[amehoubFomo]

All Muslims are warned that the Qadiyanis (so called Ahmadiyya) are not Muslims. They are misguiding people through the internet, T.V, literature and advertisements. The Qadiyanis deceive Muslims with words such as peace, loyalty, freedom, respect, and love.

The Qadiyanis are followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani (1840-1908). Mirza Qadiyani has claimed to be a Nabi, a Rasool and Muhammad (Sallalahualayhiwasalam) himself! Aside from that he has claimed to be God, Imam Mahdi, Maryam and Isa ibn Maryam. He had enmity and hatred for Isa (Alayhiwasalam) as he repeatedly insulted him. He also abused other prophets including Muhammad (Sallalahualayiwasalam) and his companions (Ridhwanullahi Ajmaeen). He has sworn at the ulama who are the inheritors of the prophets. Mirza Qadiyani has made false accusations towards Allah (Subhaanawata’ala) and his Rasool (Sallalahualayhiwasalam).

It is because of the aforementioned reasons that:
1. The scholars have called them Kaafir and out the fold of Islam.
2. The Muslim World League in 1974 in Makkah Mukaramah declared them Kaafir.
3. The Pakistani Parliament declared them as a non-Muslim minority in 1974. Many institutions and courts have also declared them to be Kaafir.
4. Indonesia, Malaysia and Gambia have taken action against some of their activities.

The Qadiyanis have started to advertise on buses and distributing leaflets with the slogans peace, loyalty, freedom, respect, and love and have launched a website (CLIP). But how can they be peaceful when they don’t condemn the acts of Mirza Qadiyani? How can they claim to be loyal when they abandoned the final messenger (Sallalahualayhiwasalam) of Allah (Subhaanawata’ala)? How can they support freedom when they do not allow their followers to question the acts of Mirza Qadiyani? How can they have respect when they follow a man who has insulted and claimed to be previous prophets? How can they claim to love all when they follow a man who hated Rasoolullah (Sallalahualayhiwasalam)? They are not peaceful and have no respect because they blind follow a man who was very abusive, offensive and blasphemous against Allah (Subhaanawata’ala), his Rasool (Sallalahualayiwasalam) and Islam. Instead they are the ones who are causing hatred and disunity.

Beware of their literature, adverts, MTA TV channel (787) and websites such as CLIP and many others. Educate yourself on this issue and warn all your friends and family. If you already follow Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani then please research the history and find out the reality of Qadiyanism.

Please make copies and distribute, also display on Masjid notice boards.
For further information and references please use our website or contact us below:
www.khatmenubuwwat.org

KHATME NUBUWWAT ACADEMY
387 KATHERINE ROAD FOREST GATE
LONDON E7 8LT UNITED KINGDOM
PHONE: 020 8471 4434
MOBILE: 0798 486 4668, 0795 803 3404
EMAIL: khatmenubuwwat@hotmail.com

[amehoubFomo]

I have posted the previous thread in response to the QADIYANIS latest attempt to fool the masses. They have started in January 2010 advertising on buses(in London a hundred in other cities an average of about 10), and distributing 3million leaflets door to door. We as Muslims need to protect Rasoolullah's (sallahualayhiwasalam) honour. I request all Muslims to print this off and warn everyone about this big fitna!

[delnisfernan]

the qadyanis advertsing campaign insults islam. they r basically saying that peace freedom loyalty ect are all non muslim values but look we muslims can ben the same too.

[amehoubFomo]

THE QADIYANIS HAVE STARTED A NEW TRICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They have launched a website called CLIP
The reals muslims website is www.khatmenubuwwat.org
these zaalims have used this to trick muslims to think that they are khatme nubuwwat whereas they are in fact qadiyanis!!

[NutChusty]

Fishy.

Why are you promoting their websites then? You don't need to mention them at all.

[amehoubFomo]

to al-kankohi
Brother the reason i am mentioning them is that when some one wishs to find out about khatmenubuwwat then originally they would have went to khatmenubuwwat.org(which is a muslim website) but instead they may be directed to the same as .com which is in fact a qadiyani website and a quick glance may fool one in to thinking that it is muslim. Jazakallah

[RokgroofeTeme]

All Muslims are warned that the Qadiyanis (so called Ahmadiyya) are not Muslims. They are misguiding people through the internet, T.V, literature and advertisements. The Qadiyanis deceive Muslims with words such as peace, loyalty, freedom, respect, and love.

The Qadiyanis are followers of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani (1840-1908). Mirza Qadiyani has claimed to be a Nabi, a Rasool and Muhammad (Sallalahualayhiwasalam) himself! Aside from that he has claimed to be God, Imam Mahdi, Maryam and Isa ibn Maryam. He had enmity and hatred for Isa (Alayhiwasalam) as he repeatedly insulted him. He also abused other prophets including Muhammad (Sallalahualayiwasalam) and his companions (Ridhwanullahi Ajmaeen). He has sworn at the ulama who are the inheritors of the prophets. Mirza Qadiyani has made false accusations towards Allah (Subhaanawata’ala) and his Rasool (Sallalahualayhiwasalam).

It is because of the aforementioned reasons that:
1. The scholars have called them Kaafir and out the fold of Islam.
2. The Muslim World League in 1974 in Makkah Mukaramah declared them Kaafir.
3. The Pakistani Parliament declared them as a non-Muslim minority in 1974. Many institutions and courts have also declared them to be Kaafir.
4. Indonesia, Malaysia and Gambia have taken action against some of their activities.

The Qadiyanis have started to advertise on buses and distributing leaflets with the slogans peace, loyalty, freedom, respect, and love and have launched a website (CLIP). But how can they be peaceful when they don’t condemn the acts of Mirza Qadiyani? How can they claim to be loyal when they abandoned the final messenger (Sallalahualayhiwasalam) of Allah (Subhaanawata’ala)? How can they support freedom when they do not allow their followers to question the acts of Mirza Qadiyani? How can they have respect when they follow a man who has insulted and claimed to be previous prophets? How can they claim to love all when they follow a man who hated Rasoolullah (Sallalahualayhiwasalam)? They are not peaceful and have no respect because they blind follow a man who was very abusive, offensive and blasphemous against Allah (Subhaanawata’ala), his Rasool (Sallalahualayiwasalam) and Islam. Instead they are the ones who are causing hatred and disunity.

Beware of their literature, adverts, MTA TV channel (787) and websites such as CLIP and many others. Educate yourself on this issue and warn all your friends and family. If you already follow Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani then please research the history and find out the reality of Qadiyanism.

Please make copies and distribute, also display on Masjid notice boards.
For further information and references please use our website or contact us below:
www.khatmenubuwwat.org

KHATME NUBUWWAT ACADEMY
387 KATHERINE ROAD FOREST GATE
LONDON E7 8LT UNITED KINGDOM
PHONE: 020 8471 4434
MOBILE: 0798 486 4668, 0795 803 3404
EMAIL: khatmenubuwwat@hotmail.com

By force against and resistance the popularity automatically accord if you leave them their on fitna the fitna will die it self automatically but you guys not let them even you guys already stop them to go in Masjjid Harram which is most dangerous then kill some one its in Quran.

[amehoubFomo]

Brother i cant understand what u have written if u dont mind please write it again.
Jazakallah

[LSDDSL]

The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

وإنه سيكون في أمتي ثلاثون كذابون كلهم يزعم أنه نبي وأنا ‏ ‏خاتم ‏ ‏النبيين لا نبي بعدي

And verily, in my own Ummah, there will come thirty Liars, each of them will claim to be a prophet, but I am the Seal of the Prophets, there is no prophet after me." (Sunan Tirmidhi & Sunan Abi Dawud)

These thirty false prophets include the likes of Ibn Sayyad, Musailma, Aswat Ansi, "Bahaullah" of Iran, Rashad Khalifah, Elijah Muhammad...and the most notorious of them all, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani. All of them claim to be prophets.

Mirza believed himself to be God!

"I saw in one of my visions that I myself am God and I believed that I am Him." (Roohani Khazain Vol. 3, P. 103)

Mirza urinate up to 100 times a day!

"I urinate fifteen to twenty times daily, and sometimes I urinate one hundred times per day. Due to sugar in urine, I also get infection in urine and due to excessive urination I become very weak." (Roohani Khazain Vol. 19, P. 434-435)

Agonizing death of Mirza

"Huzoor [Mirza] could not talk two hours before death. Dr Mirza Yaqub Beg and Dr Syed Muhammad Hussain Shah were the treating physicians. Huzoor asked for paper and wrote on it: "I have too much dryness. I can't talk." and some other words he scribbled which could not be read. (Akhbar Al Fazl Qadiyan Vol. 25, No. 274, 24 November 1937)

Mirza death from cholera

"When I reached Hazrat saheb [Mirza] and saw his condition, then he addressed me and said: 'Mir saheb, I have developed epidemic cholera.' I think after that he did not say anything clear until he died next day at 10 am." (Hayat-i-Nasir, P. 14)

Mirza died with severe diarrhea, died in his own feces:

At night he passed loose excrements and was gripped with extreme weakness. Mother was woken up. By the time she got up, his condition was extremely weak. Mother worrisomely asked what had happened to him? He replied “same thing that I used to tell you” (that is the ailment of death). He passed another loose excrements and the weakness worsened. He asked for Maulvi Nooruddin sahib (Maulvi Nooruddin, as has been said above, was a reputable physician). Then he asked for Mahmood (the writer of these lines) and Mir sahib (his father in law) to be woken up. My bed was only a little distance from his, and when I woke up I saw him to be in a state of immense ailment. The doctors came and started medication but that didn't improve his state. At last some medication was given via injection after which he went into sleep. When it was morning, he woke up to say his prayers. His throat was so weak that when he tried to speak no words came out. At this he asked for pen but couldn't write either and the pen fell from his hand. After this he lied down and in a little while he was overcome by unconsciousness and around 10:30 in the morning his soul appeared before that True Emperor." (Siratul Mahdi of Mirza Mahmud Ahmad Qadiyani)

[amehoubFomo]

jazakallah

[amehoubFomo]

Assalamalaykum
i would advise all of us to keep us notified of any qadiyani activities so we could counter them inshallah and be aware of their plans to lay siege to the seal of prophethood
Please write in this thread

[quack!]

The latest plot of "Qadianis" is that they confron the Muslims with the verses of the Holy Quran. When we go to our ulama, even they are not able to reply satisfactorily. For example, a qadiani said to me that as per the verse 16:20,21 all those who are called beside Allah are dead and it is well known that Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah. It means that he is also dead. When I went to Imam of our mosque he was unable to respond. Can any scholar at this forum help me to solve this problem?

[maxuilg]

The latest plot of "Qadianis" is that they confron the Muslims with the verses of the Holy Quran. When we go to our ulama, even they are not able to reply satisfactorily. For example, a qadiani said to me that as per the verse 16:20,21 all those who are called beside Allah are dead and it is well known that Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah. It means that he is also dead. When I went to Imam of our mosque he was unable to respond. Can any scholar at this forum help me to solve this problem?

Dead here i think is not to be taken in literal sense rather it has a meaphorical meaning that whomsoever people call upon besides Allah are dead ( meaning of no use , they have no power and authority over anything ) it is Allah swt who has power over eveything alone . and no one is his partner.

bros and sis i have made a mistake in give meaning to the Quranic ayat mentioned pls forgive me and correct me

[amehoubFomo]

The latest plot of "Qadianis" is that they confron the Muslims with the verses of the Holy Quran. When we go to our ulama, even they are not able to reply satisfactorily. For example, a qadiani said to me that as per the verse 16:20,21 all those who are called beside Allah are dead and it is well known that Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah. It means that he is also dead. When I went to Imam of our mosque he was unable to respond. Can any scholar at this forum help me to solve this problem?

First of all you are correct that they confront people with the verses of the Quran, and they deceive people using this technique. You have to trap him with a lot of questions and you will start to hear rubbish spew out of his mouth as he will begin to contradict himself. Please do not let him go free as he will go and confuse our brothers and sisters that are less aware of deen.

The verse is the following:
20.Those whom they (al-mushrikun) invoke besides Allah have not created anything, but they are themselves created.
21.(They are) dead, not alive; and they know not when they will be raised up.

1-This verse is not made for the interpretation he used if he contacted tafseers and mufasirs he would have knew that. If we all do what he did we could take out interpretations to prove any point we wished.
2-For arguments sake AT this moment shaytan is alive people are directly worshipping him.
In Musas (as) time people worshipped pirhoan he was alive at that time
If we do research maybe there might be some people who still worship other people WHILST LIVING
3-there is already a verse that states Isa(AS)is alive Why use another verse of Quran to refute the verse that is already there in the quraan?

Ask him on his belief about Isa (Alayhiwasalam) (ASK HIM THE QUESTION AND MAKE SURE HE STATES HIS ACTUAL BELIEF THEN BEGIN TO TACKLE HIM) ie
1.Does he believe that he died on the cross? Then what about Surat 4 v157/158 (see below)
2.Does he believe that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiyani was Isa(as); the same person that claimed to be a nabi, rasool, Muhammad (sallahualayhiwasalam) himself, Maryam, then became pregnant with Isa(naozubillah) and then he himself was Isa. He went on to call himself god as well as other things
3.Or does he believe that he migrated to Kashmir and died?
if it is no 2 and 3 then why is he using this verse as he believed that Isa (as) was alive at some point?

Ask that person does he deny the Surat 4 ayah 157/158?

157.And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the Messenger of Allah," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) ]:

158.But Allah raised him ['Iesa (Jesus)] up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All-Wise.

AN ALIM WHO IS IN THE FIELD OF KHATMENUBUWWAT WILL BE ABLE TO ANSWER SUCH QUESTIONS MORE CONCISELY IF U CONTACT ME I WILL PUT U TROUGH AN ALIM(INSHALLAH)
which city do u live in?

[quack!]

Thank you for your reply but it confused me. The point he was trying to make is that all those who are called beside Allah are dead and as Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah then he is certainly dead. Other questions you raised do not relate directly to the topic. I think it is better if you direct me to an Alim. I live in Toronto, Canada.

[amehoubFomo]

I will find out for you inshallah but give me some time as i live in Birmingham England.
When he says that all those that r called besides Allah are dead then it is not proved by this ayah as Pharaoh was alive when the people worship him (a mufasir who is expert in quraan and its science will be able to prove this to you). Second how can u use this ayah 2 prove that Isa (as) is dead when their is already an ayah stating that he is alive (4:157/158). The problem is that this "dead" business is a red herring. That is why i posed those questions. i am in rush now so i will finish my post later inshallah

[drycleden]

السلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى وبركاته

The latest plot of "Qadianis" is that they confron the Muslims with the verses of the Holy Quran. When we go to our ulama, even they are not able to reply satisfactorily. For example, a qadiani said to me that as per the verse 16:20,21 all those who are called beside Allah are dead and it is well known that Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah. It means that he is also dead. When I went to Imam of our mosque he was unable to respond. Can any scholar at this forum help me to solve this problem?

Insha-Allah you don't need a scholar to refute such silly people. Let's see the aayaat you referred to:

وَالَّذِينَ يَدْعُونَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ لَا يَخْلُقُونَ شَيْئًا وَهُمْ يُخْلَقُونَ (20) أَمْوَاتٌ غَيْرُ أَحْيَاءٍ ۖ وَمَا يَشْعُرُونَ أَيَّانَ يُبْعَثُونَ

The translation from K&H is:

16:20. Those whom they (Al-Mushrikun ) invoke besides Allah have not created anything, but are themselves created.
16: 21. (They are) dead, not alive; and they know not when they will be raised up.

Now what does Allah - tabaraka wata'aala - report about 'Eesa in 3:49?

وَرَسُولًا إِلَىٰ بَنِي إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنِّي قَدْ جِئْتُكُم بِآيَةٍ مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ ۖ أَنِّي أَخْلُقُ لَكُم مِّنَ الطِّينِ كَهَيْئَةِ الطَّيْرِ فَأَنفُخُ فِيهِ فَيَكُونُ طَيْرًا بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُبْرِئُ الْأَكْمَهَ وَالْأَبْرَصَ وَأُحْيِي الْمَوْتَىٰ بِإِذْنِ اللَّهِ ۖ وَأُنَبِّئُكُم بِمَا تَأْكُلُونَ وَمَا تَدَّخِرُونَ فِي بُيُوتِكُمْ ۚ إِنَّ فِي ذَ*ٰلِكَ لَآيَةً لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

The K&H translation is:

3:49 And will make him [('Îsa (Jesus)] a Messenger to the Children of Israel (saying): "I have come to you with a sign from your Lord, that I design {Akhluq, create} for you out of clay, a figure like that of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah's Leave; and I heal him who was born blind, and the leper, and I bring the dead to life by Allah's Leave. And I inform you of what you eat, and what you store in your houses. Surely, therein is a sign for you, if you believe.

So according to the "game" you are challenged with, 16:20-21 does not apply to 'Eesa, because the ayaat in 16:20-21 talk about idols, or for the sake of argument it talks about things or personalities that do not create anything. However, the Quran in 3:49 mentions that 'Eesa created birds from clay, and those figures would become real and fly. And so the reply is that the ayaat 16:20-21 do not apply to the Messenger 'Eesa.

There is more to it, but I think you might confuse the Ahmadi if you go further.

والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله تعالى وبركاته
Abdalla S. Alothman

[amehoubFomo]

Thank you for your reply but it confused me. The point he was trying to make is that all those who are called beside Allah are dead and as Hadhrat Isa (pbuh) is also called beside Allah then he is certainly dead. Other questions you raised do not relate directly to the topic. I think it is better if you direct me to an Alim. I live in Toronto, Canada.

assalamalaykum
dear brother
if you can afford to call the uk then i advise u to visit this website(www.khatmenubuwwat.org). Their contact details r on there, also videos, booklets and so on is available for download on the website.
Brother keep in touch on any contact or info you gain on these qadiyanis.
R u of canadian descent or r u from a different country if so what languages do u speak?
If u cant get hold of of them please let me know also if i do find a scholor near u i will let u know inshallah

[amehoubFomo]

www.khatmenubuwwat.org

[amehoubFomo]

PLEASE BOYCOTT THE FOLLOWING QADIYANI PRODUCTS TO DEFEND THE HONOUR OF RASOOLULLAH (SALLALLAHUALAYHIWASALAM):
1.SHEZAN (JUICES, FROZEN FOODS ECT.)
2.WHITE PEARL RICE

inform others trough any means such as text messages
NOTE:These products are owned by QADIYANIS and directly help them in their zulm on the finality of prophet hood so it is obligatory on us Muslims to boycott these products.