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Old 04-21-2009, 12:21 AM   #21
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Asslamo Allaikum,

I personally read his books and listen to his talks (particularly his Jummah Khutbah) but many Ulama advise to stay away from him and his works.

So you should consult the matter with the Ulama whom you follow and seek their advice as I do the same.

As far as errors are concerned... No one is perfect
thanks for the clarification, and its true no scholar is perfect NO ONE can reach perfection everyone would have some issue

bro Muadh Khan thanks for all your help, not only on this question but on all the other times you commented when i had a question
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Old 04-21-2009, 12:22 AM   #22
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Assalam Alaikum.

I have heard Doctor Israr extensively. All i can say is that, don't listen to him about Fiqhi matters. Otherwise, he is fine. I really appreciate Doctor Sahib, and his devotion to Quran.
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Old 04-21-2009, 08:42 PM   #23
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salaam

I, once had a privlillage to meet dr.israr and talk to him, briefly. I asked him "I've heard that Maududi sahib has attacked Hadhrat Mu'awiyah in some of his boks, is it correct?" (i knew he did so, but i just shaped the question in this manner). He replied in affirmitive and called his crticisim as "un appropriate" and showed his diapproval of the latter.

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Old 04-22-2009, 01:58 AM   #24
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Assalam Alaikum.

I have heard Doctor Israr extensively. All i can say is that, don't listen to him about Fiqhi matters. Otherwise, he is fine. I really appreciate Doctor Sahib, and his devotion to Quran.
Brother,

Masha'Allah very balanced view

Is that also the opinion of your Ustaads?
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Old 04-22-2009, 10:43 AM   #25
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Brother,

Masha'Allah very balanced view

Is that also the opinion of your Ustaads?
Assalam Alaikum.

Yes and No.

As i have said already that some deobandi ulema are very strict about Doctor Israr and Jamaat-e-Islami. I feel that is very unfair. But Alhamdolilah, i have had very balanced teachers right from the beginning.
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Old 05-02-2009, 07:20 PM   #26
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Brother,

Masha'Allah very balanced view

Is that also the opinion of your Ustaads?
Salaam

I read someone on this forum (abt 1 year back) and he said that he met mufti abu lubabah, personally, and asked abt dr israr from him, mufti sahib said that "he comits mistakes"

Plus, i once saw mufti jameel ahmad al-thanawis article written against the dr.isrars view abt marriage, entitled "Nya firqa nai tehreek".

Dr Israr Ahmed is probably the harshest critic of Maulana Maududi (RA) & Jamaat-e-Islami alive today so its unfair to lump him in the same bracket. Brother, i think that this is not a very fair comment! Although dr.israr detaches himself from many of the "big blunders" made by maududi, but he still considres him to be one of his sources of inspiration--U must be aware of dr israr telling that he has been inspired by 6 personalities, including hadhrat shaykhul-hind, allamah shabbir ahmad usmani, dr.iqbal, maulana azad and maududi . So, to claim that dr israr is the harshest critic of maududi is, i believe, incorrect.

1) Dr Israr Ahmed constantly and continually associates himself with Ulama and asks them for advice and guidance This is true but to "some extenet". Sometimes, dr.israr bashes the ulama, too, on certain issues, for e.g

1. When dr israr was questioned on his comin on the TV, he replied that the ulama have got an :allergic" attitude towards new inventions; Previously, they even labelled prayers through loudspeaker to be haram.

2. I remember once reading dr.israr where he was criticising the ulama of Hind for not "studying" bible and hindu religious books.

3. Most importantly, one gets the impression from his lectures and writings that the ulama are being undutiful, neglectful and hence comiiting a grave sin (since dr israr labells it as a grave sin) in the establishment of khilafah. (at least this is the imression which io got, previously).

So, such statemets, i believe, are defaming the ulama, since, any laymen who'll come across such comments would start distrusting the ulama.

So what’s the problem? Other problems are

1. Firstly, he, too, is a self-styled alim, as was maududi, though, he does not deviates much fom the jamhoor.

2. He does not believes in taqleed--he says that i am a "partial muqallid"--i dont do taqleed of any one particular imam but i do keep myself within the 4 bmadhahibs and the madh-hab of imam bukhari. He endorsed the tqleed 4 the laymen but encoureaged the ulama to not to do the latter.

This view is ofcourse contrary to the beliefs of our ulama.

Wallahu A'lam

wassalaam
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Old 05-02-2009, 09:41 PM   #27
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Salaam

I read someone on this forum (abt 1 year back) and he said that he met mufti abu lubabah, personally, and asked abt dr israr from him, mufti sahib said that "he comits mistakes"

Plus, i once saw mufti jameel ahmad al-thanawis article written against the dr.isrars view abt marriage, entitled "Nya firqa nai tehreek".



Brother, i think that this is not a very fair comment! Although dr.israr detaches himself from many of the "big blunders" made by maududi, but he still considres him to be one of his sources of inspiration--U must be aware of dr israr telling that he has been inspired by 6 personalities, including hadhrat shaykhul-hind, allamah shabbir ahmad usmani, dr.iqbal, maulana azad and maududi . So, to claim that dr israr is the harshest critic of maududi is, i believe, incorrect.



This is true but to "some extenet". Sometimes, dr.israr bashes the ulama, too, on certain issues, for e.g

1. When dr israr was questioned on his comin on the TV, he replied that the ulama have got an :allergic" attitude towards new inventions; Previously, they even labelled prayers through loudspeaker to be haram.

2. I remember once reading dr.israr where he was criticising the ulama of Hind for not "studying" bible and hindu religious books.

3. Most importantly, one gets the impression from his lectures and writings that the ulama are being undutiful, neglectful and hence comiiting a grave sin (since dr israr labells it as a grave sin) in the establishment of khilafah. (at least this is the imression which io got, previously).

So, such statemets, i believe, are defaming the ulama, since, any laymen who'll come across such comments would start distrusting the ulama.



Other problems are

1. Firstly, he, too, is a self-styled alim, as was maududi, though, he does not deviates much fom the jamhoor.

2. He does not believes in taqleed--he says that i am a "partial muqallid"--i dont do taqleed of any one particular imam but i do keep myself within the 4 bmadhahibs and the madh-hab of imam bukhari. He endorsed the tqleed 4 the laymen but encoureaged the ulama to not to do the latter.

This view is ofcourse contrary to the beliefs of our ulama.

Wallahu A'lam

wassalaam
As-salamu 'alaykum,

JazakAllah. Nicely summed up. Unfortunately respected Uncle Muadh Khan's post above was a bit exaggerated.
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Old 05-03-2009, 07:39 AM   #28
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Salaam

I read someone on this forum (abt 1 year back) and he said that he met mufti abu lubabah, personally, and asked abt dr israr from him, mufti sahib said that "he comits mistakes"

Plus, i once saw mufti jameel ahmad al-thanawis article written against the dr.isrars view abt marriage, entitled "Nya firqa nai tehreek".



Brother, i think that this is not a very fair comment! Although dr.israr detaches himself from many of the "big blunders" made by maududi, but he still considres him to be one of his sources of inspiration--U must be aware of dr israr telling that he has been inspired by 6 personalities, including hadhrat shaykhul-hind, allamah shabbir ahmad usmani, dr.iqbal, maulana azad and maududi . So, to claim that dr israr is the harshest critic of maududi is, i believe, incorrect.



This is true but to "some extenet". Sometimes, dr.israr bashes the ulama, too, on certain issues, for e.g

1. When dr israr was questioned on his comin on the TV, he replied that the ulama have got an :allergic" attitude towards new inventions; Previously, they even labelled prayers through loudspeaker to be haram.

2. I remember once reading dr.israr where he was criticising the ulama of Hind for not "studying" bible and hindu religious books.

3. Most importantly, one gets the impression from his lectures and writings that the ulama are being undutiful, neglectful and hence comiiting a grave sin (since dr israr labells it as a grave sin) in the establishment of khilafah. (at least this is the imression which io got, previously).

So, such statemets, i believe, are defaming the ulama, since, any laymen who'll come across such comments would start distrusting the ulama.



Other problems are

1. Firstly, he, too, is a self-styled alim, as was maududi, though, he does not deviates much fom the jamhoor.

2. He does not believes in taqleed--he says that i am a "partial muqallid"--i dont do taqleed of any one particular imam but i do keep myself within the 4 bmadhahibs and the madh-hab of imam bukhari. He endorsed the tqleed 4 the laymen but encoureaged the ulama to not to do the latter.

This view is ofcourse contrary to the beliefs of our ulama.

Wallahu A'lam

wassalaam
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Old 05-03-2009, 05:28 PM   #29
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2. He does not believes in taqleed--he says that i am a "partial muqallid"--i dont do taqleed of any one particular imam but i do keep myself within the 4 bmadhahibs and the madh-hab of imam bukhari. He endorsed the tqleed 4 the laymen but encoureaged the ulama to not to do the latter.

This view is ofcourse contrary to the beliefs of our ulama.

Wallahu A'lam

wassalaam


Following this phantom madhab of Imam Bukhari (ra) is a common sign of Ahl-e-Hadith, no? I guess he is on the same logic spectrum in which Salafism is at one end, and Modernism on another. Maududi is on there too, I think Dr. Israr just takes positions closer to normal Ulema more often than Maududi. So is he like a rogue Sunni-Salafi hybrid?
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:58 AM   #30
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I have had very close contact to the people of Tanzeem e islaami and my friends are also from it. Honestly, if you guys knew the way he spent his life, his ikhlaas, and his dedication to the Qur'an; you would be mesmerized. He was a man of his words and MANY, MANY people whom I personally know throughout the world have been guided to Islam by Allah through him. And, personally, a thing I like about him, is that he is definitely familiar with many of the rising issues which Deobandi ulemaa ARE unaware about, as 'karwa' or bitter as it sounds; and and currently I am studying under an aalim who also has shared me his criticism of Dr. Israr and I have read many books by Ashraf Ali Thaanwi r.a. (so I'm not a one-sided person) and if you realize, he himself emphasizes the need for ulemaa to be intelligent in other sciences (ie. Medicine, business, etc..) and be aware in what is going on in the world. This is what Dr. Israr Ahmed r.a. supports and preaches: be knowledgeable and act upon that knowledge.
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