[gniewkoit]

Salaam bhais, i created a little windows app that automates dawat e islami ka online kaat system.. a fren requested that i make it coz it was difficult
for him to type all info for evry member of his family especially since bapaa jaan has said its better to do a kaat once a month.. so i made 1, pls
check it out if u like..

https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx...B2jMyfL8VQohUI

also share if u think its useful..

[BGThomasis]

what is kaat? What is bapaa jaan ? what is dawat e islami ?

[22CreessGah]

I don't know what "kaat" is but "bapa jaan" is Ilyas Qadri, leader of Dawat-e-Islami. It's a Barelvi movement that tried to copy the Tableeghi Jamaat.

[gniewkoit]

what is kaat? What is bapaa jaan ? what is dawat e islami ?

oh i am sorry, this post is intended for Islami bro's who are acquainted with Dawat e Islami, my mistake, i should have specified..

well, u have a good day

[gniewkoit]

I don't know what "kaat" is but "bapa jaan" is Ilyas Qadri, leader of Dawat-e-Islami. It's a Barelvi movement that tried to copy the Tableeghi Jamaat.

well umm bro, kaat in the literal sense means "cutting" or something close to it.. i am not well versed with either urdu nor hindi soo i cannot say exactly, but the closest i can say would be "cutting of a problem"
islami bros n sisters with problems like diseases..etc.. go to the site give details like name, problem, email..etc n the bros at dawat e islami asks dua in favor of 'em. they also do 'wazeefa' like reciting surah "Al Fatiha" or "ya Salaamoo" .. etc.. bros might differ in regard to the validity of this practice, keeping in mind the different belief systems.

again views may differ in regard to ur statement "tried to copy" but lets just leave it at that coz we all know discussions on subjects like those only goes into chaos. heh

but all i can say from experience with DI is that it is teaching ppl the holy Quran and Sunnah, but again this view would differ from person to person according to their own belief systems, yes? factors like 'sect' greatly influences these decisions.

anyway have a good time, n hope there'll be no destructive posts here, as i honestly have no intention of causing trouble.

thanks

[22CreessGah]

well umm bro, kaat in the literal sense means "cutting" or something close to it.. i am not well versed with either urdu nor hindi soo i cannot say exactly, but the closest i can say would be "cutting of a problem"
islami bros n sisters with problems like diseases..etc.. go to the site give details like name, problem, email..etc n the bros at dawat e islami asks dua in favor of 'em. they also do 'wazeefa' like reciting surah "Al Fatiha" or "ya Salaamoo" .. etc.. bros might differ in regard to the validity of this practice, keeping in mind the different belief systems.

again views may differ in regard to ur statement "tried to copy" but lets just leave it at that coz we all know discussions on subjects like those only goes into chaos. heh

but all i can say from experience with DI is that it is teaching ppl the holy Quran and Sunnah, but again this view would differ from person to person according to their own belief systems, yes? factors like 'sect' greatly influences these decisions.

anyway have a good time, n hope there'll be no destructive posts here, as i honestly have no intention of causing trouble.

thanks

I do know Urdu and yes, "kaat" is a verb meaning "to cut", but I thought it was some new Dawat-e-Islami terminology and apparently, it is, because I have never heard it being used in this context.

The problems with Dawat-e-Islami are already mentioned on this forum and they are not something as simple as you're making them out to be. I also have no intention of creating an argument but if you wish to read up on the issues about Dawat-e-Islami, you should read previous threads on this issue. May Allah guide us all.

[AbraxiaAsus]

May be you dropped in the wrong forum. its .net for that forum instead of .com.

[Frodogzzz]

Assalaam'aaleykum!

[BGThomasis]

im sure bapaa jaan would feel nice about this app.

[gniewkoit]

May be you dropped in the wrong forum. its .net for that forum instead of .com.

yeah!! this is real embarrassing.. 'kinda figured that out with the first comment :s hehh honest mistake though.. so i'm guessing u guyz won't want me here no more yeh?

[AbraxiaAsus]

so i'm guessing u guyz won't want me here no more yeh?

nope... you are more than welcome here... discuss.. share your thoughts and experiences.
you are still our brother.

btw, how a shafi'i affiliated with dawat-e-islami (just curious) ?

[Frodogzzz]

yeah!! this is real embarrassing.. 'kinda figured that out with the first comment :s hehh honest mistake though.. so i'm guessing u guyz won't want me here no more yeh?

Assalaam'aaleykum!

No, brother! Nobody is asking you to leave the forum. You can choose to stay on in here for your own good. During your stay here, you can also get to educate us on DI and its methodology and tell us more about Bapa G.

[gniewkoit]

nope... you are more than welcome here... discuss.. share your thoughts and experiences.
you are still our brother.

btw, how a shafi'i affiliated with dawat-e-islami (just curious) ?

well i think i'll want to leave though, coz now this thread has a tag "barelvi fitna" in it.. im sure most of u are good at heart but there's still others yeh.
'tried deleting this thread, but couldn't find an option that'l do it.. :s
umm all 4 mazhab is welcome in DI, its not for just Hanafis, there's no difference in 'aqaaid' in this regard..

[gniewkoit]

Assalaam'aaleykum!

No, brother! Nobody is asking you to leave the forum. You can choose to stay on in here for your own good. During your stay here, you can also get to educate us on DI and its methodology and tell us more about Bapa G.

there's really no secrets to DI, try googling, u'll find everything u need.

[AbraxiaAsus]

coz now this thread has a tag "barelvi fitna" in it..

where is it ? i dont see anything.

'tried deleting this thread, but couldn't find an option that'l do it.. :s Ya, there no option of that sort.

umm all 4 mazhab is welcome in DI, its not for just Hanafis, there's no difference in 'aqaaid' in this regard.. hmm.. interesting... coz i thought only the indian subcontinent people who are usually hanafis affiliated to it .

khair, its your wish. You are always welcome here..

[gniewkoit]

where is it ? i dont see anything.


Ya, there no option of that sort.


hmm.. interesting... coz i thought only the indian subcontinent people who are usually hanafis affiliated to it .

khair, its your wish. You are always welcome here..

u can view the tags by searching for "dawat e islami" this post is the first result, theres a little icon right next to the green circle 'subscribed' icon, hover ur mouse over it n u'll see..

this'll be my last post on this site, have a good time

[gniewkoit]

where is it ? i dont see anything.


Ya, there no option of that sort.


hmm.. interesting... coz i thought only the indian subcontinent people who are usually hanafis affiliated to it .

khair, its your wish. You are always welcome here..

oh i didn't ans ur last question, i'm not Indian nor Pakistani, DI is working in more than 170 countries at the moment.. 'barelvi' is the equivalent to 'sufism' in india/pakistan, maybe some minor disagreements on some issues but over all its the same.

[22CreessGah]

islamibhai, is there a reason you haven't said salaam or replied to anyone's salaam after your first post?

And I don't know who added the "barelvi fitna" tag but that was uncalled for since this thread isn't promoting Dawat-e-Islami.

Also, Barelvism is not equivalent to Sufism in India. There are many Sufis in India who are not Barelvis. The "evil Deobandis" are also Sufis. Only the Wahhabi Ahle Hadees aren't Sufi.

[gniewkoit]

islamibhai, is there a reason you haven't said salaam or replied to anyone's salaam after your first post?

And I don't know who added the "barelvi fitna" tag but that was uncalled for since this thread isn't promoting Dawat-e-Islami.

Also, Barelvism is not equivalent to Sufism in India. There are many Sufis in India who are not Barelvis. The "evil Deobandis" are also Sufis. Only the Wahhabi Ahle Hadees aren't Sufi.

ok, sorry again my fault.. i'll correct my self.. not all sufi.. but barelvis are not the only 1's with the same beliefs as the barelvi's umm i really don't kno how to explain this but u guyz seem to kno more abt this stuff..
the only thing i can say is that their are ppl who don't know Imam Ahmed Raza (rehmatAllah alaih) n have the same beliefs.
i kno coz i didn't know him n was never in India/pakistan before now, n i have the same beliefs. anyway the thing abt replying to salaam,
its a fatwa or something like it given by DI mufti's not to reply to salaam in english written form, u could say 'AsslaamuAlaikum' but not the reply.. soo mostly i just say it from my mouth instead of writing.. i think i have the paper which sez this, im uploading the paper n giving a link here, but there is no1 here with me who can read it at the moment, so the paper im uploading might be different.. tell me if it is the wrong paper, n i'll find the real 1 n post..
www.kgnfosys.com/Salam likhnay ka tareeqa.jpg

[BGThomasis]

my dear islamibhai the link doesn't work