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[art_fan_12]

Jazak Allah, good thread. Masjids here in the USA who are following the Fiqh Council of NA/ISNA will have Ramadan 1 on August 1 (my masjid included, unfortunately). We'll see what the sighting organizations in California, Chicago, and Toronto say; I'll post that stuff here for US users. (Hope this thread wasn't just for UK sighting?)

[ffdfriendforurr]

Jazaakallah khair

[creewespock]

Assalamu alaikum,

Is there any material I can read or watch to understand this moon sighting curves???

[FallJimerks]

Assalamu alaikum,

Is there any material I can read or watch to understand this moon sighting curves???

Read " BARKAT-E-RAMZAAN" translation of Bayaans of Hazrat Maulana Peer Zulfiqar Sahab by Mufti Inam Ul Haq

The first chapter of the book deals extensively on the Moon Sightings which includes

1) What is the Astronomical New Moon? ( Which means NO MOON can be sighted on this day
2) What is the Crescent Moon? ( = the Hilaal Moon that is the second day of the New Moon )
3) How the Maulana Zulfiqar Sahab met the Senior Officials of the Saudi Government and they accepted that their tradition of declaring the start and end of the Ramzaan on the Friday following the 15th Shabaan is COMPLETLY ABSURB !!!!
4) How the Haz, Maulana Zulfiqaar sb. met the Space Officials- USA and Senior Navy officials of US Marines who accepted that their method of predicting the MOON contains a whooping 6000 'Variables'and 'Constants'!!!
In short it and an complete In and out book regarding Moon sighting.

Jazalkalla0

[n2Oddw8P]

I don’t know what Shaykh Zulfiqar (HA) has written and how old it is but you don’t need NASA and Senior Military officials to accurately predict the birth of new moon and neither do you need 6000 variables and constants.

I do agree that the Saudi system of moonsighting is absurd but its changing rapidly.




The colours and their explaination underneath explain the sighting and the curves.

Does that mean that the Hijri dates on awqaf calender can be wrong ? My friend told me The start of month has been exactly as in the awqaf calender.
The whole gulf follows saudi !!!

[Hixinfineedom]

My heart bleeds as these issues are discussed. May Allah grant all proper hidayat and undersanding to adopt the shariah correctly and upon the usool, and not whims and fancies. Ameen.

Does that mean that the Hijri dates on awqaf calender can be wrong ? My friend told me The start of month has been exactly as in the awqaf calender.
The whole gulf follows saudi !!!

[n2Oddw8P]

brother afriki_haqq,
did i say something wrong? sorry to hurt you... Just wanted to know....

[Hixinfineedom]

Maaf no brother you didnt hurt me. I was just stating generally that on the moon issue alot of differences exist which has led to alot of bad blood. Allah save us all.

brother afriki_haqq,
did i say something wrong? sorry to hurt you... Just wanted to know....

[Hixinfineedom]

wr wb Colonel Saheb

From the graphs:
Saudia and UK will have 1st Ramadaan on 1 August. Is this correct?

What are the chances that Saudia will have it on 31 August? What do the hijri calenders reflect?

I don’t know what Shaykh Zulfiqar (HA) has written and how old it is but you don’t need NASA and Senior Military officials to accurately predict the birth of new moon and neither do you need 6000 variables and constants.

I do agree that the Saudi system of moonsighting is absurd but its changing rapidly.




The colours and their explaination underneath explain the sighting and the curves.

[CULTDIAMONDS]

Saudi Ummul-Qura Calender clearly shows start of Ramadhan on the 01st of August and it is likely that moon will be sighted in South Africa so it is possible that Europe (& UK) will Insha'Allah start Ramadhan on Moday the 1st of August 2011.

Allah (SWT) knows best.

Why is not Morocco followed instead of South Africa. For the beginning of Sha'baan they trusted Morocco, so why not for the beginning of Ramadan. We follow the closest country right

However we have received news of actual sighting (Muhaqaq Ru’ayat e Basri) from Kingdom of Morocco, Ministry of Waqaf and Islamic Affairs in writing. We therefore Had 29 days of Rajab and the Month of Sha’ban 1432 will commence from Sunday 3rd July 2011 Insha Allah.

http://www.wifaqululama.co.uk/home/71-news1.html

[Bridgester]

Note: this will all change depending on when Suaid does first tarawee. Guaranteed. Even though br hardstone has raised some valid and accurate points.

[Noxassope]

Assalamu alaykum

Inshaa Allah here in India we will have taraweeh on 1st August and 1st of Ramadhan on 2nd August.

[zzarratusstra]

Moon-sighting unlikely today ----- http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article480044.ece

By MD HUMAIDAN | ARAB NEWS
Published: Jul 29, 2011 23:07 Updated: Jul 29, 2011 23:07

JEDDAH: Observatories in a number of Islamic countries were unanimous in their claims that the crescent indicating the beginning of Ramadan will not be sighted on Saturday night, meaning the first day of Ramadan will most likely be Monday.

This time of year all Muslims everywhere will be busy looking at the skies to the crescent which signals the beginning of the ninth month of the Islamic calendar.

Deputy chairman of the astronomical society in Saudi Arabia Sharaf Al-Sufyani said the society would organize a moon-sighting function under the Supreme Court, which asked all residents to look for the crescent Saturday evening. The court is the specialized organ that will decide when fasting should start.

He said the sighting will be done in Al-Hada, Taif, and he welcomed all those who have telescopes or binoculars to attend.

Al-Sufyani said it would be extremely difficult to sight the moon on Saturday evening.

The Bahrain Astronomical Society expressed the same view. It said in a statement that moon-watchers would not be able to see the crescent. The society said the crescent would clearly be seen on Sunday evening and therefore Ramadan would start on Monday when it would stay for about half an hour after sunset.

The European Council for Ifta and Research in Dublin said Monday would be the first day of Ramadan. It said the crescent would be clearly sighted Sunday evening in large areas in North Africa, the Arabian Peninsula and North America.

The Calendar Home in Qatar expressed the same view.

Source: http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article480044.ece

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Profit From Ramadhan Book:
http://www.haqislam.org/ramadan/Prof...Ramadh%E3n.pdf

Short Lectures In Urdu And English About Ramadhan:
http://idauk.org/dawah/value_ramadhan.html

Article : A MUST READ :
http://www.alhuda-academy.org.uk/ramadhan.pdf

Do You Know What Breaks The Fast? Do You Realise You May Have Broken Your Fast?
http://www.idauk.org/publications/leaflet02.html

Zakaat | Pillar In Islam | Very Important | Not To Neglect | Wajib | Obligatory - http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/show...ory&highlight=

[Coededgeme]

Assalaamu 'alaykum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh,

Official Decision and Announcement of the High Judiciary Council of Saudi Arabia...

Just a short time ago, Fatwa-Online was informed of the official decision and announcement of the High Judiciary Council of Saudi Arabia that since the moon of Ramadhaan was not sighted this evening, here in Saudi Arabia, we shall be completing thirty (30) days of Sha'baan (1432 A.H.), in accordance with the hadeeth of the Messenger of Allaah (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam):

((Fast when you see the crescent. If it is obscured to you, then complete thirty days of Sha'baan. And break your fast when you see the crescent. If it is obscured to you then fast thirty days)), [transmitted by al-Bukhaaree and Muslim].

Subsequently, we shall be starting our taraaweeh prayers tomorrow (Sunday 31 July 2011) after the 'Ishaa. prayer, in preparation for the first fast of Ramadhaan on Monday 1 August 2011, inshaa.-Allaah.

http://*****************/news/0110730.htm

[www.forumsovetov.ru]

The info supplied to me was incorrect. First of Ramadhaan in Australia is Monday Aug 1

[Bridgester]

Salam

fatwa online has just announced that Saudi will be starting Ramdhan on Monday August 1 as moon was not spotted

www.*****************/news/0110730.htm

[squicscor]

It seems that the moon has already been sighted in New Zealand; anyone having contacts with scholars there to confirm it?

http://www.fianz.co.nz/notices/ram14...rt_content.php

[alenbarbaf]

Moon sighted in South India. Ramadan Mubarak.

[Staillateno]

It seems that the moon has already been sighted in New Zealand; anyone having contacts with scholars there to confirm it?

http://www.fianz.co.nz/notices/ram14...rt_content.php

Not too sure wrt 'Middle Earth' but below is for Australia..

Sunday, 31 July 2011:

Australia:

Not Seen: Engr Manzoor A Mian (MCW member) from Melbourne, VIC reported: Just to inform you that Ramadan Crescent has not been sighted today 31/7/11 Sunday so far in Sydeny, Brisban, Melbourne, Hobert Australian cities, We are still waiting Darwan and Perth results which will be availabe IA in 2.5 hr. Hence Ramadan is not yet announed in Australia according to moonsighting.

Not Seen: Zahid Hafeez (MCW member) from Adelaide, ACT reported: The hilal for Ramadan was not sighted in Adelaide (AU) on Sunday evening, July 31 for two reasons: there was over 50% cloud cover at the horizon and the moon was only 13 hours old, which is too young to be sighted with the naked eye. An attempt was made with binoculars from Mt. Lofty from sunset time to moonset but without success.

Not Seen: Habeeb Mohamed-Hussain (MCW member) from Gold Coast, QL reported: On July 31, a group of six people went to sight the moon at Mount Tamborine Gold Coast. East Coast, Australia. It was clear sky. Not sighted in Gold Coast, Brisbane. The moon was about 8 deg above the horizon while sun was one deg above the horizon as per sun n moon I phone application. It is confirmed that moon was not seen anywhere in Australia and fasting will starts Tuesday the 2nd August 2011.

Not Seen: Dr. Shabbir Ahmed (MCW member) Imam of Rooty Hill Mosque Sydney, NSW reported: The Hilaal of Ramadaan 1432 has not been sighted anywhere in Australia. Therefore, the Hilaal Committee and Majlisul Ulamaa’ of Australia have declared that the month of Ramadaan 1432 will start from Tuesday 2nd of August 2011.

im pretty sure the Al Ghazzali Centre there also reported negative... (i saw it in my ICOP memebrs email but cant find it now, i probs deleted it )

..and Allah knows best