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scoussysows 07-25-2011 03:07 PM

UK Murtads Begging For Money.
 
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It gives me great pleasure to inform all of you that the apostates in the UK have been reduced to sending out begging letters to the Charity Commissioner and other supporters for money. Here is an email sent by one of these kaafirs for a handout. Please send your old underwear and razors to Maryam Namazie, Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain. It seems that they have been abandoned by their masters.
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"Dear friends
I wanted to thank you for your support of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain. As you know we were in desperate need of financial help and are grateful for the donations of many generous individuals and groups.
What we do – breaking the taboo that comes with renouncing Islam and challenging a movement that sentences apostates to death – is considered ‘controversial’ to say the least and makes it almost impossible to get support from mainstream funders. Also, we haven’t been able to secure charity status.
In its refusal letter the Charity Commission says: “Under English law the advancement of religion is a recognised charitable purpose and charities are afforded certain fiscal privileges by the state. The prohibition of any such financial privilege as called for in the demand made in Manifesto would require a change in law. Similarly a separation of religion from the state and legal and education system would appear to require both constitutional reform and change to the law.”
There is something fundamentally wrong when the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain can’t get charity status but the Sharia Council legislating misogyny in its sharia courts can. And how absurd that defending secularism is not a charitable object but advancing religion is, particularly in this day and age when we are living under an Islamic Inquisition.
Much of the struggle for change throughout history has included demands for changes in the law and in religion’s role in the public space. And this is something the Council of Ex-Muslims will continue to do with your support.
Again, thank you. Please do continue to support us in any way you can; every little bit http://discussworldissues.com/forums...cheesygrin.gifhelps go a long way in the fight that lies ahead.
Warmest wishes
Maryam Namazie.

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What I don't understand is this. By taking off their Muslim clothes have they also taken off their education and skills and jobs? Did they think that the Brits would feed them just because they abandoned Islam and opened up a "council of x-men"? Since every little "bit" seems to be of great help to them I am forced to think that this is a group of useless, good for nothing oppurtunists who thought that renouncing Islam would bring in a flood of money, fame and homes...none of which happened to them. Well....I am posting my old underwear to you, Ms "Namazi". Don't know if it will fit you though. Burn in hell.http://discussworldissues.com/forums...cheesygrin.gif

chuviskkk 07-25-2011 03:17 PM

Hadhrat Dr sab no need for such comments "I am posting my old underwear to you, Ms "Namazi". Don't know if it will fit you though. Burn in hell"

It is not conduct befitting of your good self!

steevyjeors 07-25-2011 03:44 PM

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Hadhrat Dr sab no need for such comments "I am posting my old underwear to you, Ms "Namazi". Don't know if it will fit you though. Burn in hell"

It is not conduct befitting of your good self!
why not? I think this is very applicable response to filthy murtadeen dogs like maryam namazi. not only has she abandoned islam, she wages war on islam, so she deserves everything she gets

sam 07-25-2011 03:56 PM

Salam Alikum,

Maryam Namazie is very strong in her arguments.
Anyway - most of those peole just fight for their own popularity. I dont understand the point of peopel who all the time fight agaianst any religion or even atheism. Diging and showing/attacking what is wrong here and there. I think we take care of ourself and only reply to opponents, we as muslims do not start attacking anyone.
W salam

TEFSADDERFISA 07-25-2011 07:45 PM

Old underwear is too good for them

actioliGalm 07-25-2011 07:52 PM

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also check how CNN exposed Walid Shoebat last week I think. The videos are available on youtube.

These murtads never learnt from history. Even from our Prophet(http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/pbuh.gif)'s era till now, most murtads are humiliated by the non-believers. I guest that's fair considering that they tried very hard to slander Islam through misinformations and false accusations, and we have Allah(http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/taala.gif) Whom will safeguard Islam and muslims http://discussworldissues.com/forums...ilies/insh.gif.

actioliGalm 07-25-2011 07:54 PM

sorry for double post. The server listed as internal error so I refreshed my page and here it is, double postings.

Again, sorry for that.

MgpojuWy 07-25-2011 10:54 PM

May Allah guide them back to Islam and cleanse them of their evil ways. If not, disgrace and humiliation awaits them in thie world.

Such is the Punishment (in this life); but greater is the Punishment in the Hereafter,- if only they knew! [68:34]

masterboyz 07-25-2011 11:02 PM

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why not? I think this is very applicable response to filthy murtadeen dogs like maryam namazi. not only has she abandoned islam, she wages war on islam, so she deserves everything she gets
There are murtads who became Muslims again. Sayyiduna 'Umar رضي الله عنه was on his way to kill the Prophet عليه السلام, do you think the Sahaba cursed Sayyiduna 'Umar رضي الله عنه at the moment he appeared in front of the Prophet عليه السلام with his sword or did they pray for his guidance?

MgpojuWy 07-25-2011 11:08 PM

NB: Sayyiduna Umar (RA) was never a murtad (we seek refuge). He was a mushrik before he accepted Islam.

MgpojuWy 07-25-2011 11:13 PM

A good example, however, is Tulayha ibn Khuwaylid ibn Nawfal al-Asad.

He went as far to claim prophethood but later when he repented, he fought as a mujahid and died as a Muslim.

Therefore, nothing is impossible. Allah guides who He wills.

kucheravka 07-26-2011 07:52 AM

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There are murtads who became Muslims again.
Alhamdulillah.

Still, what Shari'ah prescribes about murtaddin cannot be changed by what our experience say.

tpdirorg 07-26-2011 08:06 AM

These apostates are typical. They leave Islam and then spread misinformation about Islam {and I don't mean like calling us all "terrorists." I mean saying disgusting things about the Prophet sall Allahu 'alayhi wa sallaam that are horrible falsehoods}.
The behavior of certain apostates is disgusting. They appeal to Western imperialism and dehumanize the Ummah by claiming we are parasites that deserve to have war waged on us {Ayaan Hirsi Ali comes to mind}

PaulRyansew 07-26-2011 09:57 AM

salam if a murtad returns to islam all is forgiven and the hukm cannot be carried out right?

scoussysows 07-26-2011 12:45 PM

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Alhamdulillah.

Still, what Shari'ah prescribes about murtaddin cannot be changed by what our experience say.
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Exactly. Once they become enemies of Islam they are our enemies. If Allah guides them back to the faith well and good but we owe them nothing....except our old underwear..http://discussworldissues.com/forums...cheesygrin.gif

AdobebePhoto 07-26-2011 01:11 PM

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No this still is not a nice phrase.
Wassalam

JonnTEN 07-26-2011 01:47 PM

these murtads do not deserve kindness in most cases. What did sayidinah Abu Bakr rh say to a person about biting on something? Maybe somebody could reproduce the quote. Good akhlaaq is not shown to people who hurl abuse at Rasulullah sallahuwaslaam.

scoussysows 07-26-2011 02:02 PM

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these murtads do not deserve kindness in most cases. What did sayidinah Abu Bakr rh say to a person about biting on something? Maybe somebody could reproduce the quote. Good akhlaaq is not shown to people who hurl abuse at Rasulullah sallahuwaslaam.
Bahr al-Ra'iq: "This same is the decree for a person who insults any Prophet: he will not be pardoned. His repentance after proof will be of no use, because repentance of an apostate of his apostasy is only to escape punishment. The question of repentance arises only when it is permitted. Infidelity as a result of insulting the Holy Prophet (Sall Allahu Alaihi wa Sallam) and other Prophets is not of an ordinary type. There is no forgiveness at all in that case." (Volume 5. Page 135)

kucheravka 07-26-2011 07:37 PM

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salam if a murtad returns to islam all is forgiven and the hukm cannot be carried out right?
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Yes, right.

Hrennilasi 07-26-2011 08:24 PM

http://discussworldissues.com/forums...lies/salam.gif wr wb, I for one totally understand and agree with bro Umar's hate for the murtads.
remember, there is a great deal of difference between the kuffar & the murtads.

May Allah SWT keep guide us and keep us on the straight path, and may Allah SWT guide these murtads too. Aameen.


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