[Tuqofiw]

im confused...im seeing mixed opinions about this..some of the hanafi ulemah have said that hanafis can pray asr in the earlier time as this was also an opinion held by some of the students of Imam Abu Hanifah RA...there are other ulemah who say we should pray in the later time

it is more convenient for me to pray in the earlier time on some days of the week...is it okay to mix the two opinions? which may mean praying zuhr late sometimes as it is extended till the later asr time

im kinda afraid desire will come into this...as if someone is late for prayer they may have the mind set well today im following hanafi asr time so i can still pray my zuhr...and then when its convenient for them they'll say ill pray early today as i need to do such and such so its more convenient if i follow the earlier timing today

i don't get it

[RogHammon]

I heard from ustad during Nur-ul-idah classes that both are accepted opinions among ahnaaf.
Allahu Aálam.

Yup !!! as brother Abdullah is saying, you should consult ulema if you can jump from one opinion to another.

[JAMES PIETERSE]

Assalamu alaykum

i remeber reading a fatwa of faraz rabbani that both opinions are valid. but you have to stick to 1 because it effects zhur

[JesexhiSeeces]

You can follow either the earlier or the later one, Insha'Allah, but you have to stick to the same all the time, year round. You can't change it on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis based on convenience.

[Tuqofiw]

[layedgebiamma]

You can follow either the earlier or the later one, Insha'Allah, but you have to stick to the same all the time, year round. You can't change it on a daily, weekly, or monthly basis based on convenience.

This is correct. Mufti Husain wrote a post on this last year, I think.

I'll link to it if I find it.

[Dwencejed]

Bismillah
General rule is to pray when it is two shadow lenght. However if you are in masjed which follows shafi time, then it is better to follow the Asr Jammah.
If you perform your salat individually then stick to the general rule because you end up praying Dhuhr late which is in Shafi Asr time.

If I perform dhurh early and there is Jammah of Asr, then I join in. If I pray Dhuhr late, I wait till 2 shadow lenght (normally).
Allahualam

[roundman]

Bismillah
General rule is to pray when it is two shadow lenght. However if you are in masjed which follows shafi time, then it is better to follow the Asr Jammah.
If you perform your salat individually then stick to the general rule because you end up praying Dhuhr late which is in Shafi Asr time.

If I perform dhurh early and there is Jammah of Asr, then I join in. If I pray Dhuhr late, I wait till 2 shadow lenght (normally).
Allahualam

What would one do if one was not in a masjid, but simply among friends who were going to pray Asr (let's say at school or someone's house)? Assuming they would not mind you praying later, should you give up the jama'ah to pray later?

And above we said you cannot change what opinion you are following based on convenience. Would this apply to one who always prays Zuhr early? I pray Zuhr early (and I know it is sunnah to pray it late in the Summer) year-round pretty much, with rare exceptions. I generally pray Asr late, but if there is any reason, such as someone else wanting to pray with me or if I will be travelling or doing something which may prevent easily praying Asr later, I pray Asr earlier without resisting too much. Is this incorrect?

[rionetrozasa]

I pray asr according to the Sahibayn when I am in the mosque since all Turkish Hanafis and other mosques have chosen for the Shafi'i asr time. When I am alone I pray according to Abu Hanifa.

Incidently I used to pray sometimes Zuhr late (during Shafi'i asr time) and pray Asr again according to Abu Hanifa.

[JesexhiSeeces]

One thing I forgot to say in my post, and it seems to be coming up, that I personally always give priority to praying in jamaat. Whether that may mean being at a masjid who does Asr at a 'different' time, or friends/family about to make jamaat at a certain time. I would pray in jamaat rather than myself any time and I wouldn't purposely make it so I end up praying by myself (such as foregoing a jamaat because they're praying too early and praying by myself later).

The rewards of praying in jamaat are immense and we should jump at any opportunity to do so. This is my understanding and *not* a fatwa.

[ValdisSeroff]

I pray asr according to the Sahibayn when I am in the mosque since all Turkish Hanafis and other mosques have chosen for the Shafi'i asr time. When I am alone I pray according to Abu Hanifa.

Incidently I used to pray sometimes Zuhr late (during Shafi'i asr time) and pray Asr again according to Abu Hanifa.

The Islamic Centre in Liverpool prays according to the Shafi'i Asr time, too. I rarely go for jama'ah (I hope to start going to the mosque more often this year, insha'Allah) but I tend to vary it. If I know I'm going to be out at, say, 2:10pm when it is the start of Shafi'i Asr, I will pray Dhuhr "early". I mostly follow Hanafi timings unless I go to the mosque, but to be honest, it depends on my schedule. If I'm in class or something at, say, 2:10pm, I will pray Asr based on Hanafi rulings instead. But if I attend jama'ah at the mosque, I will pray Dhuhr earlier and follow Shafi'i times, so I can pray with the congregation.

Both timings are correct according to scholars, so I guess it doesn't really matter which one you choose. On my prayer sheet I have the standard rulings and then write down the Hanafi time in brackets underneath it, so I don't get confused.

[Dwencejed]

Bismillah
Few years ago Mufti taqi was with some other arab scholar. The arab scholar asked him to lead salat which he did but when the organiser told him to do asar together. He declined.
Another incident Mufti Taqi was at regents park masjed with many of the hanafi scholars. When asar adhan was called some hanafi scholar intially thought of abstaining from Jammah. Mufti Taqi told them to perform the Asar according to Masjed time.
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Here what I do.
If I have performed my Dhur early, I joined in the Jammah but if late, I abstain from joining the Jammah if not in masjed but in small musalla. If one feel by abstaing some ignorant individual is going to make issue, then perform as Nawafil. Sahaba didnt join in when traveling and they had no no problem with it. So none should have problem with these things. I would urge our shafi brothers not to tap on others shoulder when one sees performing salat individually standing on one side more so if you see them performing their salat in hanafi menthod
I am in Riyadh and have seen adhan being called out at Hanafi time for Asar and occaionaly in UAE as well.

Allahualam

The Islamic Centre in Liverpool prays according to the Shafi'i Asr time, too. I rarely go for jama'ah (I hope to start going to the mosque more often this year, insha'Allah) but I tend to vary it. If I know I'm going to be out at, say, 2:10pm when it is the start of Shafi'i Asr, I will pray Dhuhr "early". I mostly follow Hanafi timings unless I go to the mosque, but to be honest, it depends on my schedule. If I'm in class or something at, say, 2:10pm, I will pray Asr based on Hanafi rulings instead. But if I attend jama'ah at the mosque, I will pray Dhuhr earlier and follow Shafi'i times, so I can pray with the congregation.

Both timings are correct according to scholars, so I guess it doesn't really matter which one you choose. On my prayer sheet I have the standard rulings and then write down the Hanafi time in brackets underneath it, so I don't get confused.