[markoiutrfffdsa]

I have some religious friends and relatives living in the UK. When I come to the UK , I see them dressed in
Sunnah clothes in day to day life. However, later I was informed that in the offices they are not allowed to wear
sunnah dress. They are forced to wear official uniforms and other western dress.

Is this rule widespread in the UK and other western countries ? Do you know brothers who have managed to get permission to wear sunnah dress even in the job ?

Personally, I know that in the UK universities the students are allowed to wear sunnah dress. However, job-sectors
may not be that liberal.

Anyway, I would like to know your experience.

[artkolkovk]

Very few employers will be prepared to allow it to be honest, though I do know of some Muslims who wear Sunnah (including the Imamah) at work eventhough they have highly paid office jobs.

[markoiutrfffdsa]

Very few employers will be prepared to allow it to be honest, though I do know of some Muslims who wear Sunnah (including the Imamah) at work eventhough they have highly paid office jobs.

What kind of office-jobs are they doing ? One of my relatives is a NHS doctor who is not allowed to wear sunnah dress during the working hours !!

[Vemnagelignc]

generally speaking when doing office work you can what you want. jobs that have their own uniform are strict but sometimes allow things like wearing a topi as long as it blends in with the uniform. most govt jobs are also relaxed as to attire

[kylsq0Ln]

salaam

i have a friend who used to work in the ministry of defence.

he used to wear topi, thobe, sandals and a full beard.

his colleagues called him jesus-man.

[EspnaConCam]

What kind of office-jobs are they doing ? One of my relatives is a NHS doctor who is not allowed to wear sunnah dress during the working hours !!

Really? I know someone very well who is 2 years away from being a consultant in the NHS and has always been allowed to wear his thowb and topi as an NHS doctor. He says the trick is to go to the interview dressed as you would. That way they know what to expect.

[UTHZzJ6f]

He says the trick is to go to the interview dressed as you would. That way they know what to expect.

yeah if a person is brave enough to go at first day with sunnah dress, later it doesnt any matter.

[jstizzle]

He says the trick is to go to the interview dressed as you would. That way they know what to expect.

Very true.

I personally know many brothers in various professions (e.g. Principal IT Consultant, Managing Executive, Doctor, Java Developer, IT Manager, Technician, Architect, Accountant, Teacher, Admin officer, etc.). They all wear the full Sunnah attire (including amamah) to their London based offices.

Masha'Allah, one of them earns more than Gordon Brown! He’ll leave his office / meetings to ensure he makes every salah in jamaat. Clear evidence of rizq minAllah.

[WGRocky]

These stories are really reassuring to read. Each and every blessed sunnah is an attracting noor and a means of protection against certain evils. Plus you get the ajar of shuhadaa with every sunnah you practice in the time of fitnah and fasaad.

[Finkevannon]

:Masha'Allah, one of them earns more than Gordon Brown! He’ll leave his office / meetings to ensure he makes every salah in jamaat. Clear evidence of rizq minAllah.

!!

[womberte]

These replies made me smile. Ma sha Allah.
May Allah reward all your sunnah wearing brothers. Ameen.

I know that many brothers who are deliverymen and taxi drivers wear the sunnah attire to work.

[FEti0TUI]

It's alot worse in the US.

I can't really think of any place that allows wearing sunnah clothes here.

[itaspCatCriny]

It's alot worse in the US.

I can't really think of any place that allows wearing sunnah clothes here.

Salaam,

It's true that "freedom of religion" has restrictions for Muslims in the U.S. However, you can find a few professional jobs that do not care about your attire, for example the U.S. Patent Office.

The reality is that most Westerner corporations are not open to diversity - they will not allow nor hire a brother wearing a turban/beard or a sister wearing hijab/niqab. In most cases, portraying your external (in their style) is more important for Western companies than the amount of knowledge you possess.

[FEti0TUI]

Salaam,

It's true that "freedom of religion" has restrictions for Muslims in the U.S. However, you can find a few professional jobs that do not care about your attire, for example the U.S. Patent Office.

The reality is that most Westerner corporations are not open to diversity - they will not allow nor hire a brother wearing a turban/beard or a sister wearing hijab/niqab. In most cases, portraying your external (in their style) is more important for Western companies than the amount of knowledge you possess.

I used to work at Sears (a large department store chain), and, while they never said anything about me having a beard or folding up my pants, they constantly complained about me not tucking in my shirt. I got multiple warnings for doing so, so I finally just gave up and started tucking in my shirt (At this time I wasn't really aware of Islamic dress, so I didn't wear any sort of kufi/topi).

So, while they are not very lenient with men, they do generally allow women to wear Jilbab/Abaya (two women wore them at the store I worked at), although I do not know what they'd say about the Niqab.

Even then, they may have only been this lenient because the store I wroked at had many Muslims working in it (counting those that didn't practice, more than twenty), and so they were familiar with our practices, even letting us pray in Jama`ah.

[markoiutrfffdsa]

yeah if a person is brave enough to go at first day with sunnah dress, later it doesnt any matter.

Going with Sunnah dress at the very first day may not be applicable in every company in every country. I mean, if the management in a company does not have enough knowledge about Islam , they might get panicked. If the management think that the Muslim guy's sunnah dress will prevent him to be fit into the team and thereby the team-spirit will be damaged, then they will rather not to take the risk of hiring that Muslim guy.

In such companies, we need to be more careful. One good advice might be that the Muslim guy should go to the interview with
the formal dress with the pant above the ankle. Then if he is hired, in the first few months he should continue to wear sunnah dress and will show good behavior with his co-workers and make a campaign of winning the hearts and minds.
Later gradually he will change his dress step by step -- first the cap ( topi ) , then long dress going underneath the knee and so on.

What do you think about this strategy ?

[Finkevannon]

Going with Sunnah dress at the very first day may not be applicable in every company in every country. I mean, if the management in a company does not have enough knowledge about Islam , they might get panicked. If the management think that the Muslim guy's sunnah dress will prevent him to be fit into the team and thereby the team-spirit will be damaged, then they will rather not to take the risk of hiring that Muslim guy.

In such companies, we need to be more careful. One good advice might be that the Muslim guy should go to the interview with
the formal dress with the pant above the ankle. Then if he is hired, in the first few months he should continue to wear sunnah dress and will show good behavior with his co-workers and make a campaign of winning the hearts and minds.
Later gradually he will change his dress step by step -- first the cap ( topi ) , then long dress going underneath the knee and so on.

What do you think about this strategy ?

Yes, I think this gradual strategy fits best the situation of Muslims in those countries in which people isn't used to see Muslims wearing Sunnah dress; UK is another situation, it seems!

[M_Marked]

It's alot worse in the US.

I can't really think of any place that allows wearing sunnah clothes here.

I work in fast food in America and we have to wear baseball caps (with the store logo on them) to contain our hair. I personally wish I could wear a kufi in the store's color, but another Muslim co-worker tried that and wasn't allowed to do it.


Unfortunately, I don't see many Muslims here in the states who follow Sunnah at all. For example, at my masjid there are maybe 150 men in congregation. Only about 10 might have facial hair at all and maybe 2 have a Sunnah beard. Even the imam is clean-shaven.



Alot of my Muslim friends make fun of me because I constantly talk about how envious I am about growing a beard, but it's difficult for me because I'm half Native American Indian (Indians can't grow facial hair). Meanwhile, most Muslims at the masjid are South Asian or Middle Eastern and are blessed to be able to grow facial hair really well, but decide to be clean-shaven. It really makes me frustrated that I want to grow a Sunnah beard but am unable to because of my heritage, but other Muslims who are capable of growing Sunnah beards decide to be clean-shaven.

[htDgExh8]

Bismillah
The moment you apply for a job, it includes certain mode of dressing (officially and unofficialy). I personally would fire someone if one insist on wearing non unofficial dress. If they don't like it, they can find another job. It has nothing to do with sunnah but the contract employers signs. i recall my fathers disslike of some over zealot relegious muslim and is founded on their moronic notion of acceptablity. This officer in the merchent decided to dawn a thoab when there is a clear cut rule of navy outfit.
http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ht=#post575463

[casinobonyanes]

http://www.askimam.org/fatwa/fatwa.p...a219a79e3a042f

[BigMovies]

wearing it in public sector jobs isnt that hard...unless youve got a public facing role.

that "jeusman's" mates still wear it