story, because of reading it here from me, even if it be a smile or a "niyyah" to be more accepting of their brothers/sisters in future.

be more accepting of your brothers, please

sorry i didnt intended to be fitna ,yes i am little aggressive person , sorry if i hurt someone

[Ekzamenov]

A six year old school boy / girl could have answered this illogical question

Unreal how some people have literally drifted into kufr with there disgusting thinking

To sum it up. No he is not alive

Read some aytul kursi and get yourself to a mosque and repent

[Binuilienzync]

A six year old school boy / girl could have answered this illogical question

Unreal how some people have literally drifted into kufr with there disgusting thinking

To sum it up. No he is not alive

Read some aytul kursi and get yourself to a mosque and repent

Brother think before posting

Here is Mufti Ebrahim Desai's fatwa on this



Life of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam)in the grave & Salutations upon him

The worldly life of Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) has ended:

Allah (SWT) explicitly confirms that immorality was not granted to our beloved Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) and indeed that his worldly life willone day come to an end:

وَمَا جَعَلۡنَا لِبَشَرٍ۬ مِّن قَبۡلِكَ ٱلۡخُلۡدَ*ۖ أَفَإِيْن مِّتَّ فَهُمُ ٱلۡخَـٰلِدُونَ

[21:34] We did not assign immortality to any human (even) before you. So, if you die, will they live for ever?

إِنَّكَ مَيِّتٌ۬ وَإِنَّہُم مَّيِّتُونَ

[39:30] Verily, you are to die and they are to die.

Life of Shuhada (Martyrs):

Allah (SWT) explicitly confirms the life of Shuhada (martyrs) in the Qur'aan:

وَلَا تَقُولُواْ لِمَن يُقۡتَلُ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ أَمۡوَٲتُۢۚ بَلۡ أَحۡيَآءٌ۬ وَلَـٰكِن لَّا تَشۡعُرُونَ

[2:154] Do not say of those who are slain in the way of Allah that they are dead. Instead, they are alive, but you do not perceive.{jb_bluebox}

The prophets of Allah (SWT) are the best and the most noble of Allah (SWT)'s creation with our beloved Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) ranked the most high amongst them therefore since the Shuhada (martyrs) are alive we can state that the prophets of Allah (SWT) including the best amongst all of them Nabi (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is also alive.

Bodies of Prophets (AS) don't decay:

The earth is forbidden from decomposing the bodies of the prophets of Allah (AS).

حَدَّثَنَا هَارُونُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ حَدَّثَنَا حُسَيْنُ بْنُ عَلِيٍّ عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ بْنِ يَزِيدَ بْنِ جَابِرٍ عَنْ أَبِي الْأَشْعَثِ الصَّنْعَانِيِّ عَنْ أَوْسِ بْنِ أَوْسٍ قَالَ قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ إِنَّ مِنْ أَفْضَلِ أَيَّامِكُمْ يَوْمَ الْجُمُعَةِ فِيهِ خُلِقَ آدَمُ وَفِيهِ قُبِضَ وَفِيهِ النَّفْخَةُ وَفِيهِ الصَّعْقَةُ فَأَكْثِرُوا عَلَيَّ مِنْ الصَّلَاةِ فِيهِ فَإِنَّ صَلَاتَكُمْ مَعْرُوضَةٌ عَلَيَّ قَالَ قَالُوا يَا رَسُولَ اللَّهِ وَكَيْفَ تُعْرَضُ صَلَاتُنَا عَلَيْكَ وَقَدْ أَرِمْتَ يَقُولُونَ بَلِيتَ فَقَالَ إِنَّ اللَّهَ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ حَرَّمَ عَلَى الْأَرْضِ أَجْسَادَ الْأَنْبِيَاءِ

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Aws ibn Aws (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: Among the most excellent of your days is Friday; on it Adam (AS) was created, on it he (AS) died, on it the last trumpet will be blown, and on it the shout will be made, so invoke more blessings on me that day, for your blessings will be submitted to me. The people asked: Apostle of Allah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam), how can it be that our blessings will be submitted to you while your body is decayed? He (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) replied: Allah, the Exalted, has prohibited the earth from consuming the bodies of Prophets. [Abi Dawud]{jb_bluebox}

Prophets are alive and they pray in their graves:

(حديث مرفوع) أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو سَعْدٍ أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْخَلِيلِ الصُّوفِيُّ ، رَحِمَهُ اللَّهُ ، قَالَ : أنبأ أَبُو أَحْمَدَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَدِيٍّ الْحَافِظُ , قَالَ : ثنا قُسْطَنْطِينُ بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الرُّومِيُّ , قَالَ : ثنا الْحَسَنُ بْنُ عَرَفَةَ , قَالَ : حَدَّثَنِي الْحَسَنُ بْنُ قُتَيْبَةَ الْمَدَائِنِيُّ , ثنا الْمُسْتَلِمُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ الثَّقَفِيُّ , عَنِ الْحَجَّاجِ بْنِ الأَسْوَدِ , عَنْ ثَابِتٍ الْبُنَانِيِّ , عَنْ أَنَسٍ , رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " الأَنْبِيَاءُ أَحْيَاءٌ فِي قُبُورِهِمْ يُصَلُّونَ " , هَذَا حَدِيثٌ يُعَدُّ فِي إِفْرَادِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ قُتَيْبَةَ الْمَدَائِنِيِّ ، وَقَدْ رُوِيَ عَنْ يَحْيَى بْنِ أَبِي بُكَيْرٍ ، عَنِ الْمُسْتَلِمِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ ، عَنِ الْحَجَّاجِ ، عَنْ ثَابِتٍ ، عَنْ أَنَسِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ .

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Anas (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: The prophets (AS) are alive in their graves and they pray. [Baihaqi]{jb_bluebox}

Nature of life of Prophets & Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam):

Prophets of Allah (AS) and Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) are alive in their graves and possess the life of Barzakh but in reality we do not know the exact nature and reality of their lives.

Angels convey the Salutations to Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) from distance:

When Salautations and Salawaat are sent to the noble and beloved Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) from a distance then it is carried by specially appointed Angels and presented in his noble and auspicious presence.

(حديث مرفوع) وَفِي هَذَا الْمَعْنَى الْحَدِيثُ الَّذِي أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو الْقَاسِمِ عَلِيُّ بْنُ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ عَلِيٍّ الطَّهْمَانِيُّ ، ثنا أَبُو الْحَسَنِ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ الْكَارِزِيُّ ، ثنا عَلِيُّ بْنُ عَبْدِ الْعَزِيزِ , ثنا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ , ثنا سُفْيَانُ , عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ السَّائِبِ , عَنْ زَاذَانَ , عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ بْنِ مَسْعُودٍ , رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ ، قَالَ : قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ : " إِنَّ لِلَّهِ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ مَلائِكَةً سَيَّاحِينَ فِي الأَرْضِ يُبَلِّغُونِي عَنْ أُمَّتِي السَّلامَ " .

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Abdullah Ibn Masood (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said: Indeed there are many Angels of Allah (SWT) who sojourn the Earth and bring the Salam of my Ummati to me.[Baihaqi]{jb_bluebox}

Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) personally hears Salutations from close:

((حديث مرفوع) أَخْبَرَنَا عَلِيُّ بْنُ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ بِشْرَانَ , أنبأ أَبُو جَعْفَرٍ الرَّزَّازُ , ثنا عِيسَى بْنُ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ الطَّيَالِسِيُّ , ثنا الْعَلاءُ بْنُ عَمْرٍو الْحَنَفِيُّ , ثنا أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ , عَنِ الأَعْمَشِ , عَنْ أَبِي صَالِحٍ , عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَةَ , رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُ النَّبِيِّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ، قَالَ : " مَنْ صَلَّى عَلَيَّ عِنْدَ قَبْرِي سَمِعْتُهُ ، وَمَنْ صَلَّى عَلَيَّ نَائِيًا مِنْهُ أُبْلِغْتُهُ " ، أَبُو عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ هَذَا هُوَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ مَرْوَانَ السُّدِّيُّ فِيمَا أَرَى وَفِيهِ نَظَرٌ , وَقَدْ مَضَى مَا يُؤَكِّدُهُ . .

{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Anas (RA) narrated that the Prophet (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) said:Whoever invokes blessings on me at my grave, I hear him, and whoever invokes blessings on me from afar, I am informed about it.[Baihaqi]{jb_bluebox}

This narration has been Authenticated by the famous Hadeeth Master Al-Hafidh Ibn Haj'r Al-Asqalani (RA):

بسند جيد بلفظ من صلى على عند قبري سمعته ومن صلى علي نائيا بلغته

Sahaba (RA) sending Salutations to Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam):

It has been an unbroken practise of the Muslims to send Salutations to not only Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) but also to Khalifatur-Rasool Sayyidina Abu-Bak'r As-Sideeq (RA) and also to Ameerul-Mumineen Sayyidina Umar (RA) in Madina and the practise of the Sahaba (RA) is confirmed by this Authentic Athar of Sayydina Abdullah Ibn Umar (RA).

فقد كان ابن عمر يقول : السلام عليك يا رسول الله ، السلام عليك يا أبا بكر ، السلام عليك يا أبتِ ، ثم ينصرف . صححه الحافظ ابن حجر


{jb_bluebox}Sayyidina Ibn ‘Umar (RA) used to say, “Al-salaamu ‘alayka ya Rasool-Allaah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam), al-salaam ‘alayka ya Aba Bakr (RA), al-salaamu ‘alayka ya abati (O my father) (RA),” then he would go away. This was classed as saheeh by al-Haafiz ibn Hajar.

There is no harm in saying the Salutations in the words of one's own choice.


Ahlus-Sunnah wal Jammah believe that Rasul-ullah (Sallaho Alaihe Wassallam) is alive in his grave!

Shaykh (Mufti) Ebrahim Desai (HA)

Question: Dear Mufti Could you give us proof from Quran and Sunnah what you have explain and you cliam that Ahlus sunnah Wal Jamaa beleive prophet Muhammed (saw) is alive in his grave. What really Ahlus sunnah Wal Jamaa believe in this matter is www.*************; The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was a human being who suffered from sickness and real death the same as any other human being. Allaah said (interpretation of the meaning): "Verily, you (O Muhammad) will die, and verily, they (too) will die" [al-Zumar 39:30] "And We granted not to any human being immortality before you (O Muhammad); then if you die, would they live forever?" [al-Anbiyaa' 21:34] The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) died and was buried in his grave, hence al-Siddeeq Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "Whoever used to worship Muhammad, Muhammad has died, but whoever used to worship Allaah, Allaah is alive and will never die."?

In your question, you have quoted a few Aayats and the incident of Abu Bakr (Radhiallaahu Anhu). In actual fact, these have nothing to do with Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) being alive in his grave because the Aayat and the incident of Abu Bakr (Radhiallaahu Anhu) have to do with Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) passing away from this Dunyaa. This is an accepted fact. Everyone agrees that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) passed away for this earthly life.

Everyone also agrees that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) is alive in his grave but what has to be understood is how is Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) alive in his grave. If this is understood, I am sure that your objection will evaporate.

Firstly, it should be known that after the death of a person the life of Barzakh (interval between death and resurrection) takes place. In this regards, both the Muslim and the Kaafir are equal. This is the view of Ahlus sunnah wal Jamaa. This has been proven through many Ahaadith. To cite a few: When a person is placed in his grave and his companions depart from him, verily, he hears their footsteps, two angels come to him, they make him sit up, then they address him...' (Mishkaat pg.24; Qadeemi)

Once a Jewess came to Aaisha (Radhiallaahu Anha), she spoke about the punishment of the grave and then said, 'May Allah protect you from the punishment of grave.' Later, Hadhrat Aaisha (Radhiallaahu Anha) questioned Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) concerning the punishment of the grave. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied, 'Yes, the punishment of the grave is Haqq...' (Mishkaat pg.25; Qadeemi)

These Ahaadith explicitly prove that after a person passes away, he enters into a different phase of living and this is the life of Barzakh. However, in regards to this life there are various levels. Allah Ta'ala says in regards to the Shuhadaa, 'And do not term those who have been killed in the path of Allah as dead. In fact, they are living but you perceive not.' (Baqarah 153). From here, it is even more evident that a person dying in the world does not affect his status of being alive in the life of Barzakh.

The question that now arises is, what is the meaning of them being alive? Mufti Shafi (RA) commentating on this verse in his Ma'ariful Qur'aan explains, 'It is well known that from the Islamic viewpoint, every dead person has a special type of life in Barzakh through which he experiences either punishment or enjoyment. However, there are different levels in this life. There is the level which is general for all, and there are special levels for the Ambiyaa, the martyrs and the pious. With regards to the reality of those levels, the best explanation is given by Moulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi (RA) in his Bayaanul Qur'aan.

The difference between the life of a martyr and of a normal person is that the effects of life is stronger in a martyr. Its example is that of the difference of feeling between the fingertips and the heel of the foot. Life flows in both of them, but feeling and perception is much greater in the fingertips. In the same manner is the effect of life greater in the martyr to the extent it even affects the body of the Shaheed in that it stays fresh in the grave and does not decompose, as is substantiated in the Ahaadith and from eye-witness accounts. This effect of life is only in regards to Barzakh, therefore, in Dunya all the laws that apply to a dead person will also apply to the martyr, his inheritance will be divided and his wife will be able to marry another person. A similar type of life is granted to the Anbiyaa but the effect of their life is even stronger to the extent that together with their bodies being preserved, some effects of their lives in Barzak also become apparent in Dunyaa, hence, their inheritance is not divisible and neither can their wives remarry.

This is what we mean when we speak of Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) being alive in his grave. Now for some proofs:

1 From Aayat2/253, it is proven that the martyrs are alive in their graves. Which this is established for the martyrs, then it is also established for the Anbiyaa, because;a ) This position has been bestowed on the martyrs as an honour for them. There is no doubt that there is no rank higher than the rank of the Anbiyaa and that the position of the Anbiyaa is higher and more perfect than the position of all the Shuhadaa. Therefore, it is impossible that this honour is given to the Shuhadaa and the Anbiyaa remained deprived of it, b) This position is granted to the Shuhadaa is a recompense for their Jihaad and for spending their lives in the way of Allah. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) was the one who instituted this practice, who called them to this practice and guided them towards it. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) has said, 'Whoever institutes a noble practice, for him is its reward and the reward of those who act on it until the day of Qiyaamah.'



2 Anas ibn Maaliki (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'The Anbiyaa (Alayhis salaam) are living in their graves, they perform Salaat.' (Majmauz-zawaaid vol.8 pg.211)



3 The lives of the Anbiyaa (Alayhis salaam) are also proven through the Ahaadith of Mi'raaj narrated by Bukhari and Muslim where it is mentioned that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) led the Anbiyaa (Alayhis salaam) is Salaat and also his meeting them in Jannah.



4 ibn Mas'ood (Radhiallaahu Anhu) narrates that Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Verily, Allah has angels travelling through the earth, they bring to me the salaams of my Ummah.' (Targheeb wat Tarheeb vol.2 pg.498)



5 Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, 'Whoever recites Salawaat upon me (in my presence, I hear it and whoever sends Salawaat to me and he is not by me, his Salawaat is brought to me.' (Nasaaie)

And Allah knows best

Wassalam

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah

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A six year old school boy / girl could have answered this illogical question

Unreal how some people have literally drifted into kufr with there disgusting thinking

To sum it up. No he is not alive

Read some aytul kursi and get yourself to a mosque and repent

And a five year old could easily see that your IQ level is very low compared to the general population. Maybe that is why after the evidence (from Quran and Hadith) posted; you still reject that Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) is alive in grave?

I suggest whichever mullah you are following - abandon him find an educated one and get medical help as well.

[mas-dkt-sive]

A six year old school boy / girl could have answered this illogical question

Unreal how some people have literally drifted into kufr with there disgusting thinking

To sum it up. No he is not alive

Read some aytul kursi and get yourself to a mosque and repent

You do realise this forum consists mostly of south asian sunnis(deobandits and brillo pads), which number in 100 MILLIONS, and most of us believe the prophet is alive, so that,s a heck of alot of people that need to repent.

Do you charge a fees to allow people to repent? What is this fee? Do you accept silver? I,ve only got 11 pieces.

[Zjohkrbi]

This may relate to this issue:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYh7n...eature=related

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This may relate to this issue:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYh7n...eature=related

Jazakallahu khaiyrun. It relates but it doesn't really help. In fact, as soon as I heard the collective salaam on the prophet Muhammad PBUH I knew what type of people these were (no one from scholarly standard). All I can say is that I have researched and found the answer to be that he PBUH is Alive, but not physically in the grave. This is from the neccassary procedures it takes to decide an islamic matter - the quran, sunnah, and ijma' of scholars. And I think there's not much anyone can do to change such a stance once such procedures have been carried out. I just hope those who believe he PBUH is physically alive have convinced themselves through the correct means. If so, then let us leave this argument inshallah.
Salaam.

[Meowmeowz]

Here is a question...(sorry to go off topic) slightly.
The prophet (saws) is alive in his grave just as he narrated he saw Mussa (AS0 alive in his grave praying.
The prophet (saws) can hear the durrods that we sent on Fridays and any other day of the week it is passed over via the angels.
Now my question is when we visit the Rozah, can the prophet (saws) see us ?
Someone once a long time ago said something along the lines of imagine if you go there to the roza and you don't have a beard will the prophet look at you or would he look away ? He said something along these lines which insinuated that the prophet (saws) could see us?
Is this a view of Ahle sunnah?
What is the Deobandhi view on this?

Sorry to bring this back uo but just wondering if someone could answer this?

[bashansasasasa]

A six year old school boy / girl could have answered this illogical question

Unreal how some people have literally drifted into kufr with there disgusting thinking

To sum it up. No he is not alive

Read some aytul kursi and get yourself to a mosque and repent

First we had a ten year old. Now even six year old boys and girls are flooding this forum. Yikes!

Wallahul Musta'n

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Sorry to bring this back uo but just wondering if someone could answer this?

Ah akhi, just leave it alone. Keep a neutral stance. That could save you from either commiting shirk (by giving the prophet Muhammad PBUH qualities which he shouldn't have) or denial of Allah's blessing (by denying the blessings Allah gave to the prophet Muhammad PBUH). Besides, isn't it scarier that Allah sees you all the time. If suddenly the Prophet Muhammad PBUH seeing you makes you scared and when he PBUH doesn't, doesn't make you scared, what does that say about your standards towards Allah SWT?

[Meowmeowz]

Ah akhi, just leave it alone. Keep a neutral stance. That could save you from either commiting shirk (by giving the prophet Muhammad PBUH qualities which he shouldn't have) or denial of Allah's blessing (by denying the blessings Allah gave to the prophet Muhammad PBUH). Besides, isn't it scarier that Allah sees you all the time. If suddenly the Prophet Muhammad PBUH seeing you makes you scared and when he PBUH doesn't, doesn't make you scared, what does that say about your standards towards Allah SWT?

Brother ..

It's not my view or my belief so please question now my standards towards Allah SWT.

I asked;
Is this a view of Ahle sunnah?
What is the Deobandhi view on this?

But your right some things are best left alone so i take my question back and require no further replies to it.

[Qvqnubpj]

Brother ..

It's not my view or my belief so please question now my standards towards Allah SWT.

I asked;
Is this a view of Ahle sunnah?
What is the Deobandhi view on this?

But your right some things are best left alone so i take my question back and require no further replies to it.

Salaamu alaiykum akhi. Alaahifta alaiyk. May Allah increase your rank. Sorry for the misunderstanding. When I said your I wasn't talking about you. I was being general to anyone who believes in that. Why should I question your standards towards Allah SWT when my ones are pretty weak? Wouldn't make sense. Hope that cleared things up.