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Old 06-19-2011, 07:18 AM   #21
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I can't get this: this and the Khat used in Somalia and Yemen.

Why are there scholars condoning its use if we all agree they are drugs? Nay, they themselves make use of it..
In Ibn Battuta's "Rihla" there is constant mentioning of its use all across his travels in the Sub-Continent and nearby countries, without (if I remember correctly) a word of condemnation.

And Marjuana then? If a consistent number of Jamaican brothers who have accepted Islam kept making use of Marjuana under the excuse of it being part of theri "cultural tradition" (as I understand is Pan and would we be ready to condone them their use? If not, what's the difference?

P.S.: I didn't even ever tried Marjuana so I don't have any personal interest in the discussion; and mine are genuine questions, I hope someone can clarify for me.

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Old 06-19-2011, 08:39 AM   #22
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Does all 'paan' contain tobacco? What does it usually contain (please list all ingredients in English)?
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:50 AM   #23
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Paan isnt that much worst level like marijuana.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:54 AM   #24
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Paan isnt that much worst level like marijuana.
Marijuana has many medicinal qualuties, whilst I don't think paan has...if I am not mistaken
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:02 AM   #25
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Marijuana has many medicinal qualuties, whilst I don't think paan has...if I am not mistaken
so paan = -1(for being bad and having no good in it)

Marijuana for being Bad -3 and for haivn medical qualities+1 = -2
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:29 AM   #26
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My granny used to chew that paan (we call it "sirih") but it was going out of fashion even in her time, cuz i never saw other grannies chewing it. You guys still chewing it like a granny?
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #27
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My granny used to chew that paan (we call it "sirih") but it was going out of fashion even in her time, cuz i never saw other grannies chewing it. You guys still chewing it like a granny?


Same here with my granny and this was like 17 years ago ..... We had a paan tree in my grannys yard and we use to chew it at times for fun. It was awful though,and I never knew what the big deal about chewing it was, aside from all the old people having yellow teeth and bright red lips . lol

The paan leaf itself is not harmful but when tobacco and the other stuff is added to it it can seriously damage your health. It can cause oral cancers of the lip, tongue, mouth and pharynx and nicotine addiction.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:18 AM   #28
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I can't get this: this and the Khat used in Somalia and Yemen.

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Qaat does not intoxicate. It is a stimulant, not an intoxicant.

Try some if you don't believe me (as I already have).
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:20 AM   #29
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Same here with my granny and this was like 17 years ago ..... We had a paan tree in my grannys yard and we use to chew it at times for fun. It was awful though,and I never knew what the big deal about chewing it was, aside from all the old people having yellow teeth and bright red lips . lol

The paan leaf itself is not harmful but when tobacco and the other stuff is added to it it can seriously damage your health. It can cause oral cancers of the lip, tongue, mouth and pharynx and nicotine addiction.
i remeber my moms granny used to have a box fulled with paan stuff and we had a tree in our house of chaliyya i think one day while she was out i ate something called chunna(?) and the all day vomiting bad day!!
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:22 AM   #30
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I have seen many Ulema chewing paan.
I like sweet paan

Howz it!

Once there was a lecture of Hazrath Mufti Nawal-ur-rahmaan Sahab so there was some qiraat, naat was going. Mufti Sahab was preparing paan and and asked my friend(who was sitting besides him and taking care of his bag) about paan, he said no. If I would had been in his place, I should had asked him sweet paan. No matters if he has cheery in it or not
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:30 AM   #31
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My granny used to chew that paan (we call it "sirih") but it was going out of fashion even in her time, cuz i never saw other grannies chewing it. You guys still chewing it like a granny?
Your granny? It was my moyang who did that. Allah bless her soul (and she died in 1988).



*Moyang = great grandma
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:46 PM   #32
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Your granny? It was my moyang who did that. Allah bless her soul (and she died in 1988).



*Moyang = great grandma
My granny lived to almost 90, died in 2004. Allahu yarhamaha... (is that correct?)
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:09 PM   #33
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Those who don't know what Paan is: Click here.

Have authentic scholars ever issued a verdict on paan? Does it's ruling (mubah, makruh or haram) depend on the use of tobaco? Is it true, that an Indian king after witnessing the miracle of the moon-splitting, sent 3 gifts to Rasulullah and one of them was paan?

Any useful information would be appreciated.

The status of Pan is exalted.
I had a meetha, Puna masala Pan yesterday. Please don't tell me that it is haram.
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:13 PM   #34
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Dont worry brother! Paan is permissible as long its not harmful to one's health-Mufti Ebrahim desai
So make sure u dont eat the tobacco ones..n about the one u said above, i have no idea!!
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Old 06-19-2011, 03:24 PM   #35
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AoA
my one of the classmate at break time she open the bored marker ink bottle and was smelling instead of eating the launch so on the third day we complain this to our teacher and before every break teacher use to investigate ink bottle around her and the girl was dizzy in all periods
and some people are also addicted to smell petrol smell
may ALLAH protect us from these things..ameen
Even this little cheap correction fluid (Whitener) is used as drug and is very highly addictive........

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Old 06-19-2011, 03:33 PM   #36
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Very popular in schools n colleges!
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:10 PM   #37
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Some years ago I was gluing together a model aeroplane, because I was into models in those days. After a couple of hours the glue fumes made me quite sick. I don't understand how anyone could get addicted to that, it just gives me a headache.

Maybe it's just me. I use a fountain pen because ballpoint ink fumes make me sick after writing a few pages. I also can't stand the smell of certain types of attar.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:37 PM   #38
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Some years ago I was gluing together a model aeroplane, because I was into models in those days. After a couple of hours the glue fumes made me quite sick. I don't understand how anyone could get addicted to that, it just gives me a headache.

Maybe it's just me. I use a fountain pen because ballpoint ink fumes make me sick after writing a few pages. I also can't stand the smell of certain types of attar.
May be ur sense of smell is too sensitive!!
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:55 PM   #39
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The status of Pan is exalted.
I had a meetha, Puna masala Pan yesterday. Please don't tell me that it is haram.


ever been to hyderabad..? try the 'makai paan ' at Pan House .. they serve it cold.. melts in mouth like icecream.. u can also get that on brigade road, bangalore.. pricy at Rs 25 per paan.. the best sweet pan to date..

wa assalam..
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:00 PM   #40
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So paan, or at least the tobacco variety, is haram. Other than that, this thread has been four pages of absurdity

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