[iroxmxinau]

sorry if i hurt you but I wasnt mean to say that

any way as far as muslim concern, I think alhmd environment in UK is really good (my experience) but yeah place and community also plays important role

if you want to go UK than Bradford where I went was the cheapest place in terms of accommodation and food

there are many university around countries but if you just want to go there than u can choose any normal college so that you can pay less and may be get more visa (if you choose diploma or foundation plus main course)

hope this will helpful

[Sdzqerty]

I am not too sure about the rest as I am temporarily here. However from what I have seen students visa is quite easy.

However if you will join a madressah, make sure it's not only be because you want to be in the country.

u have really shown me a different but excellent direction.
it will be my pleasure to apply for courses in madrsa. could u please inform me more about it.
will it be possible for me to pay the fees on odd jobs
if u have any mahram in SA then can u pls provide his emailID?????

[Sdzqerty]

u have really shown me a different but excellent direction.
it will be my pleasure to apply for courses in madrsa. could u please inform me more about it.
will it be possible for me to pay the fees on odd jobs
if u have any mahram in SA then can u pls provide his emailID?????

people reminded me of my forgotten ambition and ran away like anything.

its more than 2 yrs now i am wandering like a dog.

[dosugxxx]

Here are some madaris in SA you can contact. Hope this helps,

Madressah Taleemuddeen (check my sig pic)
Madressah In'aamiyyah -> http://www.alinaam.co.za/
Madressah Azadville -> http://www.dua.org.za/index.html
Madressah Numaniyyah -> http://daruliftaa.net/Trusted-Links/numaniyyah.html

[Liaiskelile]

salam

Zakariya here brother of abu uzair

I have done my master from UK and just came India

I might be rude to ask this question but its very important, do u want to go for study or you want to go there to make money as people choose cheap uni when they only came to make money

but if you want to study first and than u can looking for job but as some one mentioned above, job market in European country at the moment very tough. I am not discouraging you but I am telling you truth

if you need more help do let me know

will be more than happy to help you if I can do something for you

regards

zakariya

assalamu alaikum
are you ogiginal brother of shaikh abu uzair who is owner of www.attablig.com?
afterall welcome to forum
we will get benifit from you also ia

[Sdzqerty]

sorry if i hurt you but I wasnt mean to say that

any way as far as muslim concern, I think alhmd environment in UK is really good (my experience) but yeah place and community also plays important role

if you want to go UK than Bradford where I went was the cheapest place in terms of accommodation and food

there are many university around countries but if you just want to go there than u can choose any normal college so that you can pay less and may be get more visa (if you choose diploma or foundation plus main course)

hope this will helpful

jazakallah bhai
can u provide some more information..
how about PR & citizenship then.

i M really very confused what to do.

[Sdzqerty]

going through extreme depression. unable to decide what to do

[dosugxxx]

Have you consulted any ulama to take mashwara? Also do istikhara.

[StitsVobsaith]

brother timeup tell us the options you have so far and then people can give you advice inshallah.

[Sdzqerty]

brother timeup tell us the options you have so far and then people can give you advice inshallah.

that is the problem bro..
one time i feel ther r so many options & all of a sudden finds my self w/o an option..

what should i do brother.
tell me if ther's anything in your mind.

[Sdzqerty]

Have you consulted any ulama to take mashwara? Also do istikhara.

yes, i somehow got the id of a mufti & mailed him but ah! my nahusat never leaves me..

[StitsVobsaith]

bro timeup you have to be realistic. Either you have options or you don't. You have to work with the ground reality. I mean do you have any money saved up? What is your intention for moving? If you want to leave your country purely for islamic reasons then I would think a good south african daruloom would be good. The UK is pretty tough these days for foreigners unless you have something already arranged which would take a lot of time, money as well as contacts. My dad tried to arrange something for a cousin of mine recently and was not successful. A cousin sister of mine has been married to a guy from India for the last 3 years or so but still the guy cannot get a visa to come to the UK as the system is getting more complex. The problem is even if you do come UK what will you do? There are many people born and raised in the UK without a job. So you need to be realistic bro. Tell me your options etc.

[Sdzqerty]

bro timeup you have to be realistic. Either you have options or you don't. You have to work with the ground reality. I mean do you have any money saved up?

No..
What is your intention for moving?
If you want to leave your country purely for islamic reasons then I would think a good south african daruloom would be good. is applying to a darul uloom an only criteria for intentions to be purely for islamic reasons??
The problem is even if you do come UK what will you do? odd jobs may be..but ofcourse neeed citizenship.
There are many people born and raised in the UK without a job. cant anybody survive on odd jobs?? i think i can

So you need to be realistic bro. Tell me your options etc. here r some options. u decide whether its realistic or not..

1. aplying to a univ(but it requires money) and then try for PR after coming there..
2. appplying to an islamic univ(donno whther its applicable) and then......
3. be sponsored by someone(HERE i have mentioned in how many ways one can sponsor) and then...
4. finally ...ok unrealisitc.

[StitsVobsaith]

No..

This would be the biggest problem. Moving without money



The reason I asked you is that intention is very important. If it is purely islamic I would say daruloom in south africa otherwise if it's for citizenship something else and money something else (i.e. some gulf countries are good to make money but you cant get citizenship)

is applying to a darul uloom an only criteria for intentions to be purely for islamic reasons??

Sorry don't get this bro

odd jobs may be..but ofcourse neeed citizenship.

Brother in UK it is very difficult to get odd jobs.

cant anybody survive on odd jobs?? i think i can

People can survive on odd jobs in certain places like Bolton where rent is cheaper than london but the problem is where will you find these odd jobs.



here r some options. u decide whether its realistic or not..

1. aplying to a univ(but it requires money) and then try for PR after coming there..
2. appplying to an islamic univ(donno whther its applicable) and then......
3. be sponsored by someone(HERE i have mentioned in how many ways one can sponsor) and then...
4. finally ...ok unrealisitc.

1. Not realistic as you have no money. Even if you apply for a university there is no guarantee of any income.
2. could be a good option i.e. a south african daruloom. You study for the next 6-8 years, all expenses paid, then become a maulana and reside in south africa. You can then get citizenship. The problem with this is your niyah.
3. Could be a good way but the person would need to know you well.

[blohannaserri]

wow wow wow
is it really easy for internationa] students??
i dont mind applying to a madarsah but what about the citizenship then???

Would like to find out if the email I sent was useful? If you need to know anything further let me know.

I can direct you to this where you might find useful information.

Regarding citizenship, you can read all about it here.

Hope that all helps...

[Sdzqerty]

came across this "Oxford Centre for Islamic Studies Scholarships(OCISS)

" HERE but the dead line is over.. ah!

anybody knows anysuch thing any where??
brother london need your email..