[Niobaralegra]

http://drabutamim.blogspot.com/2011/...u-alaykum.html

[w3QHxwNb]

If tomorrow, the TJ is banned and declared as a terrorist outfit (which will never happen), would people stop going into Tabligh and avoid them just like our poor Terrorists are avoided?

[Fainnamoony]

Although Tablighi Jamaa'at is apolitical and does not involve itself in terrorist activities - which is definitely a good thing - one cannot deny the fact that terrorists can easily infiltrate into this Jamaa'at, easily become ameers and brainwash young people who don't know better.

[saumemeva]

Although Tablighi Jamaa'at is apolitical and does not involve itself in terrorist activities - which is definitely a good thing - one cannot deny the fact that terrorists can easily infiltrate into this Jamaa'at, easily become ameers and brainwash young people who don't know better.

And they could easily do the same within the Salafi group (they already have, in fact), within any Sufi group, etc.

[Niobaralegra]

Although Tablighi Jamaa'at is apolitical and does not involve itself in terrorist activities - which is definitely a good thing - one cannot deny the fact that terrorists can easily infiltrate into this Jamaa'at, easily become ameers and brainwash young people who don't know better.

Who are the real terrorists?

[Fainnamoony]

Who are the real terrorists?

The Khawaarij of this age

[Niobaralegra]

The Khawaarij of this age

You mean that those who starved 5 lakh Muslim kids to death in Iraq were not terrorists?

[Fainnamoony]

You mean that those who starved 5 lakh Muslim kids to death in Iraq were not terrorists?

Yes, but they are not the "enemy within", which is the topic of this thread.

[Fainnamoony]

Rasoolullaah forewarned us about today's modern terrorists when he said:


من خرج من الطاعة وفارق الجماعة فمات مات ميتة جاهلية ومن خرج على أمتي يضرب برها وفاجرها لا يتحاشى من مؤمنها ولا يفي لذي عهدها فليس مني ومن قاتل تحت راية عمية يدعو إلى عصبية أو يغضب لعصبية فقتل فقتلة جاهلية


Whoever parts from obedience, and splits away from the Jama’ah and dies, then he has died a death of Jahiliyyah. Whoever rebels against my Ummah, killing good and evil people alike, and does not try to avoid killing the believers, and does not pay attention to those who are under a covenant, then he is not of me. Whoever fights for a cause that is not clear, advocating tribalism getting angry for the sake of tribalism, and he is killed, then he has died a death of Jahiliyyah. [Sunan Nasai: Kitab Tahreemu ad-Dam]

This Hadeeth describes perfectly the terrorists and khawaarij of this time. They target both good and evil people. They don't discriminate, they kill everyone, even innocent bystanders just to get to their target. Secondly, they kill disbelievers who are under a covenant - who have treaties with the Muslim governments, and therefore it is haraam to kill them. They advocate causes that are not clear, mixing evil ideologies of nationalism and tribalism with Islaam and Jihaad. Wanting to liberate Muslim countries from foreign occupations, Jihaad in essence, but mixing such causes with nationalism and tribalism. Perfect examples today include Palestine, Libya, Kashmir, Iraq, and Afghanistan.

According to Rasoolullaah all these people who are fighting such causes and using such evil tactics in the name of Islaam are actually dying the death of Jaahiliyyah.

[Niobaralegra]

@ bro A Qadir.
Surprising though it may seem, I do not accept that there is anything such as Muslim or Islamic terrorism in the world today.

[Fainnamoony]

@ bro A Qadir.
Surprising though it may seem, I do not accept that there is anything such as Muslim or Islamic terrorism in the world today.

Islamic terrorism is an oxymoron. But you cannot deny the fact that there are many misguided Muslims who participating in terrorism and hijacking the name of islaam. The Hadeeth I posted above is clear indication of it.

[Bill-Watson]

....bro abdul qadir do you think lashkar e taiba, jamaat ud dawa are terrorists...

[Niobaralegra]

Islamic terrorism is an oxymoron. But you cannot deny the fact that there are many misguided Muslims who participating in terrorism and hijacking the name of islaam. The Hadeeth I posted above is clear indication of it.

I don't know any Muslim in the world who comes under that hadith right now.

[Fainnamoony]

....bro abdul qadir do you think lashkar e taiba, jamaat ud dawa are terrorists...

I don't think they are terrorists, because they don't kill Muslims, and they are fighting the indian army. Unlike Tehreek e Taliban, who are fighting against Pakistan, and are killing innocent Muslims.

However, I don't agree with Jamaa'at ud Dawa/Lashkar i Tayyabah, because they are not fighting for Tawheed, but for the liberation of a piece of land. Therefore, it cannot be considered as Jihaad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHQnhmz4w2g

[Niobaralegra]

However, I don't agree with Jamaa'at ud Dawa/Lashkar i Tayyabah, because they are not fighting for Tawheed, but for the liberation of a piece of land. Therefore, it cannot be considered as Jihaad:

[Niobaralegra]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cultures/n...739845&ref=rss

[GogaMegaPis]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/cultures/n...739845&ref=rss

Salam alikum,

may be they just say that veil in form of burqa is cultural, but veiling women is right acc. to islam?

[Niobaralegra]

Salam alikum,

may be they just say that veil in form of burqa is cultural, but veiling women is right acc. to islam?

No. That is not what they are saying. They hate the veil.

[GogaMegaPis]

No. That is not what they are saying. They hate the veil.

Then it is very sad, my heart is crying. I dont wear veil but I wish in future and love very much all my sisters wearing it.

[Niobaralegra]

Then it is very sad, my heart is crying. I dont wear veil but I wish in future and love very much all my sisters wearing it.

Same old story with these people...the enemy within....