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Old 06-06-2011, 02:42 PM   #1
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Salaamualaykum to all my brothers and sisters in islam. InshAllah you are all in the best Iman and health. I would just like to share with you all what i have learned of a sister NEVER sleep between asr and mugreb dont even allow your young children to sleep between these times as it causes mental tensions. Salaaam
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Old 06-06-2011, 05:38 PM   #2
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wasalaam, I also heard that sleeping in those particular hour will weakens one's memory......
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:34 PM   #3
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yes it is true! i have read it in the book "prophetic medicine" by ibn qayim(r.a)!
and Allah knows best!
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:07 PM   #4
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yes ..Also better not to sleep between Fajr and Shurooq
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Old 06-06-2011, 10:55 PM   #5
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As-salamu ´alaykum,

There is a narration in Musnad Abu Ya'la that has been declared very weak by Al-Hafizh Ibn Hajar, where An-Nabiy (sallaLlahu ´alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam) is to have said: من نام بعد العصر فاختلس عقله فلا يلومن إلا نفسه
“Whoever sleeps after ´Asr, and his mind is taken, let him only blame himself.”

There is therefore no censoring those who sleep.
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Old 06-06-2011, 11:09 PM   #6
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As-salamu ´alaykum,

There is a narration in Musnad Abu Ya'la that has been declared very weak by Al-Hafizh Ibn Hajar, where An-Nabiy (sallaLlahu ´alayhi wa aalihi wa sallam) is to have said: من نام بعد العصر فاختلس عقله فلا يلومن إلا نفسه
“Whoever sleeps after ´Asr, and his mind is taken, let him only blame himself.”

There is therefore no censoring those who sleep.
Nice. Isha is here round 12 at night and Fajr at 3 in the morning. I'm fasting today and just got home from working all day. I would now like to take a nap untill maghreb..
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:31 AM   #7
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Practically seems to be true with me. I have been sleeping after asr for sometime now, and i am facing lot of mental tension now a days.
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:48 AM   #8
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salaam:

It is not fardh..i think it is sunnah so it is preferable not to sleep..if anyone is tired and want to take a nap i don't think there is any harm.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:35 AM   #9
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Basically, because of the Hadith(s) in question are regarded as very weak, or borderline fabrications by some scholars, it is a bit far-fetched to say that it is makruh to nap after ´Asr. One may choose not do do so out of caution, but one can not censor anyone else and claim that it's from Islam. Otherwise we open the doors to a lot of the Barelwi practices that the brothers and sisters on this forum frown upon... if we employ extremely weak or borderline fabrications..
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:06 AM   #10
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Basically, because of the Hadith(s) in question are regarded as very weak, or borderline fabrications by some scholars, it is a bit far-fetched to say that it is makruh to nap after ´Asr. One may choose not do do so out of caution, but one can not censor anyone else and claim that it's from Islam. Otherwise we open the doors to a lot of the Barelwi practices that the brothers and sisters on this forum frown upon... if we employ extremely weak or borderline fabrications..
i have read this hadith in a very authentic book so be very careful unless you are 100% sure that this hadith is false as you have made a statement that is calling this hadith 'far-fetched' that is a very bold statement as if i have read that this hadith is authentic, what position does it put you in if you are calling a statement of the prophet sallallaho alayhi wa salam 'far- fetched'. be careful with your actions in future.
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:56 AM   #11
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Asalam wr wb

It is also very bad to associate a weak hadith to the Prophet saws so it works both way's and when we enjoin an act on someone we should bring the proof to support us, otherwise we leave room for the shaytan to have a field day and make us doubt Rasulullah(saws)'s words or get into disputes etc.

From what I recall it is sunnah to sleep during midday which may mean after dhuhr anf before asr, so let's seek those time's to sleep:

Hadith(Sahih Bukhari) Volume 8, Book 74, Sahl bin Sad marrated:We used to have a midday nap and take our meals after the Jumua (prayer).

Hadith(Sahih Bukhari) Volume 8, Book 74, Number 298 Thumama Anas said, "Um Sulaim used to spread a leather sheet for the Prophet and he used to take a midday nap on that leather sheet at her home." Anas added, "When the Prophet had slept, she would take some of his sweat and hair and collect it (the sweat) in a bottle and then mix it with Suk (a kind of perfume) while he was still sleeping. "When the death of Anas bin Malik approached, he advised that some of that Suk be mixed with his Hanut (perfume for embalming the dead body), and it was mixed with his Hanut.

Also rumors can spread this way and lead to bid'ah etc.

InshaAllah someone who has seen this hadith with a muhaddith stating it's authenticity can show us all.
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:19 PM   #12
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Bismillah..
salaam:

Click the following link to know about the authenticity of the hadith (nap between asar and maghrib)......

http://www.*************/en/ref/21647

[www.islam -qa.com]


The above link reads as follows:

Is it makrooh to sleep after ‘Asr?


Praise be to Allaah.
It was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever sleeps after ‘Asr and loses his mind, let him blame no one but himself.”
This hadeeth was classed as 'da’eef' (weak) by Shaykh al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah, 39.

Shaykh al-Albaani said:

Marwaan [ibn Muhammad al-Asadi] said: “I said to Layth ibn Sa’d – when I saw him sleep after ‘Asr during the month of Ramadaan – ‘O Abu’l-Haarith! Why are you sleeping after ‘Asr when Ibn Lahee’ah has told us … (and he mentioned it)?’ Al-Layth said: ‘I do not give up something that is good for me because of the hadeeth of Ibn Lahee’ah from ‘Aqeel!’”

I say, I am impressed by this answer of al-Layth, because it is indicative of understanding and knowledge, and no wonder, for he was one of the imams of the Muslims and well known fuqahaa’. I know that many of the shaykhs today do not let themselves sleep after ‘Asr, even if they need to do that. If it is said to them that the hadeeth concerning that is da’eef, they will immediately respond by saying,
“Weak ahaadeeth should be followed with regard to virtuous actions.”

Think about the difference between the understanding of the salaf (earlier generation) and the knowledge of the later generations.

Al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah (hadeeth no. 39).



Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
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Old 06-07-2011, 04:16 PM   #13
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abdul12345,

I did not call the statement far-fetched, don't be so quick to jump the gun. Any statement which is authentically attributed to the Prophet (sallaLlahu ´alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) is Haqq and must be followed. However, it is far-fetched based on it being a highly doubtful Hadith. Al-Hafizh Ibn Hajar calling it extremely weak weighs a lot, as he is probably the biggest scholar of Hadith and its Sciences from the Muta'akhirin. And he was joined by Daraqutni and Dhahabi in the weakening of it, and this is also true based on the conditions of Al-Imam Al-Bukhari.

It being in this or that book is not a proof in itself, the rules of Hadith classification still apply. So on what basis do you call the narration authentic?
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Old 06-08-2011, 01:15 AM   #14
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abdul12345,

I did not call the statement far-fetched, don't be so quick to jump the gun. Any statement which is authentically attributed to the Prophet (sallaLlahu ´alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) is Haqq and must be followed. However, it is far-fetched based on it being a highly doubtful Hadith. Al-Hafizh Ibn Hajar calling it extremely weak weighs a lot, as he is probably the biggest scholar of Hadith and its Sciences from the Muta'akhirin. And he was joined by Daraqutni and Dhahabi in the weakening of it, and this is also true based on the conditions of Al-Imam Al-Bukhari.

It being in this or that book is not a proof in itself, the rules of Hadith classification still apply. So on what basis do you call the narration authentic?
btw , where do u live ? isha at 12 midnight and fajr at 3am ?:O
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Old 06-08-2011, 03:58 AM   #15
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btw , where do u live ? isha at 12 midnight and fajr at 3am ?:O
You talking to me? Cause I made that statement.

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