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Old 09-15-2011, 07:31 PM   #21
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Sigh....
What do you mean?
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:36 PM   #22
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What do you mean?

Calling a country that has the Hamain Sharifain (...) a kufr country will not gel well with most of the people.
Wassalam
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Old 09-15-2011, 07:38 PM   #23
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there goes ur iman............
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:04 PM   #24
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Calling a country that has the Hamain Sharifain (...) a kufr country will not gel well with most of the people.
Wassalam
It has no Kalifah, means it is not muslim.

If you think otherwise, then I want you to study Islam further. W/salam
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:07 PM   #25
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It has no Kalifah, means it is not muslim.

If you think otherwise, then I want you to study Islam further. W/salam
It is muslim country because muslims live there, but it is not islamic country ... this is what you mean?

w alikum assalam
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Old 09-15-2011, 08:30 PM   #26
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It is muslim country because muslims live there, but it is not islamic country ... this is what you mean?

w alikum assalam
Most of people are muslims, not the country.
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:26 PM   #27
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It has no Kalifah, means it is not muslim.

If you think otherwise, then I want you to study Islam further. W/salam

It would be better for you to teach some of us here with slightly more detailed posts and dalail instead of cryptic, short sentences.
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Old 09-16-2011, 01:54 PM   #28
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http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...estinians.html
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Old 09-16-2011, 03:28 PM   #29
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Increadible, isnt it genocide in a way?

allah akbar
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Old 09-16-2011, 10:25 PM   #30
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It has no Kalifah, means it is not muslim.

My elders do not call Saudia an infidel country.
If they are asked then, in all probability, they will say that Saudia is indeed Dar-ul-Islam.
I have not asked but then you do not ask the obvious things.
I personally am not a fan of the current ideology prevalent in that region but even then I'll not call it Dar-ul-Kufr.
A Muslim is a person who accepts Islam.
Since overwhelming majority in Saudia will claim to be Muslim therefore we have to accept that it is a Muslim country.
Caliphate is Social Duty (Fardh-e-Kifaya). If a group does not do that then they all shall be sinners. This still does not take them out of the fold of Islam.
If you think otherwise, then I want you to study Islam further. W/salam You are my brother in Islam so it is a pleasure and honour to receive your suggestion. Can you suggest a specific document to study?
Wassalam
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Old 09-17-2011, 01:41 PM   #31
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My elders do not call Saudia an infidel country.
If they are asked then, in all probability, they will say that Saudia is indeed Dar-ul-Islam.
I have not asked but then you do not ask the obvious things.
I personally am not a fan of the current ideology prevalent in that region but even then I'll not call it Dar-ul-Kufr.
A Muslim is a person who accepts Islam.
Since overwhelming majority in Saudia will claim to be Muslim therefore we have to accept that it is a Muslim country.
Caliphate is Social Duty (Fardh-e-Kifaya). If a group does not do that then they all shall be sinners. This still does not take them out of the fold of Islam.

You are my brother in Islam so it is a pleasure and honour to receive your suggestion. Can you suggest a specific document to study?
Wassalam

Our brother in Islam does not appear to be very well read himself.
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Old 09-19-2011, 01:38 PM   #32
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Increadible, isnt it genocide in a way?

allah akbar

Yes, it is.
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Old 09-19-2011, 02:15 PM   #33
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If you love democrazy, then read this book. http://searchtruth.com/searchHadith....earch_word=all
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:10 PM   #34
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If you love democrazy, then read this book. http://searchtruth.com/searchHadith....earch_word=all
Salam alikum brother,

can you please try to say more, so that your short message is understood correctly?

w salam
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:17 PM   #35
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Salam alikum brother,

can you please try to say more, so that your short message is understood correctly?

w salam
Your message is too short, I don't understand you. Sorry.

W/salam.
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:35 PM   #36
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Your message is too short, I don't understand you. Sorry.

W/salam.
Salam alikum,

I mean - you write - if you love democracy - read this book . I opened the attachment and there are hadith, which I read through carefully. I havent seen clearly connection between democtracy and those hadith and would like to understand. Please explain.

w alikum assalam
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Old 09-19-2011, 03:56 PM   #37
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Salam alikum,

I mean - you write - if you love democracy - read this book . I opened the attachment and there are hadith, which I read through carefully. I havent seen clearly connection between democtracy and those hadith and would like to understand. Please explain.

w alikum assalam
You read 1 hadith and judge on this? Read them all, and when you are done, read all hadith in Sahih Muslim about kalifah.
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:03 PM   #38
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Your message is too short, I don't understand you. Sorry.

W/salam.
hmmmm......
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Old 09-19-2011, 04:04 PM   #39
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You read 1 hadith and judge on this? Read them all, and when you are done, read all hadith in Sahih Muslim about kalifah.
Salam alikum,

now I have read all the hadith posted by you -
I will inshallah understand if you explain what you expect from those narrations...
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Old 09-19-2011, 10:17 PM   #40
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Salam alikum,

now I have read all the hadith posted by you -
I will inshallah understand if you explain what you expect from those narrations...

First bro Caliph has to understand himself before he can explain to others like us.
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