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02-28-2012, 08:33 AM | #22 |
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According to the Shia Foundation SA website they have a Mosque in Phoenix, Durban. In total they count 16 centers in the country and the majority are in the rural, indigenous communities. |
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02-28-2012, 11:00 AM | #24 |
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according to a hadis in baqurhi mohammed s.w.a said ther will be 99 sects in my ummah only 1 will go paradise.
and another place he told my whole umma will go to paradise but those who regect me sabhas asked who wil be those people. prophet said who do do not obey me{i.e hadis} now all claim to obey but only those obey and follow gidence who allah gides INVESTIGATE ON ALL SECTS AND THE BOOKS OF THEIR ELDERS... INVESTIGATE TO FIND THE TRUTH ME SAYING WILL NOT HELP U |
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02-28-2012, 11:09 AM | #25 |
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according to a hadis in baqurhi mohammed s.w.a said ther will be 99 sects in my ummah only 1 will go paradise. |
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02-28-2012, 01:32 PM | #27 |
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02-28-2012, 01:33 PM | #28 |
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02-28-2012, 02:40 PM | #29 |
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02-28-2012, 03:14 PM | #30 |
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02-28-2012, 11:31 PM | #31 |
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Extreme? It's this forum that features threads about NIQABI women asking if it's permissible to put something in their mouths to sound less attractive to men. That's extremism. Are you a Muslim? Allah says in the Qur'an: "O wives of the Prophet! You are not like any other women. If you keep your duty (to Allâh), then be not soft in speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease (of hypocrisy, or evil desire for adultery) should be moved with desire, but speak in an honourable manner." Sura Ahzab, v.32. Lest you start arguing about the command being for the Wives of the Prophet , let me for-stall you by inviting you to read the principles of tafsir. Ibn Kathir commented on this verse thus: "As-Suddi and others said; this means, do not be gentle in speech when addressing men." Further, Ibn Zayd said: "Decent and honorable talk that is known to be good.'' This means that she should address non-Mahram men in a manner in which there is no softness, i.e., a woman should not address a non-Mahram man in the same way that she addresses her husband. So the extremism that you are so worried about is actually wara' and taqwa, something that your Shi'i brethren know nothing about. Next time on Shiachat, check out whether there is a discussion on group muta' and its jawaz and the Zaynabiyyah. More details available from bro Tripoly Sunni. Al salamu 'ala manittaba il hudaa. |
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02-28-2012, 11:34 PM | #32 |
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02-29-2012, 03:32 PM | #33 |
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'Extreme? It's this forum that features threads about NIQABI women asking if it's permissible to put something in their mouths to sound less attractive to men. That's extremism.
Shiachat is nowhere even CLOSE to this. -Jason' ASA, How do you bring this forum into this matter? You take one example (your opinion of 'extreme' and out of context) and compare it with known deviant sects (Shiia is btw far more deviated than Salafiyyun.) Would you not consider it quite a jump/leap of faith from 'hater' of Shiia to 'lover' of Shiia? Understandable if someone came from OUTSIDE Islaam and joined aforementioned sects but to have such a change of heart INSIDE Islaam is a bit far fetching...(don't you think?) |
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03-01-2012, 10:54 AM | #34 |
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How do you bring this forum into this matter? You take one example (your opinion of 'extreme' and out of context) and compare it with known deviant sects (Shiia is btw far more deviated than Salafiyyun.) Would you not consider it quite a jump/leap of faith from 'hater' of Shiia to 'lover' of Shiia? Understandable if someone came from OUTSIDE Islaam and joined aforementioned sects but to have such a change of heart INSIDE Islaam is a bit far fetching...(don't you think?) As far as my opinion of extremism, I think you'll agree most of the world would find putting something in your mouth while talking to be both unnatural, degrading to women, and therefore extreme. Extreme is whatever most of the world doesn't practice and in this case, this is an example of extremism. -Jason |
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03-01-2012, 10:57 AM | #35 |
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03-02-2012, 12:16 PM | #37 |
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I agree it's a leap of faith from Shia hater to Shia lover. It's impossible to deny they are opposites. |
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