[JesikaFlpk]

As-salaamu Alaikum,

I am 20 years old and in college in the United States. I grew up in the Nation of Islam. I never learned to pray properly and have never been to Jummah prayer. Nor have I learned alot of the basic Arabic words that every muslim should know because this has not been adressed at the mosque that I went to. A week ago, I went to I masjid for the first time in my life and I began reading and studying the Qur'an on my own. I found resources to guide me as I am learning to pray and to be a practicing muslim. I never took Shahadah and Insha-Allah, I will take it very soon, within the next couple of weeks.
I don't know how to feel about the fact that I thought I was learning all I needed to know until I stepped outside and saw that no other muslim in the world could understand why I did not know how to make salat when I told them I was muslim. I am going to start going to a new masjid but I worry about my family and the people that I grew up with in the Nation of Islam misunderstanding me and thinking that I am misguided. With Allah's guidance I know I am making the right decission in learning how to pray and starting to wear the hijab. I got some funny looks from the sisters of the Nation of Islam mosque the first time I wore my hijab wrapped in the traditional style instead of in a bun at the back of my neck(which exposed curls of my hair). I would like any words of advice on what I should do because I feel that I have missed out on something very precious in my growing up. Also, I am not familiar with joining a masjid where the brothers and sisters pray at certain times, remove their shoes, and anything else that I may not know about, so I would like some pointers on that, as well as what I should do or say when I am ready to take my shahadah. Insha-Allah someone out there will help me to figure this out by the grace of Allah.
-Thank you to anyone offering your words
-As-salaamu alaikum, Sister Hannah

[iOqedeyH]

Wa alaikumus salam warahmatullah,

It is indeed a mercy from Allah that He has guided you into Islam and showed you the wrong teachings and beliefs of "nation of islam".

The one advice would be to take your shahadah soon, ie atleast say to yourself.

Dont feel pressurised about going to masjid as I am sure you would be welcomed there insha Allah. Also, woman can offer their 5 times prayer at home and it is more rewarding for them to do at home.

Make lots of dua to Allah to keep you on straight path and dont feel pressurised by your family members. Remember to be good to them as your good character can be a means of guidance for them to embrace islam.

Also, please do remember to make duas for us.

[JesikaFlpk]

Allah is indeed most Merciful towards me. Thank you for your advice brother. Jazakullah. I feel much more clear, Insha-Allah I will set a good example for my family as I move forward.
I will remember to make duas for us.

As-salaamu alaikum wa rahmatullaah wa barakat

[ElcinBoris]

It truly is a blessing that Allah is guiding you to the true Islam, the way of the last Prophet Muhammad , and the true speech of Allah in the Qur'an.
Just try to be patient with your family, be kind as usual, and treat them even better then you did before. Call them to the truth, and show them the miracle of the Qur'an, and Islam.
I first heard about Islam through music(wu tang clan) who promote 5%'erism, when i started to read about it, i remember reading one article talking about "Sunnis", that's when i picked up a few traditional Islamic books from the library and then decided by the will and guidance of Allah that it was the truth and accepted Islam a few weeks later.
If you have any questions about converting or want to talk to a Muslim directly and ask any specific questions, please go to www.islamreligion.com, we have a chat 1-on-1 for chat advisors and new/non muslims.

[cialesxtr]

Asslam-o-Alaikum,

What is this "Nation of Islam" ? is it a new Fitnah or what ??

[WomanBreast40356]

It truly is a blessing that Allah is guiding you to the true Islam, the way of the last Prophet Muhammad , and the true speech of Allah in the Qur'an.
Just try to be patient with your family, be kind as usual, and treat them even better then you did before. Call them to the truth, and show them the miracle of the Qur'an, and Islam.
I first heard about Islam through music(wu tang clan) who promote 5%'erism, when i started to read about it, i remember reading one article talking about "Sunnis", that's when i picked up a few traditional Islamic books from the library and then decided by the will and guidance of Allah that it was the truth and accepted Islam a few weeks later.
If you have any questions about converting or want to talk to a Muslim directly and ask any specific questions, please go to www.islamreligion.com, we have a chat 1-on-1 for chat advisors and new/non muslims.

Mashallah!
May I ask, what led you to remain "Sunni" ie Orthodox Muslim, many new converts are attracted by the sophistry of misguided sects especially Imami shiism and leave orthodox Islam when theyh hear some infantile argument against Bukhari's Sahih, as If Islam is based on Bukhari and not the Quran!

[DenisLevvin]

Unfortunately there is a lot of ignorance in the Muslim Community about the Nation of Islam. Even amongst the followers of the Nation you can found lots of ignorance.

I see that a lot of da'wa work can be done to educate our brothers.

As brother Napoleon (Mutah) also stated. The Nation of Islam are not even Muslims, and still they are somehow widely regarded as such. The members do not even know the sunni version of Islam and even claim that they follow the religion of 1 billion people.

It is even more sad to note that people like Muhammad Ali never really condemned Elijah Muhammad and his false prophecies. This liar claimed to be a Messenger and came with his own false rulings.

I hope you enter quick into Islam sister and acknowledge everything what is essential for a Muslim.

[DenisLevvin]

Asslam-o-Alaikum,

What is this "Nation of Islam" ? is it a new Fitnah or what ??

Wa alaykumussalaam,

You can find some information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam

I believe the Khatme Nabuwwat can do a lot of work there in America. It is amazing that we have given attention to the liar Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, but remained silent of this heretic Elijah, while many of our black brothers are claiming to follow "Islam".

[ElcinBoris]

Mashallah!
May I ask, what led you to remain "Sunni" ie Orthodox Muslim, many new converts are attracted by the sophistry of misguided sects especially Imami shiism and leave orthodox Islam when theyh hear some infantile argument against Bukhari's Sahih, as If Islam is based on Bukhari and not the Quran!

Well throughout my life I have always thought about God and how to follow him and please him, my family was Catholic but not practicing. I converted because I truly believed in God and in the Qur'an being from him. The first time I heard the recitation of the Qur'an was of surah fatihah and it was the night before going to the Masjid for my convertion. I heard it without understanding even a word, but I know the moment i heard it that it was from God and no human being could have made it, it touched my heart and from that day forward I have only been trying to get closer to him through following the truth.
I ended up at a Arab Masjid in NYC and slowly but surely started to learn about hadiths, until i was familiar with Islam, God, and Prophethood.
In the begining I did research different sects, like Shiaism ect, but the overwhelming proof from the Qur'an and Authentic Sunnah can lead no where else except to tradition Islam.
Islam itself makes total sense and doesn't need me to think for it, or for me to change it, and I didn't become a Muslim so that I could do exactly what my forefathers did with their religion.
Regardless of what anyone argues against Islam, Islam always has a better answer.

[BILBONDER]

Salam Alykum,

Isn't "NOI" that group which is built upon Racism or something? They are Deviant because Islam has nothing to do with Race, A Black Man has no Superiority over a white Man nor does a White Man Have Superiority over a Black man ...That's what Islam teaches.

[errolurberozy]

I had a dialogue with a HassanShabbaz who came to "Answering Christianity" room in PalTalk a few days ago, he said there beliefs were:

(1) W.D Muhammad was Allah in a body. (naoozubillah)
(2) That he was in conflict with his beliefs.
(3) Has come to realise that NOI is not true Islam.

and Masha Allah we have a sister from the NOI also detracting from their propaganda, may Allah guide them all. Ameen.

[deandrecooke]

i met many people in america who used to be NOI and later became muslims. they said that when the joined NOI they thought they were actually becoming muslims and did not know any better.

so its a lacking on our part that they were not shown the true islam.

[Texdolley]

^ ^ That is true.

[Z2sc8gEz]

Asslam-o-Alaikum,

What is this "Nation of Islam" ? is it a new Fitnah or what ??

Bismillah

No. The NOI is not a "new" fitnah. You can place it concepts along with the wahhabih of Saudia Arabia. For a history and understanding of the NOI you should go to www.newafricaradio.com. While you're there...spend some time and get to know Imam Warith ud deen Mohammed.

[Z2sc8gEz]

With Allah's Name, Merciful Benefactor, Merciful Redeemer

As Salaam Alaikum

You have posted all wrong information. You have a lot to learn about the Nation of Islam. I am one to help you to know. The Qur'an, al Kareem, states and instructs us to refrain from declaring who among us is Muslim or not Muslim. That statement of your's seems to be the first clue that you are more than likely clueless about other matters. You must be careful about speaking from sensations rather than speaking from knowledge. Allah (izzu wa jalal) knows all about you.

[Z2sc8gEz]

Bismillah

No. The "NOI" isn't that group whichis built upon Racismor something. I think you're referring to the Klu Klux Klan.

The NOI is built upon the ideas of Freedom, Justice, And Equality (of the black slave of America) mind. Hope this helps you know more about the history of Al Islam (as our way is called in Al Qur'an Majeed) in the Americas.

But, I guess it's our "fault" for not teaching you. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) knows Best.

[Z2sc8gEz]

Bismillah

GOSH. I feel like such a child with your comment...'a lacking on OUR part that THEY...

Who are you talking about? Matter of fact...that's what the yahoodi say about the GENTILE. Little children.

Enshaa Allah, you'll come to grips with your nafs (Watakabaraatah)...(Super Ego)

[Unrersvar]

wa alaikum assalam to the OP,

Welcome to the forum and (hopefully) to islam. I maintain a list of resources that are helpful to converts that you may be interested in. If you happen to be in the twin cities, minnesota, I can provide you with some in person help as well. And if not, perhaps we could find someone in your city to help.


Are there any masjids in your area that were associated with WD Muhammad? I think that might be the perfect way to transition into mainstream islam. I'm a european american convert (aka white girl from the sticks), and I've never felt more at home than I have at a former NOI temple. Many of our adult members began their lives in the nation, and transitioned to sunni islam with WD Muhammad in the 70s. They're been there, done that, so to say, and could inshaAllah provide you some comfort and guidance in your spiritual search.

I also think that many mainstream american muslims would welcome you with open arms if you tell them your story. If there's one thing muslims love, it's a good convert story, and my sister, that is just what you have To find your way to the truth and light of Islam is your opening into any muslim community.

[Tic Tac Took]

Bismillah

No. The NOI is not a "new" fitnah. You can place it concepts along with the wahhabih of Saudia Arabia. For a history and understanding of the NOI you should go to www.newafricaradio.com. While you're there...spend some time and get to know Imam Warith ud deen Mohammed.

Although Wahhabis are indeed deviants (likening Allah to his creation and declaring haram that which is halal), they are nowhere near as deviant and the Nation of Islam.

* The Nation of Islam believes that Elijah Muhammad was a messenger and was taught by God Himself, who the NOI claim as "Master" Fard Muhammad (W. D. Fard).
* Islam teaches that Muhammad was the last of the messengers that Allah has sent to mankind — there would be no more and all Muslims are to follow the teachings of the Quran and accept monotheism

# NOI teaches that "Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July 1930; the long-awaited Messiah of the Christians and the Mahdi of the Muslims."[5]
# Traditional Sunni and Shi'a Muslim doctrine is that it is heretical and blasphemous to believe that God would manifest Himself in human form. Likening any individual(s) to God is a form of shirk—a major sin in Islam.

# The Nation of Islam ignores Jumuah, as a pillar of practice for Muslims. This was changed briefly in 2002, when W. Deen Mohammed, a Muslim in opposition of black separatism, delivered the Friday sermon at the Los Angeles Convention Center.[32] The practice of Jumuah prayer for the NOI has since stopped in place of a traditional "Christian" Sunday service.
# Islam dedicates Friday as the congregational prayer (salat) that Muslims hold every Friday, just after noon in lieu of dhuhr (noon prayer

* NOI teaches that the Black man is the original man, and from him came all brown, yellow, and white people. By using a special method of birth control law (the Yakub teaching), the Blackman was able to produce the white race.[16] NOI does not believe that whites are worthy to be evangelized, and thus does not accept them into the NOI.
* Traditional Islam teaches that all races are equal, and any person of any race can convert to Islam. Islam recognizes the Biblical and Qur’anic figure, the patriarch Jacob, but this Jacob is viewed by Muslims as a prophet, not the Yakub featured in Nation of Islam theology.

[bestcigsnick]

The NOI have been unanimously declared as kafir (disbelievers) and anyone who doubts their disbelief is also in a state of disbelief

The places where they worshipped are not masjids, nor are there followers muslims, no matter what they say or do

A total break off from the NOI is required for a person to eventually enter true Islam


May Allah guide us and protect us from such evil beliefs. Ameen