[Avaboormavoro]

Brother,

Please read the story quoted in the first post in the following thread:

http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show......&highlight=

In addition, please keep asking Allah Almighty to help you. You can ask Him out loud or say it in your heart... doesn't matter. Just keep asking and, Insha'Allah, He will take care of you.

[pIp83Uns]

Darknite has anybody called you to Islam by now or not? I do from the core of my heart.

[rxnixoncom]

Enter the deen of Islam brother. Trust me, EVERYTHING will be alright. Till when will you run away from your Lord? The life of this world is nothing compared to the life in the hereafter. Go and take the shahdah. Spend some time. I guarantee you that you will find peace. Please do watch this short video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtHR4p5N0-4

[QzVyZbTg]

You claim that god is the most merciful and forgiving is this really true? Why are there somany crimes in the world and injustice? Why do people go through somuch hardship and never get anywhere? I am not a muslim and nor am I here to slate your religion. Islam is the biggest religion in the world from what I understand so I thought i'd check out your views. Personally I gave up in belief along time ago. Actually I don't even know what I believe I just think I don't want to.

brother islam give us guidance that saves us from lossess, misery and suffering, it teaches a way of life that one can have attain inner peace, wisdom and guidence u to a life where u will not have the problems u suffered.

[theonsushv]

I am grateful that you signed up just to say something. I didn't even know people joke about this kind of thing. I havnt made this decision up lightly it has taken me over a year to do. In that time I tried and pushed. It was the one of the hardest years I have come across. I have no benefit in trolling about something like this it's pointless.The West? I went for help I searched and begged and got nothing they just left me to die. West is bull****, there health agencies, their support agencies all bogus. They are not people. This is why I lost hope on man aswell, they are worse than animals. I've seen wild pigeons who are more faithful and caring.

I'm sorry for having triggered anger in your mind with my post. You didn't address the rest of my post, though- you seem to be seriously depressed and need help with that. The disturbed sleep cycle is a symptom and will only make you feel worse mentally and physically.

I'm extremely sorry to hear what you went through, but I hope your life improves in the near future.

Don't make any drastic decisions, you need time to heal, sometimes it takes a very long time. You're still young and I promise you that there will come a time when you are better.

[pIp83Uns]

I'm sorry for having triggered anger in your mind with my post.

Now you see brother what an unguarded statement can lead to? A person with even a little bit of experience
with trolls would have told you that in the OP there was practically no sign of trolling. To hurt a person who is already hurt is a bigger sin than hurting a healthy person. I do not know whether brother Darknite will return or not but if he does not then many of us will feel as if we have collectively failed as Muslims.
You didn't address the rest of my post, though- you seem to be seriously depressed and need help with that. The disturbed sleep cycle is a symptom and will only make you feel worse mentally and physically. He obviously needs restoration of faith in humanity and a few kind words from our side will cost us nothing but will be , or would have been, of immense value for him. I hope he comes back and realizes that several people were trying to help him.
I'm extremely sorry to hear what you went through, but I hope your life improves in the near future. Ameen. May Allah(SWT) guide us all closer to the right path.
Don't make any drastic decisions, you need time to heal, sometimes it takes a very long time. You're still young and I promise you that there will come a time when you are better. In reality, akhi, we can not promise anything for we have nothing. We can only supplicate and that we should.
Wassalam

[PPActionnGuys]

You claim that god is the most merciful and forgiving is this really true? Why are there somany crimes in the world and injustice? Why do people go through somuch hardship and never get anywhere? I am not a muslim and nor am I here to slate your religion. Islam is the biggest religion in the world from what I understand so I thought i'd check out your views. Personally I gave up in belief along time ago. Actually I don't even know what I believe I just think I don't want to.

This is a very good question and many people dont understand nor can they explain it. Why is there evil in the world? Does evil and good coexist? If Allah swt is all powerful and all just, why does He allow evil to exist and persist in the world? Does He not have the power to overcome the evil? An Arif Billah, one who has gnosis of Allah swt, can truly answer these questions.

[PPActionnGuys]

Shall we just simply say that hardship is a part of life and life is about the ups and downs and stop it there? Can we be at rest simply here? Yes.

But some people have a natural inquisitive nature and so they want to ask why. But remember, its not so easy to jump from solving algebra equations to solving integral calcucus problems; the answer to the question is there but it requires work and study.

[PPActionnGuys]

In order to answer this question we first have to start at the base, who is the Creator and what is the creation? What is the difference between these two? We have to start there and slowly untangle this issue.

[theonsushv]

Now you see brother what an unguarded statement can lead to? A person with even a little bit of experience
with trolls would have told you that in the OP there was practically no sign of trolling. To hurt a person who is already hurt is a bigger sin than hurting a healthy person. I do not know whether brother Darknite will return or not but if he does not then many of us will feel as if we have collectively failed as Muslims.

He obviously needs restoration of faith in humanity and a few kind words from our side will cost us nothing but will be , or would have been, of immense value for him. I hope he comes back and realizes that several people were trying to help him.

Ameen. May Allah(SWT) guide us all closer to the right path.

In reality, akhi, we can not promise anything for we have nothing. We can only supplicate and that we should.
Wassalam

With all due respect, that first part of my post was just a disclaimer- it wasn't meant to hurt anyone and the whole of the rest of my post was attempting to get him to reconsider his position at the time of his original post. I registered only for his post, I wanted him to know that he is not in the right state of mind and that things are extremely distorted when in such a state. I hope if he has read any of the replies after that he takes a step back from his current line of thinking.

[PPActionnGuys]

Darknite I wish I had your email address and we can discuss this issue over email.

[pIp83Uns]

Darknite I wish I had your email address and we can discuss this issue over email.

Good idea. Darknite if you agree with Shaikh Fusus' request then request the moderators to give him your email address.

[PPActionnGuys]

Darknite are you still visiting this thread?

[pIp83Uns]

Darknite are you still visiting this thread?

Henceforth I intend to enjoy it when some one does not return to his thread. Time for us to return to remembrance of our Rab.

[PPActionnGuys]

Henceforth I intend to enjoy it when some one does not return to his thread. Time for us to return to remembrance of our Rab.

O well. Might as well turn this into a mushaira...please start.

[pIp83Uns]

O well. Might as well turn this into a mushaira...please start.

Muhabbat ke liye kuchh khaas dil makhsoos hote hein
Ye woh naghma hai jo har saaz pe gaya nahein jata

For love some special hearts are chosen
This is one melody that doesn't suit every one

I have quoted it some where else too at SF but this is powerful enough to be quoted again and again. The interesting thing is that the poet was Qamar Jalalwi who used to have a shop for fixing punctures on the road side in old city of Aligarh. The blog Indian Muslims has a post about many such couplets where the poet is rather unknown while the couplets are known to nearly every one.

Now a peeve. Some people say that the actual word for love should be pronounced as mahabbat and not as muhabbat. I am determined to oppose these people. Muhabbat has been muhabbat for centuries and no one is allowed to change it.

Now your turn.

[pKgGpUlF]

I am still here. I didnt come back after my last reply and I don't know why. I started drinking alcohol and about a year and a half ago I stopped feeling that is was a bad thing and that no matter what religion you are from surely god cannot allow it. Personally I have a Sikh and Hindu background. I stopped for a year and a half but I started again last night. Not because I wanted a good time or anything just to get a bit of peace and forget my sorrows.

I am not condoning it but it help even just for a few hours....I finally slept last night! it was only about 3 hours but I slept! It has been a very long time time since I have slept. I don't know why i'm here or what i'm looking for but I do know one thing...after sleeping in on the roads for a year and being lonely I feel as if I can speak to someone. You can't imagine how it feels to just speak to someone and get a reply back. I kept myself occupied by making friends with some birds but they don't really reply back.

[patrycjakolekk]

I am still here. I didnt come back after my last reply and I don't know why. I started drinking alcohol and about a year and a half ago I stopped feeling that is was a bad thing and that no matter what religion you are from surely god cannot allow it. Personally I have a Sikh and Hindu background. I stopped for a year and a half but I started again last night. Not because I wanted a good time or anything just to get a bit of peace and forget my sorrows.

I am not condoning it but it help even just for a few hours....I finally slept last night! it was only about 3 hours but I slept! It has been a very long time time since I have slept. I don't know why i'm here or what i'm looking for but I do know one thing...after sleeping in on the roads for a year and being lonely I feel as if I can speak to someone. You can't imagine how it feels to just speak to someone and get a reply back. I kept myself occupied by making friends with some birds but they don't really reply back.

Hope things get better for you bro... keep asking any further questions you want answering

[nuabuncarnigo]

Bismillah Ir-Rehman Ir-Raheem

Dear Brother Darknite:

Brother, why don't you go to a mosque near you? Please go to a mosque, but before you go, simply watch a video online on salat (prayer). It doesn't matter that you don't know any Arabic...or that you don't know the words...simply mimic the movements of others around you in the mosque and observe the prayer with everyone else...no need to tell anyone whether you are Muslim or not. And when you place your forehead on the ground, simply ask God to guide you to what would please Him and make your pain and your troubles go away. Then, leave the mosque...and come back to pray other prayers the same way (until/unless you feel comfortable enough to talk to other people in the mosque). I guarantee that Allah will hear your prayers. Not only that, I guarantee that you will sleep like a baby throughout the night (without the aid of any depressants like alcohol).

Brother, it doesn't matter what your background (i.e. religious, cultural, social, physical, geographical, etc.) is...as sorrow is a universal phenomenon. And its treatment is not in alcohol. Brother, if you drink alcohol, for how long can you numb the pain...as reality doesn't change, does it...? Instead, all alcohol does is set askew your perception of reality for a very little while only to depress you more when you come back to the reality and realize that nothing has changed. Brother, please realize I am only saying this out of concern and not criticism, because I know you to be an intelligent and soulful individual who is capable of much better decision-making. Remember, Brother, that better decision-making has to start with sincere intentions towards maintaining your health and realizing that you are deserving of more in your life than alcohol as a friend.

Brother, I know why you are here...even if you don't know. However, I am hoping that you are willing to go on a journey to discover the reasons for yourself. Brother, you came here to ask a question...but the answer is already in your question.

Go to the mosque...as soon as you get the chance. Okay, Brother? And keep us updated.

(By the way...thank you, Brother, for coming back and giving us an update; it is appreciated.)

If I have said anything that is good and true, it is from Allah, and anything other than that is my own mistake.

In the name of God, the infinitely Compassionate and Merciful.
Praise be to God, Lord of all the worlds.
The Compassionate, the Merciful. Ruler on the Day of Reckoning.
You alone do we worship, and You alone do we ask for help.
Guide us on the straight path,
the path of those who have received your grace;
not the path of those who have brought down wrath, nor of those who wander astray.
(Quran 1:1-7) May Allah keep you under His protection and give you the understanding you will need to change your life and the will to accept what you cannot change.

[Avaboormavoro]

Peace,

I agree with the sister's idea about going to the mosque. I think that is an amazing idea.

Just walk in. Muslims are very 'receptive' people and it's not like walking into a Church or Synagogue or something where you will feel completely out of place. Just walk in to the building some time during the day, you will see some type of a rack or place on the floor outside the actual prayer area with a whole bunch of shoes. Take your shoes off in the same place and go inside.

Somewhere right by the entrance or in public view you will see the 5 daily prayer times plus Jummah (Friday prayer) timings, make a note of all the prayer times if you like, and see what is the next closest prayer time coming up. Sit down on the carpeted floor anywhere, sit all the way in the back against the wall, just relax and observe. You will see people coming, praying and stuff, and you will get an idea of what the movements are when the actual prayer happens. When it's prayer time, you will hear a brother calling something out in Arabic, and at the same time you will see all the brothers starting to make straight rows standing next to each other, getting ready to pray.

After that, the Imam (the bearded brother all the way in the front by himself leading the prayer) will say ALLAHU AKBAR and prayer will commence. Just follow everyone's movements. You don't have to say a word. Just have sincerity in your heart like sister Anybody said and ask Allah (God) to guide you, help you, and straighten out your life and everything else.

If for the first time you don't want to pray yourself, that's completely fine, just go and sit somewhere in the mosque and observe everyone else pray. Start praying later on, whenever you feel more comfortable, even if that's a week or a month later, just keep going to observe (no one will say anything to you, trust me, Muslims don't roll like that). If for some reason you don't feel comfortable after giving it a chance (thought I doubt that will happen, once the Adhaan [the Arabic call to prayer] enters your ears and heart, and you hear the Quran being recited during the prayer, you can pretty much call it a day and Insha'Allah (God-willing) say Hello (or SALAM) to a new life).

This is if you want to stay discreet. If you are willing to talk, go in the mosque and ask any brother to show you who is the IMAM, or just seek him out yourself (he will be the one leading the prayer in teh front). Either before or after the prayer, just go up to him, say you're a non-muslim but have some questions about Islam and life in general (trust me, he will, Insha'Allah, jump on the chance to possibly help someone learn more about Islam and "why we are here"). Then, spill away to him as much or as little as you like.

I am only saying the Imam in this case since they will be very knowledgeable in these matters and will be, Insha'Allah, able to give you proper advice. You can really talk to any brother in the mosque, just seek out someone who seems mature and approachable (don't be weirded out by the beards, the bigger the better).

I hope you don't take this advice as mumbo-jumbo and actually seriously, wholeheartedly consider doing it.

I only wrote that long story because I figure as a non-muslim it can be intimidating to enter a mosque just like that, that's why I broke it down to what I think would help you out, feel free to ask anything I may have left out.

IN REALITY all you need to do, brother, is set foot inside a mosque, and Insha'Allah, Allah will take care of it from there.

Our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told us that Allah says if you take one step towards Him, He takes ten steps towards you, if you go to Him walking, He comes to you running.

Give it a shot. Alhamdulillah (all praise be to Allah), it's true. I can tell you first hand, and so can billions of others worldwide.

Remember, from what you're saying, you don't have much to lose, and only everything to gain.

Thanks for listening brother.

May Allah grant you peace and fill your life with blessings from His treasures. Ameen.