[Axxflcaj]

http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...t-deoband.html

[didrexx]

http://shiningblades.blogspot.com/20...t-deoband.html

He had attended the Jaipur Literary Festival earlier also but it was not so open - people came to know about these things post facto only. Now India being the only country where Muslims sacrificed their lives in their fight against his infamous book it is strange that this fact has not registered on the government's psyche. It is dumbing down of the powers that operate the wheels of this country. If the government can not understand the feelings, ideas, opinions and attitudes of a population that is larger than any European continental country then they are seriously deficient. During the author's last visit the Marxist newspaper The Hindu published a prominent interview with him in their Sunday supplement. It is this kind of ideology that is operating in our country. The strange thing is that these are the people who self-righteously represent the downtrodden. May be it is time for Muslims to get on their own feet - a long overdue contingency.

PS: Another small post.

[Sydaycymn]

salam,

India is not a shariah ruled country. So muslims shouldnt extend to the fallacy of expecting India to rule by shariah rules. What muslims can do is to protest within the existing rules or if required work towards bringing in laws that prevent such insulting form of "free specch". India does not follow the western laws, so the french anti-religious "free speech" does not go down in India even though there are liberal atheist minded individuals working towards that end.

[didrexx]

salam,

India is not a shariah ruled country. So muslims shouldnt extend to the fallacy of expecting India to rule by shariah rules. What muslims can do is to protest within the existing rules or if required work towards bringing in laws that prevent such insulting form of "free specch". India does not follow the western laws, so the french anti-religious "free speech" does not go down in India even though there are liberal atheist minded individuals working towards that end.

India is a democracy and hence obliged to protect the interests of its minorities.

[Sydaycymn]

India is a democracy and hence obliged to protect the interests of its minorities.

That's a poor line of argument. Muslims aren't the only "interests". Every person has interests.

Again, India does not follow the absolute free speech a.k.a right to offend/insult law of the west. In India, the social interests, culture, religion,etc are all taken into account. So that would be a better line of argument.

It also comes within the broader framework of Article 9 of UN decleration:
Article 29.

* (1) Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.
* (2) In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.
* (3) These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

[anfuckinggs]

Isn't his book banned by Indian Government >?

[KernJetenue]

rushdie is saying that he has got PIO Card along with his red british passport so he doesnt require a visa to enter india but am sure he's PIO can be revoked at anytime by the government.

[Sydaycymn]

Hope you watched "The Rushdie Debate" today on the liberal slanted CNN-IBN.

[didrexx]

That's a poor line of argument. Muslims aren't the only "interests". Every person has interests.

In reality above is a poor line of argument.
But argument is something that I'd not like to continue.
Also I do not watch TV.
And according to an Urdu newspaper there have been demonstrations and meetings against his visit in Rampur, Dhampur, Muradabad and Kanth.

[Axxflcaj]

Isn't his book banned by Indian Government >?

It is banned.

[Axxflcaj]

That's a poor line of argument. Muslims aren't the only "interests". Every person has interests.

Again, India does not follow the absolute free speech a.k.a right to offend/insult law of the west. In India, the social interests, culture, religion,etc are all taken into account. So that would be a better line of argument.

It also comes within the broader framework of Article 9 of UN decleration:

It is not a question of arguments or their validity or merit.
Muslims are full citizens of this nation and have the right to express their dislike to their enemies and also have the right to petition the people in power to stop dogs like Rushdie from entering the nation.

[RicyReetred]

I hate him,

w alikum assalam

[Sydaycymn]

But calling him a "dog" is not going to win the case and prove why Rushdie should not visit India. India is not governed by personal dislikes of people. We have laws and that which falls within the ambit of the law can be obtained. If you spent some amount of energy in being a lawyer and fighting on behalf of Muslims, it would be better than the "Oh i just hate him" argument. If you have spent energy in writing books that attacks the whole basis or philosophy of Rushdie and similar ultra liberal mindset, it would have done more damage to Rushdie and his fans than the mere "Oh i hate him! Someone please listen to my view" argument.

Anyway, here's the debate video :

Will the Indian Muslim leadership ever get over 'Rushdie-phobia'?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/219658/...diephobia.html

[RicyReetred]

But calling him a "dog" is not going to win the case and prove why Rushdie should not visit India. India is not governed by personal dislikes of people. We have laws and that which falls within the ambit of the law can be obtained. If you spent some amount of energy in being a lawyer and fighting on behalf of Muslims, it would be better than the "Oh i just hate him" argument. If you have spent energy in writing books that attacks the whole basis or philosophy of Rushdie and similar ultra liberal mindset, it would have done more damage to Rushdie and his fans than the mere "Oh i hate him! Someone please listen to my view" argument.

Anyway, here's the debate video :

Will the Indian Muslim leadership ever get over 'Rushdie-phobia'?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/219658/...diephobia.html

I doubt it would hit him and his fans, it would just create mischief. But everyone is free, to be smart against people like Rushdie is good thing. I just purely hate him , that it is.
w alikum assalam

[didrexx]

If you have spent energy in writing books that attacks the whole basis or philosophy of Rushdie and similar ultra liberal mindset, it would have done more damage to Rushdie and his fans than the mere "Oh i hate him! Someone please listen to my view" argument.

Here is a book. Unfortunately neither you nor Rushdie fans read such things.

[Axxflcaj]

But calling him a "dog" is not going to win the case and prove why Rushdie should not visit India. India is not governed by personal dislikes of people. We have laws and that which falls within the ambit of the law can be obtained. If you spent some amount of energy in being a lawyer and fighting on behalf of Muslims, it would be better than the "Oh i just hate him" argument. If you have spent energy in writing books that attacks the whole basis or philosophy of Rushdie and similar ultra liberal mindset, it would have done more damage to Rushdie and his fans than the mere "Oh i hate him! Someone please listen to my view" argument.

Anyway, here's the debate video :

Will the Indian Muslim leadership ever get over 'Rushdie-phobia'?
http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/219658/...diephobia.html

Brother, I am calling him a dog because I hate him, not because I want to win an argument with someone. I would have thought that was obvious. And if you think that writing books against Rushdie and his people is going to damage him, then you must be really naive. That will only give them an excuse to write more nonsense against the faith and the Prophet
In a battle we have the right to choose our weapons and you want us to choose the weapons that the enemy loves.

[Axxflcaj]

I doubt it would hit him and his fans, it would just create mischief. But everyone is free, to be smart against people like Rushdie is good thing. I just purely hate him , that it is.
w alikum assalam

Right. Those who think that writing books against people such as him is the thing to do may please come forward with a list of the books that they have authored.

[Axxflcaj]

India is not governed by personal dislikes of people. We have laws and that which falls within the ambit of the law can be obtained. If you spent some amount of energy in being a lawyer and fighting on behalf of Muslims, it would be better than the "Oh i just hate him" argument.

Rushdie's book is banned in India. It is the personal dislike of the minority community that did it. So much for your laws and what falls within their ambit.
"being a lawyer and fighting on behalf of Muslims?" We are spending hundreds of lakhs of rupees in fighting for Muslim youth and the Babri Masjid and various other issues in India. Would you like to help? What are you doing besides arguing against the Muslims? I can introduce you to my Shaykh who will let you know just how much money is needed to pay a Supreme Court Lawyer in India for fighting a case. Put your money where your mouth is.

[didrexx]

Google

[GalasaKoll]

he is a disgrace for the world.

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