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Old 06-07-2011, 12:58 PM   #21
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The stern angelic guards on Noori Azkaar are called Alvi Moqileen! Incense is very beautiful thing, but if the zikr that the person is doing turns into Zakat e Amal, unintentionally, then whatever the moqileen of that Zikr are would definitely have a presence. Now, its not necessary that the person may be fulfilling the conditions of Zakat e Amal, because he won't even know it, so it may affect other creatures in negative way, like they may feel chains in their necks and being dragged to the one who is doing that Zikr, so if the conditions of that unintentional Amal aren't met, harm is certain. As far as plain simple recitals, and Azkaar are concerned, yes, its excellent. All the Noori Things like incense! By plain and simple Zikr I mean Salah, or one time plain recital of a Surah Mubarik. Pl note, its not necessary that the person would be always invoking on an Amal unintentionally, so the changes are rare! The rule is go plain and strait, unless you know what you are doing.
Salaam

I am interested in what you wrote, but i dont understand the following things you said below, so can you please explain more in detail since i would like to benefit from the subject matter that you know of?

"The stern angelic guards on Noori Azkaar are called Alvi Moqileen! Incense is very beautiful thing, but if the zikr that the person is doing turns into Zakat e Amal, unintentionally, then whatever the moqileen of that Zikr are would definitely have a presence."

and:

"Now, its not necessary that the person may be fulfilling the conditions of Zakat e Amal, because he won't even know it, so it may affect other creatures in negative way, like they may feel chains in their necks and being dragged to the one who is doing that Zikr, so if the conditions of that unintentional Amal aren't met, harm is certain."

and:

"Pl note, its not necessary that the person would be always invoking on an Amal unintentionally, so the changes are rare! The rule is go plain and strait, unless you know what you are doing."

Jazaakallaahukhayran

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Old 06-07-2011, 01:07 PM   #22
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oh god now before we light an agarbatti (incense) we have to look at qawaid e amaliyaat? come on yaaro its a bit much.
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Old 06-07-2011, 10:46 PM   #23
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oh god now before we light an agarbatti (incense) we have to look at qawaid e amaliyaat? come on yaaro its a bit much.
Right.. "Don't fix something that's not broken".
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:31 PM   #24
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W/Salam, I thought, I explained it well! Okay,

Zakat e Amal, is recitation of any Zikr for a number of times. Zakat e Amal means that you pay the Zakat of the recital, through which you achieve certain goals. Each and every alphabet of the Qur'an has a being of light attached to it, which is called a Mowaqil. Some Zahideen o Abideen or Amileen, pay this Zakat to get the Batini powers of a recital. This is a complete Science. The Zakat e Amal has its own conditions, which has to be met. The Mashaaikh of Batin, ie the Saints, who were Aarifeen, have unlocked this Science. There are two kinds of Amals, i) Jalaali Amal ii) Jamali Amal. These both have their own conditions. An Amal can be both of them at the same time. There are even some Halaal things that you may abstain from, because you have to stay extra pure eg Fruits on which there may have been some flies on it, or certain other things that have microscopic filth, which appear in the form of spots over it, or from breaking any branch of a tree with your hands, or anything that comes from animals......

Jamali Amals are less dangerous, Jalaali are more dangerous, however, if you have a competent Sheikh, you are likely to succeed....

What is your question relating to it?

Jazakallah!
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Old 06-08-2011, 08:50 PM   #25
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W/Salam, I thought, I explained it well! Okay,

Zakat e Amal, is recitation of any Zikr for a number of times. Zakat e Amal means that you pay the Zakat of the recital, through which you achieve certain goals. Each and every alphabet of the Qur'an has a being of light attached to it, which is called a Mowaqil. Some Zahideen o Abideen or Amileen, pay this Zakat to get the Batini powers of a recital. This is a complete Science. The Zakat e Amal has its own conditions, which has to be met. The Mashaaikh of Batin, ie the Saints, who were Aarifeen, have unlocked this Science. There are two kinds of Amals, i) Jalaali Amal ii) Jamali Amal. These both have their own conditions. An Amal can be both of them at the same time. There are even some Halaal things that you may abstain from, because you have to stay extra pure eg Fruits on which there may have been some flies on it, or certain other things that have microscopic filth, which appear in the form of spots over it, or from breaking any branch of a tree with your hands, or anything that comes from animals......

Jamali Amals are less dangerous, Jalaali are more dangerous, however, if you have a competent Sheikh, you are likely to succeed....

What is your question relating to it?

Jazakallah!


Is this true???? Can anyone knowledgeable comment on this.? Any proof of this in hadith or any examples from the classic Islamic scholars?

I seriously can't digest this, paying for good deeds , not eating fruits....!!! Is this even Islamic??

Allah knows best.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:03 PM   #26
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Is this true???? Can anyone knowledgeable comment on this.? Any proof of this in hadith or any examples from the classic Islamic scholars?

I seriously can't digest this, paying for good deeds , not eating fruits....!!! Is this even Islamic??

Allah knows best.
These conditions are only at the time of the Amal. If the Amal is for 21 days, then according to the type of the Amal, the conditions are met. It doesn't have anything unIslamic, and it isn't Fardh. Mashaaikh of Baatin have been doing this since long, eg Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jilani(ra) is the first Amil e Kamil of Dua e Saifi
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:18 PM   #27
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السلام عليكم

is there a burning Bakhoor machine that you connect the plug into the cord and then put some foil paper and on top of it the bakhoor and burn it ?

جزاكم الله خيرا احسنل جزاء
وعليكم السلام
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Old 06-09-2011, 12:08 AM   #28
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My mom used to use the stove.. course this was about 20 years ago.

Just thought to correct, it should be

احسن الجزاء‬
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