[jinnamys]

Asslamualaikum.

Can someone tell me if every Muslim has to strive for Sharia Law in non-Muslim countries?
I never actually knew this but people are telling me that as a Muslim it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law? Is this true?

[imictiorume]

Asslamualaikum.

Can someone tell me if every Muslim has to strive for Sharia Law in non-Muslim countries?
I never actually knew this but people are telling me that as a Muslim it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law? Is this true?

yes brother this is true it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law .......... and keep passing this information to all your friends and other muslim brothers as well ok , we have to strive for Sharia LAW

[Cerilopasei]

yes brother this is true it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law .......... and keep passing this information to all your friends and other muslim brothers as well ok , we have to strive for Sharia LAW

Of course you can have sharia law in Islamic countries but how can this work in non muslim countries if the majority are not muslim?

[BiseCreesia]

Asslamualaikum.

Can someone tell me if every Muslim has to strive for Sharia Law in non-Muslim countries?
I never actually knew this but people are telling me that as a Muslim it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law? Is this true?

Yes it's true, but this regards place where there is an Islamic authority; i.e. where most likely the majority of population or anyway strong segments of it are Muslims.
In non-Muslim countries where Islam is a tiny minority, striving for Shari'ah is a far objective: still in the focus, but with many other things in the middle.

[55TRATTERENRY]

Of course you can have sharia law in Islamic countries but how can this work in non muslim countries if the majority are not muslim?

Shari'ah won't be applicable to non-Muslims since they would be the majority. Shari'ah would be applicable upon Muslims only.

[Cerilopasei]

Shari'ah won't be applicable to non-Muslims since they would be the majority. Shari'ah would be applicable upon Muslims only.

With the majority ruling and 1 constitution, how can that work? Is there an example of it anywhere in the world?

[Pheddytrourry]

With the majority ruling and 1 constitution, how can that work? Is there an example of it anywhere in the world?

If there would exist mulsticultural society and not the pressure for asimilation then it would be possible. Working in Singapore (partly) as far I know.

[Cerilopasei]

If there would exist mulsticultural society and not the pressure for asimilation then it would be possible. Working in Singapore as far I know.

I think multiculturalism is a positive thing. From my experience here in Ireland, up till 15, 20 years ago, you would rarely see anyone other than white christians. Now where I live, I see all cultures. When you live in a place where you only have your own kind, it can really lead to tunnel vision. It is a thing for children to grow up together with different backgrounds. It breaks down barriers.

[repldoinfo]

in my humble uneducated opinion, it's not practical in a non muslim country. you have to change the whole fabric of society and that just isn't possible. some so called muslims would run a mile from it so imagine the non muslim who is ignorant of it. The only thing he knows is forced veils, "honour killings" and hands being chopped off. what's needed is education first on what shariah means; a social construct for the betterment of the individual. from there we can move on. otherwise with trash media painting a warped view of it constantly, the average pub going simpleton and his mother are experts on "Shariah".

Hamza Yusuf addresses this briefly in a talk and how it just isn't feasible in a non muslim country like USA. I agree. Even amongst the muslim masses it just wouldn't work when there is poverty etc around.

Shariah is precise in everything and it's all interlinked. any loose end affects the functioning of the system as a whole.

having said that, with the complete breakdown of society in the west, and the possible advent of an Islamic state run purely on Islam (soon Inshallah), things get interesting.

[Pheddytrourry]

Even amongst the muslim masses it just wouldn't work when there is poverty etc around.

Salam alikum,

i thing you posted great comment but I can not agree with above. Or may be I misunderstood this statement. Sharia covers everything incl. system - how to deal with poverty, and how to distribute wealth to avoid poverty. Not all is ideal in our world, sharia is for everything and for every situaion.

[gogFloark]

Asslamualaikum.

Can someone tell me if every Muslim has to strive for Sharia Law in non-Muslim countries?
I never actually knew this but people are telling me that as a Muslim it is obligatory for us to get Sharia Law? Is this true?

stay away from this bro, it makes us looks like idiots honestly.

Strive to show the non muslims the beauty of Islam, dont become a mojo and go on marches through teh street with some type of expectation that it will bring shariah law.

For anyone who believes we must bring shariah law here, I have one question:

When the sahaba lives in abasinia, under christian rule, can you give me one evidnece taht the prophet ordered them to bring shariah law to teh people.

Can you give me one example of any time during the prophet salallahu alayhi wassalam when he started with shariah law?

When he sent mua'adh ibn jabal to yemen, did he order them to start with non has teh right to be worshipped except Allah and Muhamamd is his messenger, then salaah, then zakat to be given to the poor YEMENIES or did he said go over there and tell them they must have shariah law?

Give me one example from teh seerah to say we must begin with shariah law when they are idol worshippers?

[IRYzouNv]

Learn the meaning of the word Sharia, before you start the thread. People will eventually discuss this topic without even knowing what they are talking about.

About the non-muslim sharia thingy.

I think it's important to get sharia in the muslim lands first, and establish the caliphate. Ruling with sharia in a non-muslim country, would not make a lot sense at this time.

W/salam.

[gogFloark]

I think multiculturalism is a positive thing. From my experience here in Ireland, up till 15, 20 years ago, you would rarely see anyone other than white christians. Now where I live, I see all cultures. When you live in a place where you only have your own kind, it can really lead to tunnel vision. It is a thing for children to grow up together with different backgrounds. It breaks down barriers.

Im glad to hear your open mindedness and respect for others, thanks for posting

[repldoinfo]

Salam alikum,

i thing you posted great comment but I can not agree with above. Or may be I misunderstood this statement. Sharia covers everything incl. system - how to deal with poverty, and how to distribute wealth to avoid poverty. Not all is ideal in our world, sharia is for everything and for every situaion.

i meant to say poverty amongst muslims in non muslim lands AND muslim lands which aren't governed by Shariah. Please refer to Saudi arabia which is NOT Shariah governed. In a Shariah based government, the Caliph strives to eliminate poverty not the other way round and plunder the people's wealth as is the case in the rotten state of Saudi.

one can argue there isn't much poverty amongst muslims in non muslim lands like USA. however, how much of a community is there even in these muslim enclaves? the first rule on a micro level in Islam is the right of the neighbour. we haven't even mastered that so how can society flourish as a whole and make the most of a Shariah based system?

this is a huge topic and there are many ramifications involved which involve much more than economical and judicial solutions. something the brothers who march with placards haven't grasped.

as i said, Shariah is precise and there can be no loose ends.

[Pheddytrourry]

Salam,
yes now I got what you mean, I think you are right in this respect.
salam alikum

[adultcomicssitedessaa]

historically speaking, shariah was the law of land in Muslim-ruled, Hindu majority India for a millenium almost. Untill the last century, the muslims didnot follow/ enforce any law except shariah anywhere in the world they ruled. Its a trajedy that post colonial Muslim rulers have abandoned shariah and took to man made laws imported from the kuffar due to the inferiority complex and lack of true faith in their religion.

[BiseCreesia]

historically speaking, shariah was the law of land in Muslim-ruled, Hindu majority India for a millenium almost. Untill the last century, the muslims didnot follow/ enforce any law except shariah anywhere in the world they ruled. Its a trajedy that post colonial Muslim rulers have abandoned shariah and took to man made laws imported from the kuffar due to the inferiority complex and lack of true faith in their religion.

[Cinzomzm]

With the majority ruling and 1 constitution, how can that work? Is there an example of it anywhere in the world?

India though is a non-muslim country has a muslim personal (shariah) law. Though the administrative punishment (like cutting hands of theif etc..) according to islam is not included in it. This law is approved by the Government of India and all muslim cases in court are discussed according to Islamic Shariah rules

[IRYzouNv]

Sharia law in muslim countries, then kafir countries.

But there is no muslim country.

[Pheddytrourry]

India though is a non-muslim country has a muslim personal (shariah) law. Though the administrative punishment (like cutting hands of theif etc..) according to islam is not included in it. This law is approved by the Government of India and all muslim cases in court are discussed according to Islamic Shariah rules

Salam alikum,
it seems this is way how the multiculturalism could work....

W salam