[Mowselelew]

i dont understand the barelwis sometimes, seriously.i wonder what the ulema of deoband say about him...thats more credible than anyone else in pakistan

Sir you are not clearly telling us who is telling the truth, Allah(swt) or Tahir. Moreover the job is done by BRELVI's , why expecting DEOBANDI's To Jump in it.

[moredasers]

Sir you are not clearly telling us who is telling the truth, Allah(swt) or Tahir. Moreover the job is done by BRELVI's , why expecting DEOBANDI's To Jump in it.

aoa,

obviously anybody who goes against the teachings of the Qur'an is telling a lie. But are you a complete master over the Qur'an and tafseer that you are to be taken seriously over anything?are you aware giving an interpretation of the Qur'an according to your opinion is a sin?
when you quote the Qur'an, then quote its description from a tafsir as well.

what i was curious about was what he had actually said, and in what context.secondly, the ulema constantly try and sift out such people's teachings so that laymen dont fall prey to them. this is why i would rather listen to an alim's description of him, rather than yours.

[abouthotels]

aoa,

this is why i would rather listen to an alim's description of him, rather than yours.

not mine, not yours, listen his, see him.

As I posted, Allah and Nabi sallallahu 'alayhi wasallam was ONE, who think they were two entities, he is Kufir!

As I posted Peoples doing SAJADAH to him (with musical Qawali, Dance and with "Ghungroo". Here in sub-continent classical prostitutes ware the Ghungroo in their legs and then she dances)

After that there is no need of a single word!

This the heritage of 'Ala Hazard Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi

[Mowselelew]

Please read yourself 5;73 and 9:30. If you want to listen Tahir Go to Wesite. If you want to defend Tahir it means you believe that Allah is not telling the truth. may Allah Guide us.

[moredasers]

If you want to defend Tahir it means you believe that Allah is not telling the truth.

aoa,

im not defending him. and be careful with regards to judging other people and saying it out loud. lest your accusations bounce back onto you. and just because i do not pronounce takfir upon him like you are doing, doesnt mean i endorse barelvi ideology. i dislike laymen thinking they are above scholars and extremism. why dont you reproduce here a fatwa on tahir ul qadri?someone here said ahmed raza khan's son pronounced takfir on him. yet he is still a barelvi and their fatwas are not endorsed by ahle sunnat wal jamah.
so yeah i shall wait for your fatwa from a reputable scholar.trust me if there is any such fatwa on him, you will see clearly what he is doing wrong. dont fall prey to blind hatred.

[moredasers]

here is an exmaple:
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...l=1#post692939

i wd rather read this than laymen arguing over subtle matters of aqeedah and fiqh without knowledge.
(wallahualam on this particular fatwa tho.i just wanted to give an example)

[abouthotels]

subtle matters of aqeedah and fiqh

Doing sajdah to Tahir ul qadri
Allah ta'ala and Muhammad pbuhm are same entity

[moredasers]

i was being general...not specific

[dhrishiasv]

aoa,

im not defending him. and be careful with regards to judging other people and saying it out loud. lest your accusations bounce back onto you. and just because i do not pronounce takfir upon him like you are doing, doesnt mean i endorse barelvi ideology. i dislike laymen thinking they are above scholars and extremism. why dont you reproduce here a fatwa on tahir ul qadri?someone here said ahmed raza khan's son pronounced takfir on him. yet he is still a barelvi and their fatwas are not endorsed by ahle sunnat wal jamah.
so yeah i shall wait for your fatwa from a reputable scholar.trust me if there is any such fatwa on him, you will see clearly what he is doing wrong. dont fall prey to blind hatred.

How about celebrating """Merry""" Christmas with the nasaaraa?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JigH...eature=related