[Thydaysuh]

I would like to know if the meditation is allowed in Islam like, kundalni meditation,etc. and other forms of meditation.

[sbrthrds]

As-salamu 'Alaykum,

Islam, and specifically the Sufi orders within Islam, has several forms of meditation that are usually called fikr, and precede or accompany dhikr (invocation). They are prescribed by a Shaykh for those who are initiated. Sometimes there are breathing or visual exercises involved.

While various other traditional systems, such as some of those found in Hinduism, focus on the base of the spine or other centers on the body, Islamic meditation focuses on the heart, and then moves on to other centers.

I would not recommend kundalini for most people, as it can be very dangerous...unless you are a Hindu and have a qualified master to teach and observe your growth. If you are a Muslim, the best way to learn about meditation is from a qualified shaykh in a traditional Sufi order.

You can also find a few things written on the subject in H. Corbin's "Man of Light in Iranian Sufism". I hope this helps.

wa salam,
Abu 'Abdallah

[sadgpokx]

Are there any good kundalinii teachers in england?

[cxddfrxc]

Brother, we hv 2 derive everything from the sunnah of our prophet. During His days, such things were non-existent. we should rather try to bcum practical muslims. If some people may b saints adopted such traditions, those do not constitute sufficient enough authority for implementation by us.

[sbrthrds]

"Are there any good kundalinii teachers in england?"

I am sorry, I would not be able to recommend a contemporary teacher from the Hindu tradition. I'm sure they exist, but most people in the West who teach kundalini teach it outside of the complete religious and moral framework of Hinduism which such a practice demands.

It is kind of like the many people in the West who practice dhikr or other aspects of Sufism outside of the Shariah.

Of course it would be unwise to discredit kundalini or fikr or dhikr as such. There are probably some authentic representatives of kundalini in the West...but this is a practice for Hindus who are dedicated to the One through that tradition. Other forms of yoga are far less dangerous, and can be practiced by anyone as an exercise, like Tai Chi or the Martial Arts.

wa salam,
Abu 'Abdallah

[Thydaysuh]

what about Shaktipat Meditation which is the transmission of life force energy , do you think that it will not be allowed in ISLAM ,it is for the betterment of Humans , there are many other saveral techniques which are for the good of people.

Shaktipat is for the people who have lost the connection to their spirit and have lost the balance of life and ultimately the energy , it makes them stay connected with their spirit and change the connection and make them connected with their spirit so that the energy may be transferred to them which is natural and present in all the Universe.Energy Transmission is the main souce .

kindly also let me know a little bit about your knowledge and position in Islam.

[Cxcvvfbgtr]

the prophet and his companions never did anything of this.

Allah tells the believers to contemplate over the creation to increase their awe and fear and understanding of Allah's majesty and draw close to Him through doing obligatory deeds and avoiding haram deeds and then recommended deeds, etc...

the best remembrance or dhikr is to work to perfect one's salah.

Allah says,

Those who remember Allah standing and sitting and lying on their sides and contemplate the (wonders of) creation in the heavens and the earth,: Our Lord! Thou hast not created this in vain! Glory be to Thee; save us then from the chastisement of the fire

[Thydaysuh]

can u give me any reference or Hadiths or any other source of Information where these meditations were not recommended by the Prophet pbuh.

[Thydaysuh]

believe me meditation is a great tool to handle many diseases and emotional problems

[qilmuz6v]

i think before we pass judgement on the various forms of meditation, we should consider whether they actually entail acts which may symbolise shirk in anyway, or any non-islamic, alter-religious symbolism. if that is the case then best to avoid. if not, and there is no activity or acts which symbolise or are representative of idolatrous ideology then i can't see the inherent harm in performing such acts of meditation. just be weary of its origins and purposes.

having said that, i agree what the brothers have said: dhikr of Allah is the best meditation, reading the qur'an, reciting a wird of supplications in the morning and evening (this has amazing effects if done sincerely and regularly), and attending gatherings of dhikr all have a tremendous positive impact upon the heart.

or you could find your local hadra.

[Thydaysuh]

yeah in shaktipat the master connect with the student through the third eye and transmit the life energy force through the third eye.The student recieves the bliss through the third eye and and the neurons of the mind open up.the spirits of the student and the master are joined through this meditation which is the basis of transferrence and reception of life force energy.

[Cxcvvfbgtr]

yeah in shaktipat the master connect with the student through the third eye and transmit the life energy force through the third eye.The student recieves the bliss through the third eye and and the neurons of the mind open up.the spirits of the student and the master are joined through this meditation which is the basis of transferrence and reception of life force energy.

what are you talking about?

show me one prophet of Allah who said this...you will not be able.

rather, the prophets told their people "establish salah"

Allah sends guidance to us for a reason.

what are you talking about?

[Thydaysuh]

yeah I know that Prophet pbuh never taught anything like this, but I think anything which is good for the human beings will not disallowed in Islam,there is no harm in it but only good, Human power is increased by it.

Brother there are many things which the religion havnt told us like playing cricket or physibal fitness so it doesnt mean that we are not allowed to do it similarly meditation is good for human mind and body thats why i think it will not be disallowed by Allah.

[qilmuz6v]

but I think anything which is good for the human beings will not disallowed in Islam,there is no harm in it but only good, Human power is increased by it.

1. there is no room for 'i think' in islam, when it comes a legal ruling. if you don't have the qualifications, remain silent.

2. who decides what is good for you, Allah and His Messenger (the Qur'an and the Sunna) or you? people will tell you all sorts of things are good for you e.g. drinking a glass of wine a night has shown to be protective upon the heart; having a 'girlfriend' is good and normal etc etc...

Brother there are many things which the religion havnt told us like playing cricket or physibal fitness so it doesnt mean that we are not allowed to do it similarly meditation is good for human mind and body thats why i think it will not be disallowed by Allah. my advice to you would be to consult a trustworty scholar. ask at sunnipath.com; your previous statements did appear somewhat odd to me; certainly some unislamic concepts - but i remain silent.

[Thydaysuh]

First of all dear brother DRINKING and having GIRLFRIEND every muslim knows that it is not Good , and I hope there is no doubt about it because I am sure that everyone knows that Drinking damages health and mind and consciouness , after drinking ones ability and having a GF destroys ones legitimate relationships.one can find hundreds of articles on the internet which shows that drinking is bad for health.

moreover i went to the website u mentioned but i didnt find any link to ask questions there , can u do me a favour of asking for me and then post the answer on the forum with relative sources.

[qilmuz6v]

Human power is increased by it.

what do you mean by this?

and you can ask your question at the website by clicking here

be specific and make sure you mention what is involved.

my point about mentioning alcohol was that it doesn't matter what you 'think' is good. our thoughts may be far from correct, and not based on the qur'an and sunna. and that which is doubtful, you should leave until you receive a proper answer.

[Thydaysuh]

dear brother tell me if a muslim gets sick then he goes to a doctor , the doctor diagnosis the diseases through particular symptoms and gives him the medicine , the patient takes the medicines and get well, then tell me dear brother is it good or bad , do you think that Islam tells us abour the Alopathic medicines etc.

Islam doesnt tells us to go to a doctor when we get sick but we have to go there to get well and its good we know that.then wat u say in this case...???

Meditation is a great tool to handle many psychosomatic illnesses , diseases and health conditions.

[qilmuz6v]

Islam doesnt tells us to go to a doctor when we get sick but we have to go there to get well and its good we know that.then wat u say in this case...???

we are recommended to seek help and cures to illnesses. Islam doesn't tell us to sit back and do nothing when illness befalls us. we are indeed permitted to seek help and assistance and in certain situations this is obligatory; and although western medicine if different from prophetic medicine (tibb), there is no harm whatsoever in seeking it unless of course its ingredients or methods are haram. this is well known.

i can see that there may be potential benefits to meditation; all I said was that you must make sure that the intricacies involved in the particular meditation you quote isn't tantamount to shirk. so you have to look at the ideas behind it, its origins etc.

[Thydaysuh]

ya rite but the energy i am talking about is Shaktipat,Prana , Kundalini etc. not Qi well i am not sure if its a different one or same , watever

[Thydaysuh]

so u wanna say that if your experience was bad so will be everyones', i dont think so ,how wud u describe the power one feels in his body .