Junaid Jamshed Singing - Now What would you people say? - DiscussWorldIssues - Socio-Economic Religion and Political Uncensored Debate

**Immampdah** · 10-11-2011, 07:40 PM

Assalam-O-Alaikum!

Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf!
Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4

**mdUzAMbG** · 10-11-2011, 07:43 PM

I think its like patriotic song..

I don't see any big issue there...

**Indessasp** · 10-11-2011, 07:43 PM

Assalam-O-Alaikum!

Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf!
Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4

Walaikumus salaam,

I think Patriotic songs are allowed.

**Falik** · 10-11-2011, 08:06 PM

Assalam-O-Alaikum!

Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf!
Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4

People is "against" Sami Yusuf because he uses MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, which are Haram; singing is usually fine - although I would see problems in the women shouting in the video.

**Immampdah** · 10-11-2011, 09:02 PM

What are you people saying

Singing is Halal or haram?

**Falik** · 10-11-2011, 09:05 PM

What are you people saying

Singing is Halal or haram?

Singing (without musical instruments) is fine.

Music (i.e. using musical instruments) is haram.

**SallyIsNice5** · 10-11-2011, 09:16 PM

I think brother Junaid Jamshed was wrong in doing what he did. This gathering involved free mixing, screaming girls/women, and complete lack of any Islamic guidelines and rules. He should not have attended this event when he was here in Toronto.

The issue is not with the singing itself, though, because singing songs without musical instrument and when the song is not about something immoral or against Islam, it is fine. But singing this song to such an audience was not a good thing, either.

**Pcodaygs** · 10-11-2011, 09:19 PM

I think brother Junaid Jamshed was wrong in doing what he did. This gathering involved free mixing, screaming girls/women, and complete lack of any Islamic guidelines and rules. He should not have attended this event when he was here in Toronto.

The issue is not with the singing itself, though, because singing songs without musical instrument and when the song is not about something immoral or against Islam, it is fine. But singing this song to such an audience was not a good thing, either.

**cmruloah** · 10-11-2011, 09:32 PM

he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding...

is it allowed?

**SallyIsNice5** · 10-11-2011, 09:36 PM

he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding...

is it allowed?

It is irrelevant if he is from TJ. I'm also TJ and pro-TJ but I'm against what he did. He is not an 'alim so we should not be putting him under a microscope either. Barelvis do this often where they attack brother Junaid Jamshed even though he is not an 'alim. He is an inspiration for us to leave un-Islamic lifestyles but we'll be fooling ourselves if we emulate him in everything.

**cmruloah** · 10-11-2011, 09:40 PM

br. i am not telling if he is alim or not. i hardly care but i am curious to know the teachings..what tjs teach people... are they following it for themselves in the first place.

**Pcodaygs** · 10-11-2011, 09:41 PM

he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding...

is it allowed?

errm why do we need to see what tj's say? thats irrevelent. it does'nt mean that if a tj does something wrong, all the tj's are responsibe for it or that they need to give answers for it.

**cmruloah** · 10-11-2011, 09:44 PM

errm why do we need to see what tj's say? thats irrevelent. it does'nt mean that if a tj does something wrong, all the tj's are responsibe for it and don't need to answer.

what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you.

**Pcodaygs** · 10-11-2011, 09:48 PM

what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you.

is he a TJ leader (like an influence and senior to TJ's)?

**cmruloah** · 10-11-2011, 09:50 PM

is he a TJ leader (like an influence and senior to TJ's)?

that's so silly! so u just follow the leader...but tjs comprises of people ...every tj represents the teaching of tj...

**mdUzAMbG** · 10-11-2011, 09:51 PM

what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you.

Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant..

Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah

.. so they prayed for him and

he then left it completely...

**cmruloah** · 10-11-2011, 09:55 PM

Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant..

Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah .. so they prayed for him and he then left it completely...

see i am worried about the baby boomers...they are the most confused kids in todays world. if u go around and teach those kids and next day u are in the mids of the mix gathering... so how can these kids justify the teachings of tj.

**ovH9wfSJ** · 10-11-2011, 09:57 PM

he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding...

is it allowed?

he is from Muslims.....and there are many muslims on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding...

is it allowed?
what do you think sister ?

and this should be a lesson to everyone who think that brother junaid is the poster boy for tj ... guess what
he's not and never was. TJ doesnot need poster boys and to this day the bulk of the work and most sacrifices
are done by nobodys.

and i can go on about how damaging and dangerous is this "hunt" for other people mistakes but why even bother.

**wMceqj7F** · 10-11-2011, 09:58 PM

Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant..

Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah .. so they prayed for him and he then left it completely...

As a kaffara, JJ must be sent for another 4 months.

**Foucceedo** · 10-11-2011, 09:58 PM

that's so silly! so u just follow the leader...but tjs comprises of people ...every tj represents the teaching of tj...

To begin with he has been a big time singer. He has made his journey to TJ. If you listen to his story you'll realize that he is making a journey to align himself more and more with Islam. I suppose we can not ask for more.

10-11-2011, 07:40 PM	#1
Immampdah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 744 Senior Member	Junaid Jamshed Singing - Now What would you people say? Assalam-O-Alaikum! Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf! Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4 Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 07:43 PM	#2
mdUzAMbG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	I think its like patriotic song.. I don't see any big issue there... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 07:43 PM	#3
Indessasp Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 458 Senior Member	Assalam-O-Alaikum! Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf! Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4 Walaikumus salaam, I think Patriotic songs are allowed. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 08:06 PM	#4
Falik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	Assalam-O-Alaikum! Well, I don't want to spread any hatred but I am just curious to know that would you people support him for singing. As, you people are against Sami yusuf! Infact, Sami's didn't sing a song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T3SH1DNPj4 People is "against" Sami Yusuf because he uses MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS, which are Haram; singing is usually fine - although I would see problems in the women shouting in the video. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:02 PM	#5
Immampdah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 744 Senior Member	What are you people saying Singing is Halal or haram? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:05 PM	#6
Falik Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 518 Senior Member	What are you people saying Singing is Halal or haram? Singing (without musical instruments) is fine. Music (i.e. using musical instruments) is haram. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:16 PM	#7
SallyIsNice5 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 553 Senior Member	I think brother Junaid Jamshed was wrong in doing what he did. This gathering involved free mixing, screaming girls/women, and complete lack of any Islamic guidelines and rules. He should not have attended this event when he was here in Toronto. The issue is not with the singing itself, though, because singing songs without musical instrument and when the song is not about something immoral or against Islam, it is fine. But singing this song to such an audience was not a good thing, either. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:19 PM	#8
Pcodaygs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	I think brother Junaid Jamshed was wrong in doing what he did. This gathering involved free mixing, screaming girls/women, and complete lack of any Islamic guidelines and rules. He should not have attended this event when he was here in Toronto. The issue is not with the singing itself, though, because singing songs without musical instrument and when the song is not about something immoral or against Islam, it is fine. But singing this song to such an audience was not a good thing, either. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:32 PM	#9
cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding... is it allowed? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:36 PM	#10
SallyIsNice5 Join Date Nov 2005 Posts 553 Senior Member	he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding... is it allowed? It is irrelevant if he is from TJ. I'm also TJ and pro-TJ but I'm against what he did. He is not an 'alim so we should not be putting him under a microscope either. Barelvis do this often where they attack brother Junaid Jamshed even though he is not an 'alim. He is an inspiration for us to leave un-Islamic lifestyles but we'll be fooling ourselves if we emulate him in everything. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:40 PM	#11
cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	br. i am not telling if he is alim or not. i hardly care but i am curious to know the teachings..what tjs teach people... are they following it for themselves in the first place. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:41 PM	#12
Pcodaygs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding... is it allowed? errm why do we need to see what tj's say? thats irrevelent. it does'nt mean that if a tj does something wrong, all the tj's are responsibe for it or that they need to give answers for it. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:44 PM	#13
cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	errm why do we need to see what tj's say? thats irrevelent. it does'nt mean that if a tj does something wrong, all the tj's are responsibe for it and don't need to answer. what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:48 PM	#14
Pcodaygs Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 414 Senior Member	what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you. is he a TJ leader (like an influence and senior to TJ's)? Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:50 PM	#15
cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	is he a TJ leader (like an influence and senior to TJ's)? that's so silly! so u just follow the leader...but tjs comprises of people ...every tj represents the teaching of tj... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:51 PM	#16
mdUzAMbG Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 465 Senior Member	what i know that...if u teach people something u should be the role model for the people to follow you. Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant.. Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah .. so they prayed for him and he then left it completely... Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:55 PM	#17
cmruloah Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 490 Senior Member	Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant.. Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah .. so they prayed for him and he then left it completely... see i am worried about the baby boomers...they are the most confused kids in todays world. if u go around and teach those kids and next day u are in the mids of the mix gathering... so how can these kids justify the teachings of tj. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:57 PM	#18
ovH9wfSJ Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 514 Senior Member	he is from tj.....and many tjs are on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding... is it allowed? he is from Muslims.....and there are many muslims on this forum so let's see what they have to say regarding... is it allowed? what do you think sister ? and this should be a lesson to everyone who think that brother junaid is the poster boy for tj ... guess what he's not and never was. TJ doesnot need poster boys and to this day the bulk of the work and most sacrifices are done by nobodys. and i can go on about how damaging and dangerous is this "hunt" for other people mistakes but why even bother. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:58 PM	#19
wMceqj7F Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 478 Senior Member	Sister, every human being is in need of guidance. If you just come to tj and tell people not to do wrong things.. he doesnt become god father at an instant.. Junaid Jamshed joined tj, went for four months..left beard.. again trimmed it.. did stage shows.. people within tj were very angry with him..but elders knew that guidance is from Allah .. so they prayed for him and he then left it completely... As a kaffara, JJ must be sent for another 4 months. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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10-11-2011, 09:58 PM	#20
Foucceedo Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 420 Senior Member	that's so silly! so u just follow the leader...but tjs comprises of people ...every tj represents the teaching of tj... To begin with he has been a big time singer. He has made his journey to TJ. If you listen to his story you'll realize that he is making a journey to align himself more and more with Islam. I suppose we can not ask for more. Share Share this post on Digg Del.icio.us Technorati Twitter
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