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Old 07-10-2011, 11:31 PM   #1
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Default u want to leave All sins!??! try this :
Hazrat Thanwi (RA) was once asked, “How can one give up sin?” Hazrat Thanwi (RA) replied, “There is nothing that cause a person to leave sin except a person’s own willpower, i.e. one’s own himmah.”

Hence, it is imperative that we leave sin as soon as we can.” it really works, u just to be confident in urself and use ur own power and be like IM NOT GOING TO SIN AND USE UR POWER , it helps......... btw: i like tj just the saathis r a lil pushy but i like the work of course, if u dont like it then u dont like islam obvious
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:18 AM   #2
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As-Salaamu alaykum

There's a real nice prescription by Hazrat Maulana Yunus Patel Saheb (RA). You can read it from the Hazrat's website : yunuspatel.co.za - entitled 'Giving up sins - an easy prescription.'
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Old 07-27-2011, 01:44 AM   #3
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And when you got successful in it then......
, at that very second, make a du'a to Allah. Allah will accept your du'a at that very moment Inshallah
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:56 AM   #4
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Hazrat Thanwi (RA) was once asked, “How can one give up sin?” Hazrat Thanwi (RA) replied, “There is nothing that cause a person to leave sin except a person’s own willpower, i.e. one’s own himmah.”

Hence, it is imperative that we leave sin as soon as we can.” it really works, u just to be confident in urself and use ur own power and be like IM NOT GOING TO SIN AND USE UR POWER , it helps......... btw: i like tj just the saathis r a lil pushy but i like the work of course, if u dont like it then u dont like islam obvious
wrwb, for this.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:12 AM   #5
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how can you acquire more himmah when you are low???
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Old 07-27-2011, 12:42 PM   #6
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And when you got successful in it then......
, at that very second, make a du'a to Allah. Allah will accept your du'a at that very moment Inshallah

Ooooh!
Wassalam

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how can you acquire more himmah when you are low??? You are describing a non-voluntary situation, right?
The trick is to use your himmah when you can do so voluntarily.
Wassalam
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:43 PM   #7
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himmah is non voluntary....others possess more than some
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Old 07-27-2011, 02:56 PM   #8
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himmah is non voluntary....others possess more than some

There is a decidedly voluntary part to it brother. (I do not know whether it is completely voluntary or not and of course its levels keep varying.)
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Old 07-27-2011, 03:03 PM   #9
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how can you acquire more himmah when you are low???
bandah himmat karey phir deykey key Allah swt kaysa nusrat karta hai.

The servant first take the courage and then see how Allah swt helps him.

Agar himmat kamzour ho to ahlullah ki sohbat ikhtiyaar karey, aur agar ahlullah ki sohbat nahin mili to kam se kam rouz ana ahlullah key tazkirey parey, ahlullah key malfuzaat parey. ye ahlullah ki sohbat ka badla hai.

If the servant feels he is lacking in courage then he should sit in the company of the pious people of Allah swt, and if he does not even have this available to him then at the least he should daily read about the lives of the pious people of Allah swt or read the discourses of the pious people of Allah swt and insha'Allah he will acquire the needed courage to implement deen.
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Old 07-27-2011, 04:26 PM   #10
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There is a decidedly voluntary part to it brother. (I do not know whether it is completely voluntary or not and of course its levels keep varying.)
Wassalam
but at the end of the day Allah SWT decides who has more himmah and who doesnt. thats why He created and chose the sahabah for rasulullah SAW.....He created them to have more himmah......so in the end.....it all depends on whether or not Allah SWT has given you tawfiq to have the necessary himmah to overcome sin....correct?

So it would be fruitless to say I'm leaving sin due to my own will power as OP indicated.

Note: I want to be clear that my objection above is not with Hazrat Thanwi's statement RA. Hazrat Thanwi simply said that one's himmah is necessary to leave sin. There is nothing in that statement that indicates a human being is in full control of his willpower and can increase or decrease it by will.
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Old 07-27-2011, 04:43 PM   #11
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It is narrated that, Rasulallah is reported to have said,

"Tests are shown to the hearts like a straw mat, straw by straw.
Whichever heart accepts them, and absorbs them, gets a black spot placed on it, and
whichever heart rejects them, gets a white, clear spot on it.
This goes on until the hearts are of two types:
a heart which is white, smooth, and clear like a polished stone which will not be harmed by further trials or tests for as long as the heavens and the earth last, and
another dark and blemished; it is like a hook turned over the wrong way on which nothing can be hung - it neither acknowledges what is right nor rejects what is wrong, except for that which happens to coincide with its lusts and inclinations with which this heart has become fully absorbed."


[Sahih Jami As-saghir hadith No: 2960]
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:55 PM   #12
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but at the end of the day Allah SWT decides who has more himmah and who doesnt. thats why He created and chose the sahabah for rasulullah SAW.....He created them to have more himmah......so in the end.....it all depends on whether or not Allah SWT has given you tawfiq to have the necessary himmah to overcome sin....correct?

So it would be fruitless to say I'm leaving sin due to my own will power as OP indicated.

Note: I want to be clear that my objection above is not with Hazrat Thanwi's statement RA. Hazrat Thanwi simply said that one's himmah is necessary to leave sin. There is nothing in that statement that indicates a human being is in full control of his willpower and can increase or decrease it by will.

In another saying Hazrat Thanwi (RA) said after all these years I realize that if I was able to give up any thing it was merely by Mercy of Allah (SWT) and not because of my own efforts.

Does it make the things clearer?

Also spend sometime with the translation of last three verses of Surah Takweer. It should start falling in place.

I have post some where based on an article from Nadwa where it says that sins are difficult to give up because it is natures' way of crushing our pride.

Wassalam

Edit : Object : Crushing Pride
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Old 07-27-2011, 08:01 PM   #13
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It is narrated that, Rasulallah is reported to have said,

"Tests are shown to the hearts like a straw mat, straw by straw.
Whichever heart accepts them, and absorbs them, gets a black spot placed on it, and
whichever heart rejects them, gets a white, clear spot on it.
This goes on until the hearts are of two types:
a heart which is white, smooth, and clear like a polished stone which will not be harmed by further trials or tests for as long as the heavens and the earth last, and
another dark and blemished; it is like a hook turned over the wrong way on which nothing can be hung - it neither acknowledges what is right nor rejects what is wrong, except for that which happens to coincide with its lusts and inclinations with which this heart has become fully absorbed."


[Sahih Jami As-saghir hadith No: 2960]
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:26 PM   #14
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In another saying Hazrat Thanwi (RA) said after all these years I realize that if I was able to give up any thing it was merely by Mercy of Allah (SWT) and not because of my own efforts.

Does it make the things clearer?

Also spend sometime with the translation of last three verses of Surah Takweer. It should start falling in place.

I have post some where based on an article from Nadwa where it says that sins are difficult to give up because it is natures' way of crushing our pride.

Wassalam

Edit : Object : Crushing Pride
So himmah doesn't matter. Ones willpower is not enough to avoid sin.
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:50 PM   #15
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So himmah doesn't matter. Ones willpower is not enough to avoid sin.


But trying does matter. If we change our hearts and if we are sincere then Allah will help us .

"Verily never will Allah change a condition of a people until they change what is within their souls"
[Ra'd 13:11]
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Old 07-27-2011, 10:57 PM   #16
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So himmah doesn't matter. Ones willpower is not enough to avoid sin.

(In the present context two of them are synonymous himmah and will power.)
The first statement is wrong. It is necessary but not sufficient. So dear brother put all the courage at your disposal to avoid sins. Then make dua-Ya Allah this was within my capacity and so I have done this effort to give up this sin and now I am supplicating to you to accept it and purify me from this ignominy-purify me by your Mercy.
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:23 PM   #17
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make dua to Allah (SWT) sincerely before you do something. then do it. it will be done in sha Allah. if its not done, keep trying. the best way to avoid sins is to
a) make dua to Allah (SWT) to help you
b) remember he is Al - Samee, Al - Baseer. He Hears all, He Sees All. keep reminding yourself. soon you will feel you are under a spotlight.
c) repent immediately when you sin.
in sha Allah this will help
some brothers might know adhkaar too that might help, so that can also be added to a)
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Old 07-27-2011, 11:26 PM   #18
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But trying does matter. If we change our hearts and if we are sincere then Allah will help us .

"Verily never will Allah change a condition of a people until they change what is within their souls"
[Ra'd 13:11]

people often mix up the order. they dont do anything themselves and hope Allah (SWT) will will change their condition. Not that He can't. But there is no compulsion from Allah (SWT) as stated many times in the Qur'an. once you try and change yourself (make the effort) and hope in Allah (SWT), then see how easy things become.
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Old 07-28-2011, 12:03 AM   #19
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I have post some where based on an article from Nadwa where it says that sins are difficult to give up because it is natures' way of crushing our pride.

Wassalam

Edit : Object : Crushing Pride
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اللهم اني اسألك من خشيتك ما تحول به بيني و بين معصيتك

Allaahumma innee as'aluka min khashyatika maa tahoolu bihee baynee wa bayna ma`siyatik

O Allah I ask You of (such) fear of you that will put an obstruction between me and Your disobedience
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Old 07-28-2011, 10:04 AM   #20
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But trying does matter. If we change our hearts and if we are sincere then Allah will help us .

"Verily never will Allah change a condition of a people until they change what is within their souls"
[Ra'd 13:11]
Only Allah can change hearts we are powerless to do so. Right?
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