[TOD4wDTQ]

Has anyone read the book Muhammed (pbuh) his life based on the earliest sources by Martin Ling?
and what are there opinions about the book?

[Slonopotam845]

As-Salamu ´Alaykum,

It is a good book. However, as in other books of Sirah, not everything is necessarily authentic.

wa'Llahu a'lam

[tobia]

Asalam Alykum WrWb

I have heard the audio lectures of Shaykh Hamza Yusuf in which he used Martin Lings book. Its a good book to read for seerah literature but as mentioned by Shaykh, Martin lings does go a bit astray in few parts of the book. So best is to listen to the audio, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf rectifys the mistakes Martin Lings has made.

[TOD4wDTQ]

As-Salamu ´Alaykum,
I have recently started to read the book and I must say it is a good book however it has developed slight confusions for me,
hence I will definitely need to listen to Shaykh Hamza Yusuf audio speech about the book.
Jazakala Khair

[Unjucky]

Asalam Alykum WrWb

I have heard the audio lectures of Shaykh Hamza Yusuf in which he used Martin Lings book. Its a good book to read for seerah literature but as mentioned by Shaykh, Martin lings does go a bit astray in few parts of the book. So best is to listen to the audio, Shaykh Hamza Yusuf rectifys the mistakes Martin Lings has made.

agreed, the Shaykh's audio commentary is stunning. I have Alhumdullilah got many people to listen to it, and every single person who has started the series so far has loved it. read the book, then listen to the commentary.

[TOD4wDTQ]

Wa'Alaykum Asalam

Where could I find Shaykh Humza Yusuf's audio commentary, Is it on Youtube?
Jzk

[pageup85]

Salam 'Aleykum,

I heard it is good but inaccurate and has few mistakes, I'd stick to books written by famous scholars/historians but I guess there is no harm in reading this one, if I had it I'd read it out of curiosity.

[BDDkDvgZ]

If you're looking for book in English on the Prophet , then you won't find a better book than this one.
There are some mistakes in it but you might not notice. Listen to Shayk Hamza's commentary on this one.

[tobia]

Wa'Alaykum Asalam

Where could I find Shaykh Humza Yusuf's audio commentary, Is it on Youtube?
Jzk

http://www.ilookisee.co.uk/Lectures/...20Muhammad.htm

[ceagsoosy]

Is it true Martin Lings wasn't Muslim?

[anfuckinggs]

Somebody had posted a PDF of Ml Abu-Bilal Kanadee's correspondence with Martin Lings (in a Saudi newspapers) here at SF. That might clarify some of the points. OP can find and consult that. I'll also try to find it, IA.
Wassalam

PS: The link is there in the OP here.

[Poothevokprot]

agreed, the Shaykh's audio commentary is stunning. I have Alhumdullilah got many people to listen to it, and every single person who has started the series so far has loved it. read the book, then listen to the commentary.

is Shaykh Hamza's audio that good?

[18holesin]

His sirah is very good but a few minor opinions were taken. The best sirah in the english language I have read. I remember I could not put the book down. His other works are very interesting but maybe he had some issues with certain aqaaid so better to tread with caution.

[TOD4wDTQ]

Is it true Martin Lings wasn't Muslim?

It is believed that Martin Lings was born to a Protestant family, however he reverted to Islam.

[treawittelf]

MashaAllah I found this book to be very captivating, it really does bring the Seerah to light.

Only problem I found on first reading it was that there are an awful lot of names which can be difficult to digest if you haven't studied much of the seerah. This is probably good as a second read after some more basic material first... well it was for me anyway

[carpartsho]

I think it is by far the best sirah in the English language. Martin Lings was a Shakespearean scholar and it shows. Many of the inaccuracies were pointed out in a preface for one of the European language translations (I forget which) by Shaykh G. F. Haddad: http://www.scribd.com/doc/52879411/C...ings-GF-Haddad

I think it is a bit harsh sometimes, but it does a good job in pointing out a few occurrences in the book where unfortunate wording was used. I plan to listen to Shaykh Hamza's audio series soon, insha Allah.

Overall, however, I very much recommend this book.

[TOD4wDTQ]

Asalam Alaykum
I had a question regarding the book Muhammad (saw) his life based on the earliest sources by Martin Lings.

Basically in the book, page 17 it quotes " Christians sometimes came to do honor to the Sanctuary of Abraham and they were made welcome like all the rest. Moreover one Christian had been allowed and even couraged to paint an icon of the Virgin Mary and the child Christ on an inside wall of the K a'bah"

Is this true?
(I have not read all the book yet and have only heard the first piece of the audio by Sheikh Humza Yusaf which has not covered this quote)

Jzk

[carpartsho]

The document I linked to above discusses this; I will quote the relevant portion:

Lings’ “Ka¢ba icons” episode is a notorious element of the Catholico-perennialist persona of his book. First he writes: (VI,17, 2) “One Christian had been allowed and even encouraged to paint an icon of the Virgin Mary and the child Christ onan inside wall of the Ka¢bah, where it sharply contrasted with all the other paintings.” That the image was an “icon” in theritual Christian Orthodox sense or, if not, that its painter was even a Christian; that he was actually “encouraged to paint” it;or that it “contrasted with all the other paintings” is all sourceless speculation and pure Lingsian poetic license. Then hewrites in the chapter entitled “The Conquest of Mecca” (LXXV, 302, 4): “Apart from the icon of the Virgin Mary and thechild Jesus, and a paiting of an old man, said to be Abraham, the walls inside had been covered with pictures of pagandeities. Placing his hand protectively over the icon, the Prophet told ¢Uthm¥n to see that all the other paintings, except thatof Abraham, were effaced.” The footnote continues: “W¥qidÏ’s
Magh¥zÏ
p. 834 and AzraqÏ’s
Akhb¥r Makka
I, 107. Butother accounts say ‘all’ without mention of these two exceptions.” In reality
all
accounts say “all”:- Even these versions do not except the image of the Virgin Mary but only that of Ibr¥hÏm †. Lings adds the word “other”from his own head in the clause “to see that all the
other
paintings, except that of Abraham, were effaced.”- Al-W¥qidÏ does not mention “pictures of pagan deities” but rather “imagery of angels and others.”- The Prophet œ nowhere is said to be “placing his hand
protectively
over the icon” but rather: “Then he caught sight of the image of Maryam and immediately placed his hand over it
(thumma ra’¥ |‰rata Maryam fa-wa\a¢a yadahu ¢alayh¥)
. Thenhe said
(thumma q¥l)
: ‘Erase every single image in it except the image of Ibr¥hÏm!’” If authentic, the meaning is – and All¥hknows best – that out of his magnificent sense of modesty and
adab
the Prophet œ would not have anyone even glance atthe image of the most pure Virgin Maryam before it was washed away at once – by himself – and her chastity protected.- As for his excepting the image of Ibr¥hÏm, it only meant – and All¥h knows best – he was leaving it for last since it wasQuranically the least offensive of all in comparison to Maryam and the angels, although its offensiveness is established fromthe fact he curses its painters: “All¥h destroy them! They made him an old man casting arrows for divination!”- He does not address ¢Uthman but ¢Umar; and on the same page actually tells him to erase the image of Ibr¥hÏm at last. Sorry the formatting got a little strange, please see the linked document, page 6 (better to download the pdf there than view it in the site though).

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