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Old 09-21-2011, 10:24 PM   #1
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Default Can we make an agreement on how we deal with each other on sunniforum?
Assalamu Alaykum

Ive noticed that there is some serious issues on how certain brothers behave on sunniforum (me included).

I was thinking, can we all make an agreement amongst ourselves on how we shall treat each other inshAllah?

If we can draft an agreement, including things like:

"will advise each other privately instead of publicly"

"will not post fatawa that we're unsure of" (I noticed a sister who just started practcing the deen must have got some serious confusion on this thread which was unproductive in my oppinion: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-HELPP!!/page2)

"we will not all jump on someone when we disagree with them"

"we will maintain good akhlaaq and speak to each other in a kind manner"

"we will not have bad suspicions of one another"

etc etc

If we can draft up an agreement that we will all try and stick to and everyone posts saying AGREED! or adding in a clause if you feel a clause is needed it will benefit the forum inshAllah. Its not rules, justa n agreement between brothers (I didnt see any bad manners from teh sisters ever mashAllah may Allah bless them with good in this life and the hereafter)

I think big improvements need to be made though inshAllah. Its a poor representation of islam, and many of the brothers with bad akhlaaq are supposed to be sufi and devote their time to reformation of character so lets not have so much harshness, suspicions, accusations, attacking one another, sarcasm and ridicule of people, name calling and attacking people etc.

Come on guys, inshAllah we can do better than this
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:28 PM   #2
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I wish i could, but i don't trust myself.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:29 PM   #3
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Assalamu Alaykum

Ive noticed that there is some serious issues on how certain brothers behave on sunniforum (me included).

I was thinking, can we all make an agreement amongst ourselves on how we shall treat each other inshAllah?

If we can draft an agreement, including things like:

"will advise each other privately instead of publicly"

"will not post fatawa that we're unsure of" (I noticed a sister who just started practcing the deen must have got some serious confusion on this thread which was unproductive in my oppinion: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-HELPP!!/page2)

"we will not all jump on someone when we disagree with them"

"we will maintain good akhlaaq and speak to each other in a kind manner"

"we will not have bad suspicions of one another"

etc etc

If we can draft up an agreement that we will all try and stick to and everyone posts saying AGREED! or adding in a clause if you feel a clause is needed it will benefit the forum inshAllah. Its not rules, justa n agreement between brothers (I didnt see any bad manners from teh sisters ever mashAllah may Allah bless them with good in this life and the hereafter)

I think big improvements need to be made though inshAllah. Its a poor representation of islam, and many of the brothers with bad akhlaaq are supposed to be sufi and devote their time to reformation of character so lets not have so much harshness, suspicions, accusations, attacking one another, sarcasm and ridicule of people, name calling and attacking people etc.

Come on guys, inshAllah we can do better than this
this is a beautifuuuuuuuulllll thread masha-allah. please lets do something like this...? its very much needed!
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:56 PM   #4
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Assalamu Alaykum

"will advise each other privately instead of publicly"


All points that u mentioned are really good but advising privately is the best 1. We all must try to act accordingly.

And also illetrate people like me should not debate with Scholars on Shari Masail......
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:04 PM   #5
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for your message Dawud, I fully agree brother.
May Allah purify our heart and establish a noble character in everyone of us.

Why doesn't the forum allow private messaging between brothers or between sisters after a certain amount of posts?
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:07 PM   #6
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Well who are the 'troublemakers'???
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:14 PM   #7
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Assalamu Alaykum

Ive noticed that there is some serious issues on how certain brothers behave on sunniforum (me included).

I was thinking, can we all make an agreement amongst ourselves on how we shall treat each other inshAllah?

If we can draft an agreement, including things like:

"will advise each other privately instead of publicly"

"will not post fatawa that we're unsure of" (I noticed a sister who just started practcing the deen must have got some serious confusion on this thread which was unproductive in my oppinion: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...-HELPP!!/page2)

"we will not all jump on someone when we disagree with them"

"we will maintain good akhlaaq and speak to each other in a kind manner"

"we will not have bad suspicions of one another"

etc etc

If we can draft up an agreement that we will all try and stick to and everyone posts saying AGREED! or adding in a clause if you feel a clause is needed it will benefit the forum inshAllah. Its not rules, justa n agreement between brothers (I didnt see any bad manners from teh sisters ever mashAllah may Allah bless them with good in this life and the hereafter)

I think big improvements need to be made though inshAllah. Its a poor representation of islam, and many of the brothers with bad akhlaaq are supposed to be sufi and devote their time to reformation of character so lets not have so much harshness, suspicions, accusations, attacking one another, sarcasm and ridicule of people, name calling and attacking people etc.

Come on guys, inshAllah we can do better than this
I think this is particularly important and it is made clear what can be said or asked, what subjects are off limits, to me from where I am coming from there is no subject that cant be talked about but even some muslims here who give their opinion cause offence and there are calls from others for them to be banned. It gets very repetitive being called an islamaphobe or people insinuating that I am.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:25 AM   #8
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I was unaware that there was a private message system. How do you do it? I can't even access mine or others profiles.
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:35 AM   #9
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Well who are the 'troublemakers'???
now is clear isnt it ...
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:41 AM   #10
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I was unaware that there was a private message system. How do you do it? I can't even access mine or others profiles.
Same here
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Old 09-22-2011, 12:48 AM   #11
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agree but also nothing wrong with passionate discussion as long it's a discussion backed by FACTS not emotional shrieking.

let's see who is the first to have a rant.....
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:51 AM   #12
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i would like to add 2 things...

1. this is an islamic forum and the majority of members are muslim. any non-muslim is a guest here and should be expected to behave as a guest should by NOT saying anything against Allah, His Prophet and islam. if any non-muslim goes against this then they should not cry foul and get offended if they get abused. non-muslims do not understand this but we have more love for Allah, His Prophet and islam than our ownselves and even our own mothers (inshallah), so when a non-muslim says anything against the aforementioned then in the least WE WILL TAKE OFFENCE.

2. this is a discussion forum..... not your personal blog. if you post your opinion then do not be surprised and get offended if someone disagrees with your opinion and comments against it. other people have opinions as well and they may be complete contrary to yours. if you cannot accept this then post your opinions on a blog where you can control the comments.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:22 AM   #13
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As Salaamu Alaykum

I don't think it its good idea to enable private messaging. Even between brothers and brothers, sisters to sisters.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:33 AM   #14
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i would like to add 2 things...

1. this is an islamic forum and the majority of members are muslim. any non-muslim is a guest here and should be expected to behave as a guest should by NOT saying anything against Allah, His Prophet and islam. if any non-muslim goes against this then they should not cry foul and get offended if they get abused. non-muslims do not understand this but we have more love for Allah, His Prophet and islam than our ownselves and even our own mothers (inshallah), so when a non-muslim says anything against the aforementioned then in the least WE WILL TAKE OFFENCE.

2. this is a discussion forum..... not your personal blog. if you post your opinion then do not be surprised and get offended if someone disagrees with your opinion and comments against it. other people have opinions as well and they may be complete contrary to yours. if you cannot accept this then post your opinions on a blog where you can control the comments.


you said it there brother. we actually agree on something!

to add to your point though, non muslim guests who are here to learn with humility should be treated as our guests. it's those that shove their view of the world down our throats in a really coarse manner and expect nicey nicey treatment from everyone which is an insult.

to top it off they even demand muslim members who don't agree with their view of Islamic subjects, get banned!.

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Old 09-22-2011, 03:15 AM   #15
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Personal insults are not part of any discussion and when one person is singled out for abuse over and over again, and i say it again, very personal abuse than any request to have moderators step in and make warnings should be welcomed by all. There are a lot of very different people here, different muslims even and only a handful got personally offensive, so that says it all about the type of person they are. I have only ever taken offence to personal comments, not people opinions on their faith. A very big difference.
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:18 AM   #16
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i would like to add 2 things...

1. this is an islamic forum and the majority of members are muslim. any non-muslim is a guest here and should be expected to behave as a guest should by NOT saying anything against Allah, His Prophet and islam. if any non-muslim goes against this then they should not cry foul and get offended if they get abused. non-muslims do not understand this but we have more love for Allah, His Prophet and islam than our ownselves and even our own mothers (inshallah), so when a non-muslim says anything against the aforementioned then in the least WE WILL TAKE OFFENCE.

2. this is a discussion forum..... not your personal blog. if you post your opinion then do not be surprised and get offended if someone disagrees with your opinion and comments against it. other people have opinions as well and they may be complete contrary to yours. if you cannot accept this then post your opinions on a blog where you can control the comments.
As I said in my post just before this, when personal attacks are used, that is when i take offence.

I completely understand Muslims love of God and their Prophet and admire their faith. I never took offence to people defence of it. I have no problem is someone complaining about what I say or challenging me as long as they dont get personal. Hugely personal.

What about muslims here who post controversial replies?
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Old 09-22-2011, 08:49 AM   #17
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As Salaamu Alaykum

I don't think it its good idea to enable private messaging. Even between brothers and brothers, sisters to sisters.
Then we shall address everything in the open
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Old 09-22-2011, 03:20 PM   #18
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Personal insults are not part of any discussion and when one person is singled out for abuse over and over again, and i say it again, very personal abuse than any request to have moderators step in and make warnings should be welcomed by all. There are a lot of very different people here, different muslims even and only a handful got personally offensive, so that says it all about the type of person they are. I have only ever taken offence to personal comments, not people opinions on their faith. A very big difference.
Hi, do you believe that islamic belief is utmost personal for muslims?
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Old 09-22-2011, 04:49 PM   #19
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Hi, do you believe that islamic belief is utmost personal for muslims?
Probably for most, yes. Having said that though, I dont deserve to be bullied on a public forum for asking questions and saying if I dont agree or not with the reply.
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Old 09-22-2011, 05:12 PM   #20
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... I dont deserve to be bullied on a public forum for asking questions ...
Indeed you do not deserve to be bullied sister.
And you can help in that.
Make your queries as impersonal, devoid of emotions, judgments and assertions.
Islamic values do not match completely with the values that you have inherited. If you can take little bit of care in avoiding any clash between your values and that are held by Ahl-e-Sunnah then your learning process can be very speedy. If you look at this thread, for example, you'll see the ground that has been covered there is very large just in front of our eyes.
Take Care.
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