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Old 08-24-2011, 02:46 PM   #1
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Default 3rd battle of Panipat:Abdali crushes Marathas forever.


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Old 08-24-2011, 02:55 PM   #2
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I, for one, have been licking my wounds since yesterday after reading about Arab-Israel war 0f 1967.
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Old 08-24-2011, 03:06 PM   #3
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I, for one, have been licking my wounds since yesterday after reading about Arab-Israel war 0f 1967.
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Then you should read about the Arab Israel war of 1973, also called the Yom Kippur or Ramadan War.
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Old 08-26-2011, 01:14 AM   #4
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By the way Abdali defeated the Marathas EIGHT times in total.
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Old 08-26-2011, 12:02 PM   #5
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By the way Abdali defeated the Marathas EIGHT times in total.

Because of Abdali's repeated forays through Punjab where the usual routine of old time wars was repeated there is a saying there: (~)What ever you eat or drink is yours and the rest belongs to Abdali.
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Old 08-26-2011, 03:01 PM   #6
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Because of Abdali's repeated forays through Punjab where the usual routine of old time wars was repeated there is a saying there: (~)What ever you eat or drink is yours and the rest belongs to Abdali.
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Sounds good.
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Old 08-27-2011, 12:32 PM   #7
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Ahmad Shah Abdali, later known as Ahmad Shah Durrani, was the founder of modern Afghanistan. Before being elected king in 1747, Abdali was a cavalry general under the Persian emperor Nadir Shah. After Nadir Shah's assassination, he captured a caravan with booty coming from India, this provided him the financial backing he needed to become king. During his reign, he built a vast empire that extended from eastern Persia (Iran) to northern India, and from the Amu Darya to the Indian Ocean. Abdali was also a brilliant Pashto poet. He died in 1772, possibly as a result of skin cancer. Afghans refer to him as Ahmad Shah Baba (Ahmad Shah, the father).
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:09 PM   #8
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I dunno... the article feels a bit lacking? Like, how many men, what weapons. I heard Abdali used cannons mounted on camels to help in the close range fighting, shooting over the heads of his troops.

And what happened after that? Did he go into Delhi? What did he say to the Emperor? What did the ulema say about him?
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:48 PM   #9
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I dunno... the article feels a bit lacking? Like, how many men, what weapons. I heard Abdali used cannons mounted on camels to help in the close range fighting, shooting over the heads of his troops.

And what happened after that? Did he go into Delhi? What did he say to the Emperor? What did the ulema say about him?
That would be a very long article indeed. But if you wish, I will go on adding material to the thread.
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Old 08-27-2011, 01:58 PM   #10
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The Matathas were obviously Hindus. Bur did Abdali fight any Muslims? History is full of cases in which one king fights and kills thousands of Muslims for "power" and "wealth". Is he one of those ?
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Old 08-27-2011, 02:49 PM   #11
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I dunno... the article feels a bit lacking? Like, how many men, what weapons. I heard Abdali used cannons mounted on camels to help in the close range fighting, shooting over the heads of his troops.

And what happened after that? Did he go into Delhi? What did he say to the Emperor? What did the ulema say about him?
The India of Shah Waliullah was in an advanced stage of social and political disintegration. There was chaos in the court of Delhi. After Nadir Shah ransacked Delhi (1739) and withdrew, the Moghul Emperor Mohammed Shah tried to hold the empire together. Muhammed Shah died in 1748, and his son Ahmed Shah (1748-1754) became the Emperor. Ahmed Shah appointed Safdar Jung as his grand vizier, but Safdar was more interested in settling scores with his personal enemies than in the administration of the state. The Emperor then favored Ghaziuddin, a grandson of Nizam ul Mulk, the Subedar of Deccan. Safdar Jung rebelled. Ghaziuddin forged an alliance with the Marathas in Poona, and marched north to Delhi with a contingent of 20,000 Maratha cavalry. Safdar Jung was defeated, but now real power in Delhi had passed on to the Marathas. When Ahmed Shah died in 1754, Alamgir II ascended the throne. He was a mere puppet in the hands of the Marathas who continued their relentless advance in the Punjab. With central Punjab under their control, the Marathas became the dominant power in the subcontinent, except for the territories controlled by the British and the armed state of Mysore under Hyder Ali and his son Tippu. Ghaziuddin himself killed Alamgir II in 1759, and the disintegration of the Empire accelerated.

It is against this background of chaos that one has to look at the life and work of Shah Waliullah of Delhi. In 1758, the Maratha armies occupied Lahore and evicted Timur, son of Ahmed Shah Abdali of Kabul. The Punjab is where the vast Islamic world meets up with the subcontinental Hindu culture. At this juncture, Shah Waliullah of Delhi wrote to Ahmed Shah Abdali, inviting him to enter Punjab and stop the Marathas. Three years later, in 1761, Ahmed Shah crossed the Indus and took Lahore. A large Maratha army advanced from Delhi and met him on the plains of Panipat. The decisive battle, commonly known as the Third Battle of Panipat, was fought on June 14, 1761. In the desperate clash of arms, over 150,000 Indian soldiers perished, and the Afghans were victorious.

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Three years later, in 1761, Ahmed Shah crossed the Indus and took Lahore. A large Maratha army advanced from Delhi and met him on the plains of Panipat. The decisive battle, commonly known as the Third Battle of Panipat, was fought on June 14, 1761. In the desperate clash of arms, over 150,000 Indian soldiers perished, and the Afghans were victorious.

http://historyofislam.com/contents/r...llah-of-delhi/

Maripat records appreciation.
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:34 AM   #13
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Maripat records appreciation.
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Hope it pulled you out of your depression.
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Old 08-28-2011, 01:28 PM   #14
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Hope it pulled you out of your depression.
Oh no! It was more of anger. I am counting down the days of Zion.
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:18 PM   #15
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Oh no! It was more of anger. I am counting down the days of Zion.
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Aameen. That day is not far off.
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Old 08-28-2011, 04:30 PM   #16
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Salam

ahmad shah abdali was an alim himself and the ulema thought highly of him as compared to other rulers.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:09 PM   #17
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Salam

ahmad shah abdali was an alim himself and the ulema thought highly of him as compared to other rulers.

He was?
I thought that was Mahmud of Ghazna.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:43 PM   #18
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Now the historical background is more complete. It's hard for outsiders to appreciate the significance of the battle without knowing the background and the aftermath.

Why didn't Abdali himself establish a new dynasty in Delhi? I think most Muslims would have wanted it.
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Old 08-29-2011, 01:46 PM   #19
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Aameen. That day is not far off.
Insha Allah.

On a different note can you please find time to dissect this article.
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Old 08-29-2011, 03:36 PM   #20
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Oh no! It was more of anger. I am counting down the days of Zion.
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yes brother INSHALLAH , the end of zion and its allies is near , there will be Islamic Caliphate in the whole world very soon INSHALLAH ,
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