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07-06-2011, 04:16 PM | #1 |
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My question might be better put as "do Muslims typically read parts of the Bible"?
In the Old Testament, the Torah has much corruption and I think it's mostly replaced by the Quran. Many of the other books are Jewish history or prophecy which is not particularly relevant. But what about the Psalms? It has been a while since I have read them but I think many of them would still be relevant to Muslims. It seems to me that of all the books in the Bible, the Psalms are the book that is least corrupted and most relevant to Muslims. Thoughts? |
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07-06-2011, 04:20 PM | #3 |
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07-06-2011, 06:06 PM | #4 |
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In the words of Imam Ali (as):
"Do not mind the speaker - but mind what he is saying." I think everybody should read whatever they can get their hands on - what is good and beneficial take it - else leave it. Knowledge from any source is good - their are some really wonderful and spiritually thought provoking saying in the bible - especially psalm.. my four cents worth ... |
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07-06-2011, 06:16 PM | #5 |
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I remember when going into student accommodations and finding a Bible left behind by the Gideons missionaries. I had a Qur'an with Translation by Yusuf Ali at the time, and Yusuf Ali's translation had loads of commentary and he sometimes referred to passages in the Bible... so I sometimes made use of that Bible to see what he was referring to... |
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07-06-2011, 06:25 PM | #6 |
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07-06-2011, 06:35 PM | #7 |
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My question might be better put as "do Muslims typically read parts of the Bible"? |
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07-06-2011, 08:51 PM | #8 |
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Yeah why not?
And by the way, if youre debating christians or jews or whatever, ofcourse you HAVE to use their books, otherwise you cant really prove to them that their book is wrong.. I dont think itll cause doubts in your hearts at all :S especially if you can clearly see where it is wrong and scientifically incorrect and contradictory to itself |
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07-06-2011, 10:01 PM | #9 |
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07-06-2011, 10:52 PM | #10 |
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I would love to have a Qur'an like that. (I like Yusuf Ali's translations best also.) What is the publishing information, or where can I find a copy of the one you have with the Bible references included? (M.M.Khan Sahab was present on SF. I do not hold much against their translation.) I do not know whether you can manage it via Amazon. |
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07-06-2011, 10:55 PM | #11 |
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07-06-2011, 11:55 PM | #12 |
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Personally, I found Yusuf Ali's references to Bible passages useful... but that's mainly because my knowledge of stories of Bani Isra'il is quite patchy. For example, I knew Musa and his folk stopped at the Mountain, and he went up, and when he came down, found the people worshiping the golden calf.
I knew from another story that the Bani Israil wanted to see God and were nearly destroyed... I didn't know that the incidents were actually close together. From Yusuf Ali and the Bible I pieced together: Bani Israil wanted to see Allah, and He manifested some Power and showed it (the people became VERY AFRAID), and maintained it like a cloud on the mountain. Musa (as) went up, and while away, the people went astray and worshiped the Golden Calf, even though they had seen the Power of God and it was still manifest over them... The Qur'an does not tell the story in a single go, but in bits over here and there, for reasons best known to Allah. |
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07-07-2011, 04:58 AM | #13 |
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I took a Bible as Literature class for my degree. I found it very useful. Nice to know how scholars break down the Bible into parts: Mythological, Historical, Poetic, and Prophetic. Mythological was stuff like Genesis-Deut.; Historical was stuff like 1 and 2 Samuel, Kings; the Poetic was from Job to the Song of Solomon. Prophetic was stuff like Isaiah and Jeremiah. Overall, I liked the class...and it was an easy A that I got over the course of like 2 weeks. Winter classes rule My favorite parts were Psalms and Song of Solomon. |
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07-07-2011, 06:41 AM | #14 |
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07-07-2011, 07:21 AM | #15 |
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I don't think I have ever heard a Muslim say that he likes Song of Solomon before. Certainly, as an allegory, it is beautiful. Taken literally, it is quite racy. Yeah, it can be racy if taken literally, but of course it's not really meant to be taken literally (although it is fun to read it that way ); most Biblical authorities take it as an allegory of one's relationship with Allah (ie the lover and the loved), similar to sufi poetry you find. |
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07-07-2011, 10:44 AM | #16 |
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My question might be better put as "do Muslims typically read parts of the Bible"? I am a Christian revert who has read and studied the Bible. It contains most of the Prophets from the Quran with their stories told in a narrative fashion but with some differences. There are many parallels. The Psalms, which are accepted by the Quran, are some of the best spiritual poetry in the world, and have been used as prayers by the Church. Deuteronomy 6:4 contains the Jewish Shema: "Hear O Israel, thy God is but One Lord," which Jesus quotes in Mark 12:29. I would suggest that every Muslim ought to be familiar with the Bible just as every Christian ought to be familiar with the Quran. That's may nickel's worth. Wassalam P.S. I always find it odd when Muslim scholars who say the Bible is corrupt then try to prove that the Bible predicts our Prophet (PBUH), using Bible verses for authority! |
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07-07-2011, 10:52 AM | #17 |
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The breakdown of the Bible that you describe is, of course, the secular view. The "Bible as Literature" professor at my university was an atheist! Wassalam |
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07-07-2011, 11:01 AM | #18 |
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Seek Guidance from the Quran and Hadith only:
Some Muslims I know read the Bible and try to find guidance in it. Is such behavior permissible? Please explain? Answer 389 Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) replied to a similar question by some of his Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum), 'Do you doubt (in your religion) just as the Christians and Jews doubted in their religion (during the time of their Prophets).' He(Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) further mentioned, 'Even if Musa (Alayhis salaam) was alive today, he would have followed me.' If Musa (Alayhis salaam) would not seek guidance from the Tawraat (old testament) and Eesa (Alayhis salaam) will follow the Qur'aan upon his arrival on earth, how then can one we follow the scriptures of Musa and Eesa (Alayhis salaam). They themselves regard the Qur'aan and Ahaadith as their superguide despite being the direct recipients of revelation of the Tawraat and Injeel. It is not permissible for Muslims to seek any guidance from non-Muslim sources. The Qur'aan and Ahaadith is their only and best source of guidance. and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best Mufti Ebrahim Desai |
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07-07-2011, 11:10 AM | #19 |
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Assalam alaylum, The reason is quite obvious. A Christian does not care whether we Muslims believe the Bible to be corrupt because he has faith that it isn't, regardless of how much irrefutable evidence we present to the contrary. But, if a Christian does have faith in the Bible, then he has to accept the verses that refer to the Prophet Muhammad عليه الصلاة والسلام and إنشاء الله showing how the Bible points towards Islam will lead towards more questioning of the viewpoint held by many Christians about the divinity of 'Eesa عليه السلام and other strange beliefs that form the core of Christian belief but are never explicitly mentioned within the Gospels. |
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07-07-2011, 11:17 AM | #20 |
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But still is a bit of contradiction from our side to try to find "proofs" from a book which we deem having been altered, isn't it? |
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