[TimoPizaz]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, im just not very knowledgeable about Islamic history.

So im hearing and reading things about some sort of enmity between Fatima (radhiallahu anha) and Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu). Im confused, did Fatima really hate Abu Bakr? If yes, then why? What was the cause of this hatred between them.

Someone please clear up my confusion.

[neerewed]

Bismihee Ta'aala

Asalamualaikum.

Are you visiting shia websites? How can Fatima (RA) hate Abu Bakr (RA) when he was the closest to our beloved Nabi (SWT)?

In short, your information is false. Don't take information from anywhere. Be careful where you take your information from.

[TimoPizaz]

Bismihee Ta'aala

Asalamualaikum.

Are you visiting shia websites? How can Fatima (RA) hate Abu Bakr (RA) when he was the closest to our beloved Nabi (SWT)?

In short, your information is false. Don't take information from anywhere. Be careful where you take your information from.

No, im reading both sunni and shia versions. In both versions, there is a conflict between Abu Bakr and Fatima over some piece of land called Fadak. Sunnis say that the conflict was resolved before Fatima died. Shias say that Fatima died still angry at Abu Bakr and did not allow him or Umar (ra) to come to her funeral. The hadith narrating the shia version is apparently in sahih bukhari.

Someone explain this.

[juptVatoSoito]

This is one of the favourate Shia topics which they twist like anything.

I shall explain the incident in short:
Abu Bakr (ra) didn't give the piece of land to Fatima (ra) because Rasoolullah had taught him that "We (Prophets) do not have any heirs; what we leave behind is Sadaqa (charity)." Fatima (ra) later accepted the issue and was in good terms with Abu Bakr (ra). There are also two sahih hadith which mentions that it was Abu Bakr (ra) who lead the janaza prayer of Fatima (ra). When Abu Bakr ask Ali (ra) to lead the prayer, Ali (ra) declined and replied: "in presence of Khalifa of RasoolAllah[saw] how can I".

I m quoting the hadith on which I posted the above:

1) Bukhari :: Book 59 :: Volume 5 :: Hadith 368

Narrated ‘Aisha: Fatima and Al’Abbas came to Abu Bakr, claiming their inheritance of the Prophet’s land of Fadak and his share from Khaibar. Abu Bakr said, ”I heard the Prophet(saw) saying, ‘Our property is not inherited, and whatever we leave is to be given in charity. But the family of Muhammad can take their sustenance from this property.’ By Allah, I would love to do good to the Kith and kin of Allah’s Apostle rather than to my own Kith and kin.”

2) Tirmidhi: 1614

جَاءَتْ فَاطِمَةُ إِلَى أَبِي بَكْرٍ فَقَالَتْ مَنْ يَرِثُكَ قَالَ أَهْلِي وَوَلَدِي قَالَتْ فَمَا لِي لَا أَرِثُ أَبِي
فَقَالَ أَبُو بَكْرٍ سمَِعْتُ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَقُولُ لَا نُورَثُ وَلَكِنِّي أَعُولُ مَنْ
كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يَعُولُهُ وَأُنْفِقُ عَلَى مَنْ كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ
عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ يُنْفِقُ عَلَيْهِ

Sayyidina Abu Hurayrah (ra) reported that Sayyidiah Fatimah (ra) came to Sayyidina Abu Bakr (ra) and asked, “Who will inherit you?” He said, “My wife and my children.”
She asked, “Then, what is with me that I do not inherit my father?” So, Abu Bakr (SAW) said, “I had heard Allah’s Messenger (SAW) say : 'We are not inherited'. But, I will support whom Allah’s Messenger.i used to support and I will provide whom he used to provide.”

3) صلى أبو بكر رضي الله عنه على فاطمة بنت رسول الله فكبر عليها أربعًا

Hammad narrate from Ibrahim Nakhi that Hz. Abu Bakr[ra] lead salah-e-Janaza of Bibi Fatima Bint Muhammad[ra] with four Takbeers [ Tabqaat(Ibn Saad) Vol 8, Page 16]

4) When Hz. Fatima[ra] died Hz. Abu Bakr[ra] and Hz. Umar[ra] came, Hz. Abu Bakr[ra] asked Hz. Ali[ra] to lead prayer, Hz.Ali[ra] declined and said in presence of Khalifa of RasoolAllah[saw] how can I.
[ Ali Mutaqi Al Nahdi author of Kanzal Amaal Vol 6 page 318, narrated through Khatib from Baqir]

[juptVatoSoito]

There are numerous hadith which mentions the issue between Fatima(ra) and Abu Bakr(ra). Of that 2 were from Aisha(ra), of that only one has the word 'angry' in it. There is a reason why this is there in the text of the hadith. Here is the hadith in question: All these are from http://islamistruth.wordpress.com/20...-vs-falsehood/


1. Bukhari :: Book 53 :: Volume 4 :: Hadith 325

Narrated ‘Aisha: (mother of the believers) After the death of Allah ‘s Apostle Fatima the daughter of Allah’s Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq to give her, her share of inheritance from what Allah’s Apostle had left of the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting) which Allah had given him. Abu Bakr said to her, “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqa (to be used for charity).” Fatima, the daughter of Allah’s Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died. Fatima remained alive for six months after the death of Allah’s Apostle.

She used to ask Abu Bakr for her share from the property of Allah’s Apostle which he left at Khaibar, and Fadak, and his property at Medina (devoted for charity). Abu Bakr refused to give her that property and said, “I will not leave anything Allah’s Apostle used to do, because I am afraid that if I left something from the Prophet’s tradition, then I would go astray.” (Later on) Umar gave the Prophet’s property (of Sadaqa) at Medina to ‘Ali and ‘Abbas, but he withheld the properties of Khaibar and Fadak in his custody and said, “These two properties are the Sadaqa which Allah’s Apostle used to use for his expenditures and urgent needs. Now their management is to be entrusted to the ruler.” (Az-Zuhrl said, “They have been managed in this way till today.”)


Now some points from SUNNI HADITH SCIENCE:

There is one terminology called Mudraj in Hadith sciences.

The word “anger” is only mentioned in the Hadith transmitted from Hazrat Aisha[ra]. It is not mentioned in the Hadith narrated from other companions like Hazrat Abu Huraira, Hazrat Um Hani, etc.

Further the hadith narrated from Hazrat Aisha is of two types, one type mentions the word “anger” while the other type does not mention “anger”. The hadith which mention the word “anger” are all narrated by Ibn Shahab Zehri [well known for his idraaj of statements].

Al-Zuhri make idraaj of statements into hadiths from time to time, yet, he does it mainly to explain it.
You can find many examples in a book by Al-Khateeb Al-Baghdaadi that gives examples of Mudraj statements.
Here is the most famous one that comes to mind.

أول ما بدئ بالرسول الوحي قالت: كان يتحنث في غار حراء والتحنث التعبد الليالي ذوات العدد
الراوي: عائشة المحدث: ابن عثيمين – المصدر: شرح النزهة لابن عثيمين – الصفحة أو الرقم: 208
خلاصة حكم المحدث: عبارة (والتحنث: التعبد) مدرجة من كلام الزهري تفسيرا للحديث

This means that after Hazrat Abu Bakr RA had mentioned the reason for not giving Hazrat Fatima RA the share in Fadak, the latter had become silent after being satisfied. The narrator equated “silence” to “anger” and added the words to the hadith [to explain it]. This is also known as Mudraj in Hadith sciences.

“An addition by a reporter to the text of the saying being narrated is termed mudraj (interpolated).

For example, al-Khatib relates via Abu Qattan and Shababah — Shu’bah — Muhammad b. Ziyad — Abu Hurairah — The Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), who said, “Perform the ablution fully; woe to the heels from the Fire!”
Al-Khatib then remarks, “The statement, ‘Perform the ablution fully’ is made by Abu Hurairah, while the statement afterwards, ‘Woe to the heels from the Fire!’, is that of the Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace). The distinction between the two is understood from the narration of al- Bukhari, who transmits the same hadith and quotes Abu Hurairah as saying, “Complete the ablution, for Abu ‘l-Qasim (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said: ‘Woe to the heels from the Fire!’.”

[i.e. why we want each & every hadith on fadak issue to know the truth. & our HADITH SCIENCE is not joke as that of SHIA's.]

Such an addition may be found in the beginning, in the middle, or at the end, often in explanation of a term used. Idraj (interpolation) is mostly found in the text, although a few examples show that such additions are found in the isnad as well, where the reporter grafts a part of one isnad into another.

A reporter found to be in the habit of intentional idraj is generally unacceptable and considered a liar. However, the traditionists are more lenient towards those reporters who may do so forgetfully or in order to explain a difficult word”.

[juptVatoSoito]

Proof from both Sunni and SHIA sources that Fatima(ra) was pleased with Abu Bakr(ra) in this matter.

http://islamistruth.wordpress.com/20...a%20narrations

According to both Sunni and Shia narrations, Hadrat Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu) was greatly saddened by the developments and by Hadrat Fatima’s displeasure. He went to great lengths to please her while remaining firm on the Shariah. He went to her home, stood at her door in the midday sun and asked Hadrat Ali (radhiallahu anhu) to be his intercessor in his sincere attempt to placate and please Hadrat Fatima (radhiallahu anha). Ultimately she became pleased with him and accepted his decision. These narrations appear in Madaarijun Nubuwwah, Kitaabul Wafaa, Baihaqi and in the commentaries of Mishkaat (all authoritative Kitaabs of the Ahlus Sunnah).

SUNNI SOURCES:
Kitaabul Muwaafiqah narrates that Anaani said:

“ Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu) came to the door of Fatima (radhiallahu anha) in the midday sun and said: ‘I shall not leave from here as long as the daughter of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) remains displeased with me. Hadrat Ali (radhiallahu anhu) came to Fatima (radhiallahu anha) and giving her an oath urged her to become pleased. Then she became pleased (with Hadrat Abu Bakr).”

Further narrations state: [as quoted above]

When Hadrat Fatima (radhiallahu anha) fell sick Abu Bakr Siddiq (radhiallahu anhu) came and asked permission to see her.

Ali said: “Fatima, here is Abu Bakr asking permission to see you.” She said: “Would you like me to give him permission?” (Al-Dhahabi said in the Siyar (Al Arna’ut ed. 2:121): “She applied the Sunna by not giving permission to anyone to enter her husbands house except by his command.”)

He said yes, whereupon she gave him permission. He entered to see her, seeking her good pleasure, and said: “By Allah! I did not leave my house, property, family, and tribe except to please Allah, and to please His Prophet, and to please you, the People of the House (ahl al bayt)! He continued to seek her good pleasure until she was pleased.”[*]

أخبرنا أبو عبد الله الحافظ ثنا أبو عبد الله محمد بن يعقوب الحافظ ثنا محمد بن عبد الوهاب ثنا عبدان بن عثمان العتكي بنيسابور ثنا أبو ضمرة عن إسماعيل بن أبي خالد عن الشعبي قال ثم لما مرضت فاطمة رضي الله عنها أتاها أبو بكر الصديق رضي الله عنه فاستأذن عليها فقال علي رضي الله عنه يا فاطمة هذا أبو بكر يستأذن عليك فقالت أتحب أن آذن له قال نعم فأذنت له فدخل عليها يترضاها وقال والله ما تركت الدار والمال والأهل والعشيرة إلا ابتغاء مرضاة الله ومرضاة رسوله ومرضاتكم أهل البيت ثم ترضاها حتى رضيت[*] Bayhaqi (rahimullah) in al Sunan al Kubra (6:300-301) and Dala’il al-Nubuwwa (7:273-281) who said: “It is narrated with a fair (hasan) chain.”

Muhibb al Din al-Tabari (rahimullah) cited it in al Riyad Al Nadira (2:96-97 #534) and Dhahabi (rahimullah)in the Siyar (Ibid).

Ibn Kathir (rahimullah) states it as Sahih in his Al Bidayah and Ibn Hajar (rahimullah) in his Fath Al Bari.


SHIA SOURCES:
Shia records also confirm that Hadrat Fatima (radhiallahu anha) became pleased with Hadrat Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu).

Ibn-i-Mitham writes in the context of interpreting Nahj-ul-Balaga: “Abu Bakr said to Fatima: Whatever belonged to your father, belongs to you as well. The Messenger of Allah kept something apart out of his personal share (fadak) and distributed the rest of it in the name of Allah. By Allah, I’ll do with you what he used to do with you. Fatima was pleased to hear these words, a confirmation of the Prophetic practice” { Ibn-i-Mitham al-Buhrani, Sharh Nahj-ul-Balaga, Vol.5, P. 107,109 , Tehran }

” إن أبا بكر قال لها : إن لك ما لأبيك ، كان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله يأخذ من فدك قوتكم ، ويقسم الباقي ويحمل منه في سبيل الله ، ولك على الله أن أصنع بها كما كان يصنع ، فرضيت بذلك وأخذت العهد عليه به

The Imaamiyyah Shia author of Hujjaajus Saalikeen states:

“Verily, when Abu Bakr saw that Fatima was annoyed with him, shunned him and did not speak to him after this on the issue of Fadak, he was much aggrieved on account of this. He resolved to please her. He went to her and said: ‘ Oh daughter of Rasulullah! You have spoken the truth in what you have claimed, but I saw Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) distributing it (i.e. the income of Fadak). He would give it to the Fuqaraa, Masaakeen and wayfarers after he gave your expenses and expenses of the workers.’ She then said:’ Do with it as my father, Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) had done.’ Abu Bakr said:’ I take an oath by Allah for you! It is incumbent on me to do with it what your father used do with it.’ Fatima said: ‘ By Allah! You should most certainly do so.’ Abu Bakr said: ‘ By Allah! I shall most certainly do so.’ Fatima said: ‘ O Allah! Be witness.’ Thus, she became pleased with this and she took a pledge from Abu Bakr. Abu Bakr would give them ( Fatima and others of the Ahl-e-Bait) expenses there from and distribute the balance to the Fuqaraa, Masaakeen and wayfarers.”

Comment: This narration is also in other books of the Imaamiyyah Shias. It confirms that Hadrat Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu) believed that Hadrat Fatima (radhiallahu anha) was truthful in her claim, but the practice of Rasulullah (sallallahu alayhi wasallam) convinced him that ownership was not given to Hadrat Fatima (radhiallahu anha). The accusation against Hadrat Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu) is therefore pure slander.

[GrolmangHat27]

I just don't understand the hue and cry of the Shia's over the inheritance of the Prophet's belongings. Did any one of the wives Rasulullah receive a share from the Prophet's belongings.

What belonged to the Messenger of Allah was his in entirety. The Wives of Rasulullah was his solely. They were forbidden to marry after his demise. The Muslims cannot marry the Wives of Rasulullah . Same was the issue with his blessed belongings. No inheritance

to amr123 for quoting the Hadith on the Prophets inheritance

[kazinopartnerkae]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, im just not very knowledgeable about Islamic history.

So im hearing and reading things about some sort of enmity between Fatima (radhiallahu anha) and Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu). Im confused, did Fatima really hate Abu Bakr? If yes, then why? What was the cause of this hatred between them.

Someone please clear up my confusion.

It seems these kind of threads are on the rise. Just the other day I saw a similar thread.

Please try to understand the kind of damage your doing to yourself and other Muslims by indulging yourself in these pursuits.

Be afraid of Allah , on the day all our hidden thoughts will be revealed how will you explain your love for Rasul Allah if you have an atom of doubt or bad thoughts about either ahle bayet or any of the shahaba.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-ncd...eature=related

[TimoPizaz]

Thank you amr123 for clearing up my confusing.
Sorry, I just got caught up in this mess.

What I dont get is how the shia can slander the greatest sahabiyy and closest friend of the Messenger(SAW)

[exeftWabreava]

I wonder if Fadak still exists and if there is still a farm there, with the produce given to charity?

[Assungusa]

I wonder if Fadak still exists and if there is still a farm there, with the produce given to charity?

Fadak still exists, but the Saudis try to prevent people (especially Hajj/Umrah visitors) from going there without a purpose because Shias venerate the area.

[GrolmangHat27]

The following Hadith will clear up the inheritance issue

Sayyiduna `Ali narrates that the supplication that the Prophet made most on the Day of Arafah was:

اللَّهُمَّ لَكَ الحَمْدُ كَالَّذي نَقُولُ وخَيْراً مِمَّا نَقُولُ اللَّهُمَّ لَكَ صَلاتِي ونُسُكِي ومَحْيَايَ ومَمَاتِي وإِلَيْكَ مَآبِي ولَكَ رَبِّ تُرَاثِي اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِنْ عَذابِ القَبْرِ ووَسْوَسَةِ الصَّدْرِ وشَتَاتِ الأَمْرِ اللَّهُمَّ إِنِّي أَعُوذُ بِكَ مِن شَرِّ ما تَهُبُّ بِهِ الرِّيحُ
[“O Allah to You belongs all praise, as we praise You and better than that. O Allah my prayer, worship, life and death are for You, and to You is my return. Everything I possess, my Lord, returns to You. O Allah I seek refuge in You from the punishment of the grave, the whispering of the devil and from my affairs being in disarray. O Allah I seek refuge in You from the evil which the wind carries”] Narrated by al-Tirmidhi

[T1ivuQGS]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, im just not very knowledgeable about Islamic history.

So im hearing and reading things about some sort of enmity between Fatima (radhiallahu anha) and Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu). Im confused, did Fatima really hate Abu Bakr? If yes, then why? What was the cause of this hatred between them.

Someone please clear up my confusion.

assalaamualiakum!
Hazrat Fatimah did not hate Hazrat Abu Bakr.but she was angry with him regarding injustice done to her.fadak was the issue.if you permit, may i clearify it.
Hazrat Abu Bakr usurped the land of Fadak and Fatima Zahra (as) asked him for her Right

As evidence we will rely on the following esteemed Sunni works:

Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 325 and Volume 5, Hadeeth number 546, pp 381-383

Sahih Muslim, Volume 2 page 72, Chapter 'Prophets leave no inheritance

Sunan Abu Dawood Book 19, Tribute, Spoils, and Rulership (Kitab Al-Kharaj, Wal-Fai' Wal-Imarah) Number 2967:

Sunan al Kabeera Volume, 6 page 30 (published in Hyderabad)

Riyadh al Nadira Volume, 4 page 231 (Baghdad publishers)

Sawaiqh al Muhriqa, page 21 Bab Muthaeen Abu Bakr

Maujam-ul-Buldan, Volume 3 page 312, Dhikr Fadak

Tafseer Kabeer, Volume 8 page 125 Ayat Fay

Kanz al Ummal, Volume 3 page 129, Kitab al Khilafat ma al Imara

al Milal wa al Nihal, Volume 1 page 18

al Bidayah wa al Nihaya, Volume 5 page 245

Tareekh Tabari, Volume 4 page 1825

Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, Volume 1 page 158

Tareekh Khamees, Volume 2 page 174

Futuh al Buldan, page 35

Wafa al Wafa, page 995

Tabaqat Ibn Sa'd (Book of the Major Classes, d. 852 AD.), Volume 2, page 392 translated by S. Moinul Haq assisted by H.K. Ghazanfar M.A.

Naseem al Riyadh, Sharh Shifa Qadhi Khan Volume 3 page 414


We read in Riyadh:

When the Prophet died, Abu Bakr took Fadak from Fatima. Fatima went to him and said 'Give the land of Fadak to me, as my father the Prophet (s) gave it to me'.

Tafseer Kabeer:

When Rasulullah (s) died, Fatima claimed that Fadak was land bestowed to me by my father the Prophet (s); Abu Bakr said 'I don't know if you are telling the truth".

We read in Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 53, Number 325:

Narrated 'Ayesha: (mother of the believers) After the death of Allah's Apostle Fatima the daughter of Allah's Apostle asked Abu Bakr As-Siddiq to give her, her share of inheritance from what Allah's Apostle had left of the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting) which Allah had given him. Abu Bakr said to her, "Allah's Apostle said, 'Our property will not be inherited, whatever we (i.e. prophets) leave is Sadaqah (to be used for charity)." Fatima, the daughter of Allah's Apostle got angry and stopped speaking to Abu Bakr, and continued assuming that attitude till she died. Fatima remained alive for six months after the death of Allah's Apostle.

Fadak was in fact land that had been given to Sayyida Fatima (as) as a gift.

The greatest proof that Fadak had been given as a gift to Sayyida Fatima (as) by Rasulullah (s), lies in the fact that she already had possession of the land at the time of her father's death. This would not have been the case if the land belonged to Rasulullah (s). Property which is given as a gift is handed over to the transferee at the time when gift is made (even before the death of the testator). Whereas the share in estate of deceased is taken hold of only after the death of the deceased. The fact that Sayyida Fatima (as) was already in possession of the land of Fadak at the time of The Prophets death clearly shows that this land was given to her as a gift in the lifetime of her father and there was no question of its being treated as a share in inheritance.

We read in al Milal wa al Nihal page 13, wherein Allamah Sharastani discusses the disputes that arose following the death of Rasulullah (s):

"The 6th dispute concerned Fadak and the inheritance of Rasulullah (s). Sayyida Fatima deemed it her land, and the claim of Fatima to its ownership"
Al-Milal wa al-Nihal, page 13

This reference proves that Fadak was not the same as the inheritance that Sayyida Fatima (as) was claiming. She (as) already had control of Fadak and now wanted her rights as Heir of her deceased father's Estate.

If Sayyida Fatima (as) had no control of Fadak why did Abu Bakr give written instruction that it be restored to her?

We read in Seerah al Halbeeya Volume 2 page 488:

"Sibt ibn Jauzi narrates that after Fatima made her claim to the ownership of Fadak, Abu Bakr heard her claim and Abu Bakr left a written instruction that it be restored to her, then Umar came to Abu Bakr, and asked 'Who is this document for?' The Khalifa said 'It's with regards to Fadak this is a written document for Fatima in relation to her father's inheritance. Umar said 'then how will you spend for the Muslims, when the Arabs are preparing to fight you, Umar then took the document and ripped it up".
Insan al-Ayun fi Seerah al-Halbeeyah, Vol. 3, page 487 & 488
In 'A short history if Islam' Sunni scholar Dr A. Rahim page 168, Chapter Umar II provides of facts whilst praising Umar ibn Abdul Aziz. He writes:

"Umar II was very fair and generous to the member's of 'Ali's family. He restored to them the property of Fadak which was appropriated by Marwan".

Now lets see what quran have to say about inheritance of Prophets
The books of Ahl'ul Sunnah prove that Prophet Sulayman (as) inherited his father's worldly possessions

As evidence we shall rely on the following authentic Sunni sources wherein it is mentioned that Sulayman (as) inherited Kingdom and knowledge. Notice how they are two seperate things. if we interpret Kingdom as meaning Prophetic knowledge - there would be no need to also use the word knowledge. The Sunni scholars have distinguished the two by mentioning both forms of inheritance. Kingdom is a tangible asset, so refers to all material possessions that make up that kingdom. Knowledge is non tangible and it has been bestowed upon Sulayman as the Prophetic successor to his father.
We read in Tafseer Kashaf:

"Waris refers to Kingdom and Prophethood"
Al-Kashif, Vol. 3, Page 140

Tafseer Khazan:


قوله تعالى { وورث سليمان داود } يعني نبوته وعلمه، وملكه

"Allah’s statement {And Solomon was David's heir} means (he inherited) prophethood, knowledge and kingdom.”

Tafseer Durre Manthur:

"Sulayman inherited both Kingdom and knowledge"
Dur al-Manthur fi Tafseer al-Mathur, Vol. 5, page 193

Allamah Nisaburi records in Tafseer Gharaib al-Quran:


قوله { وورث سليمان داود } عن الحسن أنه المال لأن النبوة عطية مبتدأة

"Allah’s statement {And Solomon was David's heir}, al-Hassan said: ‘It is material possessions, because Prophethood is a gift”

We read in Tafseer al-Bahar al-Muheet by Abi Hayan:


وقال الحسن: ورث المال لأن النبوة عطية مبتدأة

al-Hassan said: ‘Inherited material possessions because Prophethood is a gift’

We have cited authentic Sunni sources that Prophet Dawood (as) inherited the worldly possessions of his father, similarly Sayyida Fatima (as) was also the Waris of her father Rasulullah (s). Denying her this inheritance right was the clear voilation of the quran.
Prophet Sulayman (as) inherited one thousand horses from his father

We read in Surah Sa'd verses 30-31:

To David We gave Solomon (for a son),how excellent in Our service! Ever did he turn (to Us)!
Behold, there were brought before him, at eventide coursers of the highest breeding, and swift of foot;
Al-Qur'an, Surah Sa'd, Ayah 30 & 31, translated by Yusufali.
These horses were inheritance, and as proof we shall cite the following classical Sunni sources:
We read in Tafseer Gharaib al-Quran:


وقيل: ورثها من ابيه وكان أبوه اصابها من العمالقة

“It has been said: ‘He inherited them (horses) from his father and his father had obtained them as a booty from Amaliqs.”

We read in al-Tashil le Uloom al-Tanzil by Abu Abdillah Ibn al-Jezi al-Ghernati (d. 741 H):


فقال الجمهور إن سليمان عليه السلام عرضت عليه خيل كان ورثها عن ابيه

“The majority said that Sulayman (as) brought for him horses he inherit them from his father”

We read in Tafseer al-Nasafi:


وقيل ورثها من أبيه وأصابها أبوه من العمالقة

“It has been said that he inherited them from his father and his father had obtained them from Amaliqa (as war booty)”

We read in Zad al-Masir by Imam of Salafies Abu al-Faraj al-Jawzi (d. 597 H):


والثالث : أنه ورثها من أبيه داود

The third: 'That he inherited them from his father David'

Imam Qurtubi records in his Tafseer:


وقال مقاتل ورث سليمان من أبيه داود ألف فرس

“Maqatil said that Solomon inherited 1000 horses from his father”

Shaykh Kamaluddin Muhammad bin Musa Damiri (742-808 H) records in Hayaat al Haywan:


وجمهور المفسرين على أنها كانت خيلا موروثة

“The majority of scholars say that those horses were inherited”

We read in Tafseer Baydhawi:


وقيل أصابها أبوه من العمالقة فورثها منه

'It has been said that his father obtained them (as war booty) from Amaliq then he (Solomon) inherited them'

We read in Tafseer al-Muharer al-Wajiz by Abu Mhammad ibn Attya al-Maharebi (d. 546):


وجمهور الناس على أنها كانت خيلا موروثة

“The majority of people state that those horses were inherited”

These sources prove that Sulayman inherited the material possessions of his father and this included one thousand horses, this verse proves that the verse 'And Sulayman inherited Dawud' refers to the inheritance of material possessions not knowledge.
We read in Surah Naml 027.016:
And Solomon was David's heir. And he said: O mankind! Lo! we have been taught the language of birds, and have been given (abundance) of all things. This surely is evident favour
Translated by Pickthal
Inspection needs to be given to the words 'wa theena min kul shay'. Its literal meaning is Allah had granted us all things in the world, and all things clearly includes the material possessions of Dawood, and Prophet Sulayman (as) counted these worldly possession as a bounty from Allah (swt). If Prophet Sulayman (as) was exempt from his father's material possessions, then he would not have counted this as a bounty from Allah (swt). Think logically, no person would deem his being denied to his father's material possessions to be a bounty from Allah (swt), rather such exclusion is due to the wrath of Allah (swt) that is meted out on children who murder their father or become an apostate. This is a punishment from Allah (swt) not a bounty.

my last question.please answer if you can.
Of the 124,000 Prophets' that Allah (swt) sent, what evidence is there that they left everything for their followers as Sadaqah (Charity)? If they did, then why did the Prophet (saaws)'s wives not give all their possessions to the Islamic State? After all, Ahl'ul Sunnah consider the wives to be Ahlul'bayt. Sadaqah is haram on the Ahlul'bayt, this being the case why did they hold on to their possessions?

[juptVatoSoito]

Hazrat Abu Bakr usurped the land of Fadak and Fatima Zahra (as) asked him for her Right


When the Prophet died, Abu Bakr took Fadak from Fatima. Fatima went to him and said 'Give the land of Fadak to me, as my father the Prophet (s) gave it to me'.

Lol, More lies from the Shi'ite.

The land did NOT belong to Fatima (ra) in the first place. She wanted to 'inherit' the land from Rasoolullah . Thats a HUGE difference.

Lets see what was the condition of Fadak at the time of Rasoolullah .



Fadak in prophet’s era:

Did Fatima[ra] asked fadak during prophets life time?

The hadith from sunnan abi dawood; Kitab Al-Kharaj, Wal-Fai’ Wal-Imarah; hadith 2966

Narrated Umar ibn AbdulAziz: Al-Mughirah (ibn Shu’bah) said: Umar ibn AbdulAziz gathered the family of Marwan when he was made caliph, and he said: Fadak belonged to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he made contributions from it, showing repeated kindness to the poor of the Banu Hashim from it, and supplying from it the cost of marriage for those who were unmarried. Fatimah asked him to give it to her, but he refused. That is how matters stood during the lifetime of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) till he passed on (i.e. died).


The Rasoolullah himself refused to give Fadak to Hazrat Fatima (ra) during his lifetime. So don't come up with lies like Abu Bakr As-Sideeq(ra) 'snatched' the land... etc etc...


I hope the mods take care of Liars who lie against the Sahabah

[T1ivuQGS]

Lol, More lies from the Shi'ite.

The land did NOT belong to Fatima (ra) in the first place. She wanted to 'inherit' the land from Rasoolullah . Thats a HUGE difference.

Lets see what was the condition of Fadak at the time of Rasoolullah .



Fadak in prophet’s era:

Did Fatima[ra] asked fadak during prophets life time?

The hadith from sunnan abi dawood; Kitab Al-Kharaj, Wal-Fai’ Wal-Imarah; hadith 2966

Narrated Umar ibn AbdulAziz: Al-Mughirah (ibn Shu’bah) said: Umar ibn AbdulAziz gathered the family of Marwan when he was made caliph, and he said: Fadak belonged to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he made contributions from it, showing repeated kindness to the poor of the Banu Hashim from it, and supplying from it the cost of marriage for those who were unmarried. Fatimah asked him to give it to her, but he refused. That is how matters stood during the lifetime of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) till he passed on (i.e. died).


The Rasoolullah himself refused to give Fadak to Hazrat Fatima (ra) during his lifetime. So don't come up with lies like Abu Bakr As-Sideeq(ra) 'snatched' the land... etc etc...


I hope the mods take care of Liars who lie against the Sahabah

brother,
that means god forbid all the sunni sources which i showed above were lying.cant be!
and if you find that word offending, i apologise cause i did not want to offend.just clear the matter.

[Starichok]

Check these link:

It answers & refutes all Shiite lies.
Anger of Fatima (ra)

Fadak

Keep in mind that Abubakr (ra) was the Imam of Fatima (ra).

[Starichok]

brother,
that means god forbid all the sunni sources which i showed above were lying.cant be!
and if you find that word offending, i apologise cause i did not want to offend.just clear the matter.

You just copied it from a shia website full of lies.

[Desflahd]

I dunno why people fall for these threads (myself included). Its just load of nooooonsense and a major waste of precious time. We shouldn't even give it any cop.

[juptVatoSoito]

brother,
that means god forbid all the sunni sources which i showed above were lying.cant be!
and if you find that word offending, i apologise cause i did not want to offend.just clear the matter.

None of the sunni sources indicate anything against Abu Bakr (ra) nor Fatima(ra). Its easy to misquote/mistranslate texts to try to make a big deal out of the issue. Look at the first page everything has been already quoted crystal clear. The Sahaba are like siblings, sometimes they have disagreements and argue with each other. Even Abu Bakr (ra) and Umar (ra) argued with each other but they accept the truth when its established. Thats their noble trait.

I don't think there is anything much to discuss on this topic, I hope the mods close this thread so that this doesn't turn into a 100 page useless discussion. The point has been cleared in the first page itself.

[casefexas]

Sorry if this is a stupid question, im just not very knowledgeable about Islamic history.

So im hearing and reading things about some sort of enmity between Fatima (radhiallahu anha) and Abu Bakr (radhiallahu anhu). Im confused, did Fatima really hate Abu Bakr? If yes, then why? What was the cause of this hatred between them.

Someone please clear up my confusion.

there was a conflict because of Land Of Fadak , Sayeda Fatima (R) Was Angry At Hazrat Abu Bakr (R) till her death its in sahi Bukhari , but Hazrat Abu Bakr (R)

Volume 5, Book 59, Number 546:
Narrated 'Aisha:

Fatima the daughter of the Prophet sent someone to Abu Bakr (when he was a caliph), asking for her inheritance of what Allah's Apostle had left of the property bestowed on him by Allah from the Fai (i.e. booty gained without fighting) in Medina, and Fadak, and what remained of the Khumus of the Khaibar booty. On that, Abu Bakr said, "Allah's Apostle said, "Our property is not inherited. Whatever we leave, is Sadaqa, but the family of (the Prophet) Muhammad can eat of this property.' By Allah, I will not make any change in the state of the Sadaqa of Allah's Apostle and will leave it as it was during the lifetime of Allah's Apostle, and will dispose of it as Allah's Apostle used to do." So Abu Bakr refused to give anything of that to Fatima. So she became angry with Abu Bakr and kept away from him, and did not task to him till she died. She remained alive for six months after the death of the Prophet. When she died, her husband 'Ali, buried her at night without informing Abu Bakr and he said the funeral prayer by himself. When Fatima was alive, the people used to respect 'Ali much, but after her death, 'Ali noticed a change in the people's attitude towards him. So Ali sought reconciliation with Abu Bakr and gave him an oath of allegiance. 'Ali had not given the oath of allegiance during those months (i.e. the period between the Prophet's death and Fatima's death). 'Ali sent someone to Abu Bakr saying, "Come to us, but let nobody come with you," as he disliked that 'Umar should come, 'Umar said (to Abu Bakr), "No, by Allah, you shall not enter upon them alone " Abu Bakr said, "What do you think they will do to me? By Allah, I will go to them' So Abu Bakr entered upon them, and then 'Ali uttered Tashah-hud and said (to Abu Bakr), "We know well your superiority and what Allah has given you, and we are not jealous of the good what Allah has bestowed upon you, but you did not consult us in the question of the rule and we thought that we have got a right in it because of our near relationship to Allah's Apostle ."

Thereupon Abu Bakr's eyes flowed with tears. And when Abu Bakr spoke, he said, "By Him in Whose Hand my soul is to keep good relations with the relatives of Allah's Apostle is dearer to me than to keep good relations with my own relatives. But as for the trouble which arose between me and you about his property, I will do my best to spend it according to what is good, and will not leave any rule or regulation which I saw Allah's Apostle following, in disposing of it, but I will follow." On that 'Ali said to Abu Bakr, "I promise to give you the oath of allegiance in this after noon." So when Abu Bakr had offered the Zuhr prayer, he ascended the pulpit and uttered the Tashah-hud and then mentioned the story of 'Ali and his failure to give the oath of allegiance, and excused him, accepting what excuses he had offered; Then 'Ali (got up) and praying (to Allah) for forgiveness, he uttered Tashah-hud, praised Abu Bakr's right, and said, that he had not done what he had done because of jealousy of Abu Bakr or as a protest of that Allah had favored him with. 'Ali added, "But we used to consider that we too had some right in this affair (of rulership) and that he (i.e. Abu Bakr) did not consult us in this matter, and therefore caused us to feel sorry." On that all the Muslims became happy and said, "You have done the right thing." The Muslims then became friendly with 'Ali as he returned to what the people had done (i.e. giving the oath of allegiance to Abu Bakr)


Hazrat Abu Bakr (R) later met with Hazrat Ali (R) and maintained good relations with Ahle Bait , according to sunni sources , according to shia sources there is different story , now only Allah knows whats reality , whenever i try to ask someone about this i usally get rude repies or am always accused of being shia