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Old 02-18-2012, 08:20 AM   #1
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Default Shia Killing And Salafi Fundamentalist
From time to time, I read about condemnations of Islam coming from non-Islamic groups, especially concerning the all-too-common violence perpetrated in the name of religion. Indeed there is plenty to condemn.

Salafi fundamentalist despite verbally professing a desire for peace and justice in the world, are actually pro-war, pro-homicide and pro-violence in practice (or they may be silent on the subject, which is, according to moral theology, the same as being pro-violence).

I use the term fundamentalist in the sense that the religious person, who ascribes to a fundamentalist point of view, believes, among other dogmatic belief, that their scriptures are inerrant and thus they can find passages in their holy books that justify homicidal violence against their perceived or fingered enemies, while simultaneously ignoring the numerous contradictory passages that forbid violence and homicide and instead prescribe love, hospitality, mercy, forgiveness and reconciliation.

Behind the scenes, of course, there are hidden elites — amoral, politically and financially motivated operatives who are embedded in their religious organizations — who, through the strength of their political power, can easily manipulate the followers into clamoring for sectarian war.

Though history has long since been forgotten or ignored, the true followers of the Prophet Mohammad (pbuh), rejected violence, tried to return good for evil, fed the hungry, did acts of mercy and unconditional love and tried to make friends out of their enemies (by caring for them, feeding them, praying for them and certainly refusing to kill them or pay for somebody else to kill them).

Soon after the death of Prophet, Islam became a religion of justified violence, contrary to the teachings and modeling of Prophet, and it remains that way until this very hour.
The followers of that very Salafi Muslims should be courageously “going to the streets” and saying “NO” wherever and whenever fear and hatred raise their ugly heads and try to provoke violence — no matter if it is coming from anywhere – or from within the local Sheikh.
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Old 02-18-2012, 08:46 AM   #2
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???? why would you put your name on here then the place you living and why is their a smile face on the title this doesent make any scense you just come here and say that islam is violent there are some violent salifis but not all of them and there are violent shias too so if you dont belive me look up the shia malitias in iraq and see the horrers they caused
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Old 02-18-2012, 10:07 AM   #3
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If any muslim kills innocent human being, its mean he killed entire human being. Islam is a religion of PEACE and LOVE and teaches us, how to respect others. yes off-course, there are ignorant in Shias too.
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Old 02-18-2012, 12:05 PM   #4
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Look at how you dirty shias are slaughtering Muslims in Syria and yet you have the nerve of playing the victim. Shame on you. You dirty shia.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:46 AM   #5
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There was no need for that! There are khawarij and Mutazilte of various shades. Don't let your emotion blind you about the fact the zionist are exploiting both. Be on your guard!
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The situation in Syria has nothing to do with Zionism. It's Alwai shias backed by Iranian shias and Hezbollah shias massacring Sunni Muslims. The Zionists are not involved in everything. Our Muslims Brothers and Sisters are being killed by dirty shias in Syria. There is no conspiracy theory here.
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Old 02-19-2012, 04:47 AM   #6
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???? why would you put your name on here then the place you living and why is their a smile face on the title this doesent make any scense you just come here and say that islam is violent there are some violent salifis but not all of them and there are violent shias too so if you dont belive me look up the shia malitias in iraq and see the horrers they caused
You are right brother, Shia militias are the most violent people in the world.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:58 AM   #7
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If any muslim kills innocent human being, its mean he killed entire human being. Islam is a religion of PEACE and LOVE and teaches us, how to respect others. yes off-course, there are ignorant in Shias too.
Are you talking about your scholars?
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:46 AM   #8
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Are you talking about your scholars?
Shias and ignorance go hand in hand. If they won't ignorant they would not be shia.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:35 AM   #9
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Saying of Prophet of Islam Mohammad (PBUH) onTruth

He is not of me who, when he speaketh, speaketh falsely; who, when he promiseth, breaketh his promises; and who, when trust is reposed in him, faileth in his trust.

No man is true in the truest sense of the word but he who is true in work, in deed, and in thought.

Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.

It is not worthy of a speaker of truth to curse people.

Appropriate to yourselves the truth. Avoid lying.

Say what is true, although it may be bitter and displeasing to people.
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Old 02-22-2012, 05:42 AM   #10
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Saying of Prophet of Islam Mohammad (PBUH) onTruth

He is not of me who, when he speaketh, speaketh falsely; who, when he promiseth, breaketh his promises; and who, when trust is reposed in him, faileth in his trust.

No man is true in the truest sense of the word but he who is true in work, in deed, and in thought.

Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.

It is not worthy of a speaker of truth to curse people.

Appropriate to yourselves the truth. Avoid lying.

Say what is true, although it may be bitter and displeasing to people.
al-Baraa bin 'Azib (ra) said: The Prophet SAWS said: al-Ansar(the supporters), No one loves them except a believer and no one hates them except a hypocrite, He who loves them then Allah shall love him and He who hates them then Allah shall hate him.

source: Sahih al-Bukhari.

Oops! there goes your entire sect of liars and haters.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:11 AM   #11
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"And hold fast all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you)and be not divided among yourselves as the Muslims are doing now, with the sects turning into religions, and Muslims are accusing each other of unbelief and even killing one another. The Prophet (p.)has told us that all of the Muslim is haram to other Muslims,whether his blood, money or honour.
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Old 02-22-2012, 08:49 AM   #12
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"And hold fast all together, by the rope which Allah (stretches out for you)and be not divided among yourselves as the Muslims are doing now, with the sects turning into religions, and Muslims are accusing each other of unbelief and even killing one another. The Prophet (p.)has told us that all of the Muslim is haram to other Muslims,whether his blood, money or honour.
That's right, Muslims should unite and every Muslim is proctected against another Muslim. And yet shi'a supports alawite which is considered kufr even by Khomenei, against the sunnis in Syria. Probably you should honestly ask the question to yourself?

Stop doing taqiyyah, that's not the sunnah of the Prophet . You can let other members know what you really think.
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Old 02-22-2012, 09:45 AM   #13
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That's right, Muslims should unite and every Muslim is proctected against another Muslim. And yet shi'a supports alawite which is considered kufr even by Khomenei, against the sunnis in Syria. Probably you should honestly ask the question to yourself?

Stop doing taqiyyah, that's not the sunnah of the Prophet . You can let other members know what you really think.
I do not know, what is TAQIYYAH ? but two things which i strongly believes ,1/ write the truth and 2/ there are so called 'KINGS', in our Muslims world and they are not good for Umma, they are acting as a puppets to the western interest. we need to unite ourself for better world. "ALLAH BLESS ALL MUSLIMS"
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:13 PM   #14
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I do not know, what is TAQIYYAH ? but two things which i strongly believes ,1/ write the truth and 2/ there are so called 'KINGS', in our Muslims world and they are not good for Umma, they are acting as a puppets to the western interest. we need to unite ourself for better world. "ALLAH BLESS ALL MUSLIMS"
I say you're an expert in Taqqiyah.
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Old 02-26-2012, 01:13 AM   #15
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I say you're an expert in Taqqiyah.
"One who imagines himself to be all knowing will surely suffer on account of his ignorance".-----Imam Ali (as)
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:47 AM   #16
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"One who imagines himself to be all knowing will surely suffer on account of his ignorance".-----Imam Ali (as)
Let me help you out mate, here's a link to these sayings so that you don't need to post em anymore:

Link: http://www.yazehra.com/sayings1.html
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Old 02-26-2012, 03:03 AM   #17
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"One who imagines himself to be all knowing will surely suffer on account of his ignorance".-----Imam Ali (as)
"لم أر أحدا من أصحاب الأهواء،أكذب في الدعوى، ولا أشهد بالزور من الرافضة"

"I did not see anyone from the people of desires, who lie in their call and give false testimonies, more than the Rafidhah". ------ Imam al-Shafi'i (rah) [204 A.H]

sources:
-Ibn Batta in "al-Ibanah al-Kubra" 2/545.
-al-Lalikaee in "Sharh al-Sunnah" 8/1457.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:01 PM   #18
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"لم أر أحدا من أصحاب الأهواء،أكذب في الدعوى، ولا أشهد بالزور من الرافضة"

"I did not see anyone from the people of desires, who lie in their call and give false testimonies, more than the Rafidhah". ------ Imam al-Shafi'i (rah) [204 A.H]

sources:
-Ibn Batta in "al-Ibanah al-Kubra" 2/545.
-al-Lalikaee in "Sharh al-Sunnah" 8/1457.
----------First you need to come out of what you called 'TAQIYYA', show your real identity then we will talk, by the way "you (ALL) have long way to understand what is International Politics against Muslim World, you just feel happy to write non sense and let ZIONEST LOBBIES crush us. Please, work for unity of ISLAM.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:05 PM   #19
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I say you're an expert in Taqqiyah.
----Brother Taqiyya is not for you or for other brothers, and also i do not have any fear what so ever from you guys, except ALLAH, so why should i go for TAQIYYA, lets be straight to you, you and others are hiding true identities of yours in this web site, just for what-----------------and that is called TAQIYYA, and i am who i am not hiding anything, you no what i am AMERICAN MUSLIM and we talk straight. thank you and all of you need to come out of your VEIL and show to the world that you are just covering ISLAM as an umberalla. true muslims, who teach love, Peace and Unity and what all you are doing in this site------------I pray for all of you.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:06 PM   #20
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Let me help you out mate, here's a link to these sayings so that you don't need to post em anymore:

Link: http://www.yazehra.com/sayings1.html
---- Good so you know, where the food for the thoughts are
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