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Old 09-21-2011, 03:16 PM   #1
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Default Situation of indian muslims
About The Muslim community in India :

The Muslim community in India is passing through great churning and transition. Their profile, specially in the areas of their security and their status in sectors of economy and education is low. They constitute 12% of the total Indian population. Their demographic spread covers almost every state and union territory. In certain areas they constitute majority like in Lancadive Minicoy (94.31%), in Jammu & Kashmir (67.13%). Three states in North India viz. Uttar Pradesh (23.73%), West Bangal (15.21%) and Bihar (12.58%) accommodate 52.13% of the Muslim population. Four southern states Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu account for 19.6% of the total Muslim population. However, their share in spheres of economy and education is far below than normal. There is dearth of official data, but in the light of some surveys and commission reports, it is established that Muslims are one of the most backward and marginalised communities of India as they do not figure more than 3-4 percent in any of the economic sectors. According to Gopal Singh Commission report of 1980 the Muslim representation is far below than the required like 3.27% in IAS, 2.7% in IPS, 3.37% in IFS, 1.56% in Central subordinate services. There are many other surveys, which reflect the same proportions
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Old 09-21-2011, 03:34 PM   #2
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sad situation for muslim in India indeed..... what do you think why are they so backward brother? has it to do with the system or their own lack of luck?



may Allah guide us all
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Old 09-21-2011, 03:46 PM   #3
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more to do with the mushrikeen who try their best to discriminate against us in everyway possible. The situation in southern india is better than the north as southern indians are generally more tolerent.
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Old 09-21-2011, 05:16 PM   #4
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more to do with the mushrikeen who try their best to discriminate against us in everyway possible. The situation in southern india is better than the north as southern indians are generally more tolerent.
ASWW
We have had a huge influx of these Indians here in Africa and My Allah what a bunch of hooligans. If these are the same muslims suffering in India then I have less people to blame. No regard for law and for the locals. Gutter language and dressing and attitude like the kuffar even worse. They do not listen to anyone and have a serious dont care attitude. The locals are really frustrated with them.
Casinos are full of them and corruption is on the increase.
I am made to believe their Indian relatives in India who "wait" for money from them sit idle ly sitting and sleeping days on end with no goals in life.
"Send us the money,, we dont care what it is ... Zakat, Lillah, sadaqah... bring it on..."!!!
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Old 09-21-2011, 09:52 PM   #5
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more to do with the mushrikeen who try their best to discriminate against us in everyway possible. The situation in southern india is better than the north as southern indians are generally more tolerent.


I would rather say "Lack of Hard Work"
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:13 PM   #6
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About The Muslim community in India :

The Muslim community in India is passing through great churning and transition. Their profile, specially in the areas of their security and their status in sectors of economy and education is low. They constitute 12% of the total Indian population. Their demographic spread covers almost every state and union territory. In certain areas they constitute majority like in Lancadive Minicoy (94.31%), in Jammu & Kashmir (67.13%). Three states in North India viz. Uttar Pradesh (23.73%), West Bangal (15.21%) and Bihar (12.58%) accommodate 52.13% of the Muslim population. Four southern states Andhra Pradesh, Kerala, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu account for 19.6% of the total Muslim population. However, their share in spheres of economy and education is far below than normal. There is dearth of official data, but in the light of some surveys and commission reports, it is established that Muslims are one of the most backward and marginalised communities of India as they do not figure more than 3-4 percent in any of the economic sectors. According to Gopal Singh Commission report of 1980 the Muslim representation is far below than the required like 3.27% in IAS, 2.7% in IPS, 3.37% in IFS, 1.56% in Central subordinate services. There are many other surveys, which reflect the same proportions
Bro,
these stats are more than 5 yrs old as this article was written in jan 2006
and report by Mr.Gopal singh is from 1980
Am sure things have changed for better since then and requires reanalysis...
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #7
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We have had a huge influx of these Indians here in Africa and My Allah what a bunch of hooligans. If these are the same muslims suffering in India then I have less people to blame. No regard for law and for the locals. Gutter language and dressing and attitude like the kuffar even worse. They do not listen to anyone and have a serious dont care attitude. The locals are really frustrated with them.
Casinos are full of them and corruption is on the increase.
I am made to believe their Indian relatives in India who "wait" for money from them sit idle ly sitting and sleeping days on end with no goals in life.
"Send us the money,, we dont care what it is ... Zakat, Lillah, sadaqah... bring it on..."!!!
I report this as an offensive post.
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Old 09-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #8
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i have no idea about the other parts of india but the muslims in gujarat just wait for hand outs from relatives living abroad and have no desire to better themselves or work, and the only aim the youngsters have is to marry someone from abroad so they can get a visa and get out of the village. they are a nasty bunch and i have no sympathy for them at all.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:26 PM   #9
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i have no idea about the other parts of india but the muslims in gujarat just wait for hand outs from relatives living abroad and have no desire to better themselves or work, and the only aim the youngsters have is to marry someone from abroad so they can get a visa and get out of the village. they are a nasty bunch and i have no sympathy for them at all.
Irresponsible post and Thread.
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Old 09-21-2011, 11:46 PM   #10
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i have no idea about the other parts of india but the muslims in gujarat just wait for hand outs from relatives living abroad and have no desire to better themselves or work, and the only aim the youngsters have is to marry someone from abroad so they can get a visa and get out of the village. they are a nasty bunch and i have no sympathy for them at all.


Even if in Gujarath, just a minority people doesn't represent all of them...
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:00 AM   #11
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Irresponsible post and Thread.
then rather than not replying to my salaam and writing one line of rubbish why dont you first reply to my salaam and explain why you think my post was irresponsible! : colon blah blah : : parenthesis blah blah :
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:02 AM   #12
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Even if in Gujarath, just a minority people doesn't represent all of them...


that is true..... but i can only write what i see in the villages near our end and the people that migrate from there. from what i have seen of them my comment holds true.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:12 AM   #13
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:15 AM   #14
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i have no idea about the other parts of india but the muslims in gujarat just wait for hand outs from relatives living abroad and have no desire to better themselves or work, and the only aim the youngsters have is to marry someone from abroad so they can get a visa and get out of the village. they are a nasty bunch and i have no sympathy for them at all.

That is certainly not true of the vast majority of Gujarati Muslims.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:30 AM   #15
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That is certainly not true of the vast majority of Gujarati Muslims.
it is from our end of gujrat. go to any village there and you will see young people loafing about and wasting time.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:35 AM   #16
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it is from our end of gujrat. go to any village there and you will see young people loafing about and wasting time.
why every time ur view is against gujarat?
dr.abu tamim visited that part of gujarat
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:41 AM   #17
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it is from our end of gujrat. go to any village there and you will see young people loafing about and wasting time.


I would say to a certain Degree even Young Muslim guys in Bangladesh especially in the Sylhet district (by the town area) are of similar nature, they dress as if they are "londoners" and hang about to see if they find potential spouses from abroad.

I remmeber the days wheni was young and i went BD where it was easy to spot a londer because of their dress - now Subhan-Allah it's hard to tell who is the londoner and who is the freshy.

As for the money thing - then it is the same situation in BD many families in BD await some money from their Relatvies from abroad (whetherit is from Saudi / UK/ America etc) - they act like they are knigs - i mean why not just give them money to start up something - like a good business or even make some of them study so they can become responsible people and earn a good living.

This is what we have done - my family never sent money (other than giving Zakat money / Fitr Money) for families to generally spend upon - rather our close relatives we have given money to start up businesses - even some for studying.

Gujarat or not, the situation in BD is defo like this.

When you spoon feed them that is the mistake.

Really Bad.
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Old 09-22-2011, 01:50 AM   #18
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My only request, before commenting upon muslims in India visit india first and see the positions of muslims in india live...
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:01 AM   #19
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why every time ur view is against gujarat?
dr.abu tamim visited that part of gujarat
sorry brother i think this is the first time i am commenting against the people in gujrat. im sure in some other places the situation is similar but i cannot comment about them as i have no knowledge about them. i know about gujrat because i am from gujrat and visited there 3 times........and of course even though we live in UK we know very well what is happening in gujrat as we keep very close family ties and are very much involved in the affairs of our home village.
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Old 09-22-2011, 02:03 AM   #20
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My only request, before commenting upon muslims in India visit india first and see the positions of muslims in india live...
i have been there 3 times bro. but like i said above....UK gujratis have very close family ties with indian gujratis and even though we dont live in gujrat anymore we are still very much involved with the affairs over there so we know the situation.
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